MadMoolah - DirtyDaisy.com - Page 5

SmokeyTbear · 2007-02-12, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerDave

NO, I don't get your point...

The only thing in question here is "permission".

I give plenty of places 'permsission' to use my name, trademark, copyrighted materials.

congrats and many se's use your site without your permission. google stopped being "opt-in" ages ago.

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Originally Posted by DangerDave

Your script takes all these things from a secondary source and uses them without permission...

if i have to explain what a search engine is one more time LOL

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Originally Posted by DangerDave

as I have said over and over again.. that is an infringement.

DD

If were you i would start a petition to make se's "opt-in" again..

Greenguy · 2007-02-12, 07:09 PM

Hi Tom

SmokeyTbear · 2007-02-12, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom

I'm not to fucking impressed by the shit that was done with OUR images...

"that shit" is what search engines do.. i apologize for the fact no courtesy link was given as that was my fault for giving him the incomplete template to test.

Im more than happy to work with you to make sure your content is kept private..

but lets be reaistic here

http://www.3xgals.com/miltontwins/004/DSC08299.jpg

when hotlinked reads ravenriley.com

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...ei=UTF-8&src=p

these kind of overlaps happen especially when testing a script.

fr0gman · 2007-02-12, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom

If thats the kind of shit backlinks im getting using MY FUCKING DOMAIN as an example 3xgals i dont want that kind of nasty shit traffic which by the way was going somewhere else...

And me being the owner of Raven Riley

I'm not to fucking impressed by the shit that was done with OUR images...

Tom,

Calm down. I know people that are reading this thread that use that very same technology to SEND traffic to Raven and Liz.

The weight swings both ways.

3xTom · 2007-02-12, 07:27 PM

dont get me wrong

sending traffic to raven using ravens pics are fine thats what we are supposed to be doing

sending traffic to someone else using ravens pictures is NOT alright

and by the way hi greenie

SmokeyTbear · 2007-02-12, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom

dont get me wrong

sending traffic to raven using ravens pics are fine thats what we are supposed to be doing

sending traffic to someone else using ravens pictures is NOT alright

and by the way hi greenie

would be more than happy to let your programmers peek at the script and see the "good" this does..

It has keyword matching for EXACTLY this purpose.. when it matches known copyright or site material it attempts to match up sponsors based on keywords , so this wouldn't happen in a "live" environment .

In an ideal setting when you searched for Whoringwives" no ads would be directly displayed but if "raven riley" was found it would display her banners and milton twins would show milton twins ads

SmokeyTbear · 2007-02-12, 07:34 PM

although looking at the test examples it appears quite juvenile and unplanned alot of planning went into this script

use my example page above and search for anything with "smokey" in the title and you will notice an "example" text displayed on the page at the bottom middle with ads ..

in the readme of the script outlines how to use the features .. in the cop first posted here this was straight from the box install , and hadnt been modified to include any names / sites

SmokeyTbear · 2007-02-12, 07:38 PM

using the test page above go there and search for raven riley or milton twins and you can see how it works.. certain html is inserted based on the keyword searched much like adwords..

in my example page has no "default" ads for if a match is not found, it only displays ads based on matched keywords.

fr0gman · 2007-02-12, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom

dont get me wrong

sending traffic to raven using ravens pics are fine thats what we are supposed to be doing

sending traffic to someone else using ravens pictures is NOT alright

and by the way hi greenie

Would it be ok with you if I placed a banner for a jaymancash site on a gallery featuring say... DirtyDaisy and then had that listed on Shemp? You would be getting clicked traffic from a page featuring someone's content other than Raven... and let's say that gallery was populated with free hosted content. Would that be okie dokie? I mean, it happens all the time and I have never seen anyone jumping through their butts about it.

What about getting traffic from a TGP that pulls content from other sponsors? Is that ok?

In my opinion program owners should tread very lightly on topic like this. You are already getting traffic from sweat off the backs of other programs and they are getting traffic off the sweat of yours... it is just how the interweb works.

If you don't like others getting traffic from your images indexed in Google or if you don't like getting traffic from the images of others I suggest that all sponsors stop hemorrhaging free content. In my opinion the waters are chummy enough as it is.

Let's just go back to text link directories linked to tour pages and see how happy you are. Why not? It worked in '95 before some idiot sponsor opened the flood gates and made free porn available to the world.

3xTom · 2007-02-12, 07:53 PM

would i be happy to get traffic from a page featuring another model?

no i wouldnt ....

lets ask ourselves why?

If you sent me traffic from a dirty daisy gallery to my site then the surfer gets there and joins thinking he might see dirty daisy photos well he wont therefore chargebacks are wayyyy higher.... and the surfer is then turned off because he joined from a page that had this other girl on it

lets ask the question here why in the world would you put a raven riley banner on a page for dirty daisy to begin with anyways? I mean if you want to promote raven riley why not use raven riley.....

JaceXXX · 2007-02-12, 08:03 PM

3xTom, I think you missed the entire part where this script was used for such a short time and never broadcast via links or advertised in any way, it is just a really good piece of software, so it got indexed, what you saw was a page that was a test page while someone was playing with the script, it getting indexed was something he didn't even know happened because he never even linked it up anywhere....

he never even linked it anywhere, so he probably didn't even think about using the robots.txt to block the se's from it

everyone is getting really bent out of shape over a script that is actually amazing when used right, but what everyone saw from the first post of this thread is the script being tested and learned, and then abandoned

fr0gman · 2007-02-12, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xTom

would i be happy to get traffic from a page featuring another model?

no i wouldnt ....

lets ask ourselves why?

If you sent me traffic from a dirty daisy gallery to my site then the surfer gets there and joins thinking he might see dirty daisy photos well he wont therefore chargebacks are wayyyy higher.... and the surfer is then turned off because he joined from a page that had this other girl on it

lets ask the question here why in the world would you put a raven riley banner on a page for dirty daisy to begin with anyways? I mean if you want to promote raven riley why not use raven riley.....

You missed the point entirely.

I see gallery posts on a daily basis that have text links to other TGP's and landing pages. If you are promoting teen content (Raven is still being tauted as teen content right?) it is not unusual for there to be links from pages containing content from other sponsors.

I have had dialog with JayMan on this topic in the past and he seems fine with content being displayed so long as proper credit is given. Has the official opinion changed and I missed the memo?

JaceXXX · 2007-02-12, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

You missed the point entirely.

I see gallery posts on a daily basis that have text links to other TGP's and landing pages. If you are promoting teen content (Raven is still being tauted as teen content right?) it is not unusual for there to be links from pages containing content from other sponsors.

I have had dialog with JayMan on this topic in the past and he seems fine with content being displayed so long as proper credit is given. Has the official opinion changed and I missed the memo?

the thing that really gets me about all this, is that people are missing the function and purpose of the script because they use that first post google cache as an example, when in fact if the script is used properly is an excellent way to drive solid filtered niche traffic to any program

Useless · 2007-02-12, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

the thing that really gets me about all this, is that people are missing the function and purpose of the script because they use that first post google cache as an example, when in fact if the script is used properly is an excellent way to drive solid filtered niche traffic to any program

No one is missing the point which you, Frog and Smokey are attempting to make. We get the point. So why don't you go and sell the script to webmasters who agree with you and don't doubt your ethics on this matter. Why keep this argument thriving when you must realize that we will never agree with you. I'm not an "agree to disagree" kind of guy. Let's just say we all disagree and get some fucking work done.

JaceXXX · 2007-02-12, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

No one is missing the point which you, Frog and Smokey are attempting to make. We get the point. So why don't you go and sell the script to webmasters who agree with you and don't doubt your ethics on this matter. Why keep this argument thriving when you must realize that we will never agree with you. I'm not an "agree to disagree" kind of guy. Let's just say we all disagree and get some fucking work done.

done

emc2 · 2007-03-14, 11:29 AM

Hotlinking BAD very, very bad ... EVEN if you have free hosting, the person/company giving you free space is feeling the bite of the load on their servers.

Love my new job

Toby · 2007-03-14, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by emc2

Love my new job

And what job is that? Bumping month old topics? I applied for that position and got turned down.

GonZo · 2007-03-14, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby

And what job is that? Bumping month old topics? I applied for that position and got turned down.

Entertaining thread. Congradulations to all the winners.

tharanga · 2007-04-11, 08:01 AM

Whoring wives! Well this certainly sounds rather interesting to me. Anyways who would like to be with the same wife for years after all boredom is bound to set in, anyways I hope that this place has enough to fulfill all the hidden fantasies of my mind.

oldbrad · 2007-04-11, 10:38 PM

Toby · 2007-04-11, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oldbrad

huh

I guess you had to be there?

Useless · 2007-04-12, 10:08 AM

I don't think it would break anyone's heart to see this thread locked to keep the semi-retarded board newbs from bumping it for no apparent reason, other than to test the 'reply' button.

Dr Bizzaro · 2007-04-12, 01:48 PM

Never mind. <edit>

Useless · 2007-04-12, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Bizzaro

Never mind. <edit>

Don't make me post the link to the pic of my wife doing you from behind again! |shocking|

Dr Bizzaro · 2007-04-12, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Don't make me post the link to the pic of my wife doing you from behind again! |shocking|

You don't need to post it. I have that one burned in and cataloged into my memory.

Damn, that was hot.

You're just wishin it was you. You dirty boy.

2007-02-12, 07:09 PM	#102
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2007-02-12, 07:27 PM	#105
3xTom They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: @home Posts: 141	dont get me wrong sending traffic to raven using ravens pics are fine thats what we are supposed to be doing sending traffic to someone else using ravens pictures is NOT alright and by the way hi greenie __________________ Webmasters Start Making Big Time Money Here

2007-02-12, 07:53 PM	#110
3xTom They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: @home Posts: 141	would i be happy to get traffic from a page featuring another model? no i wouldnt .... lets ask ourselves why? If you sent me traffic from a dirty daisy gallery to my site then the surfer gets there and joins thinking he might see dirty daisy photos well he wont therefore chargebacks are wayyyy higher.... and the surfer is then turned off because he joined from a page that had this other girl on it lets ask the question here why in the world would you put a raven riley banner on a page for dirty daisy to begin with anyways? I mean if you want to promote raven riley why not use raven riley..... __________________ Webmasters Start Making Big Time Money Here

2007-02-12, 08:03 PM	#111
JaceXXX A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 55	3xTom, I think you missed the entire part where this script was used for such a short time and never broadcast via links or advertised in any way, it is just a really good piece of software, so it got indexed, what you saw was a page that was a test page while someone was playing with the script, it getting indexed was something he didn't even know happened because he never even linked it up anywhere.... he never even linked it anywhere, so he probably didn't even think about using the robots.txt to block the se's from it everyone is getting really bent out of shape over a script that is actually amazing when used right, but what everyone saw from the first post of this thread is the script being tested and learned, and then abandoned __________________ That Blog Guy

2007-03-14, 11:29 AM	#116
emc2 Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 66	Newbie Input Hotlinking BAD very, very bad ... EVEN if you have free hosting, the person/company giving you free space is feeling the bite of the load on their servers. Love my new job

2007-02-12, 07:34 PM	#107
SmokeyTbear If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 30	although looking at the test examples it appears quite juvenile and unplanned alot of planning went into this script use my example page above and search for anything with "smokey" in the title and you will notice an "example" text displayed on the page at the bottom middle with ads .. in the readme of the script outlines how to use the features .. in the cop first posted here this was straight from the box install , and hadnt been modified to include any names / sites

2007-02-12, 07:38 PM	#108
SmokeyTbear If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 30	using the test page above go there and search for raven riley or milton twins and you can see how it works.. certain html is inserted based on the keyword searched much like adwords.. in my example page has no "default" ads for if a match is not found, it only displays ads based on matched keywords.

2007-04-11, 08:01 AM	#119
tharanga Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1	Whoring wives! Well this certainly sounds rather interesting to me. Anyways who would like to be with the same wife for years after all boredom is bound to set in, anyways I hope that this place has enough to fulfill all the hidden fantasies of my mind. __________________ I love the Porn Video on Demand

2007-04-11, 10:38 PM	#120
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	huh __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.

2007-04-12, 10:08 AM	#122
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I don't think it would break anyone's heart to see this thread locked to keep the semi-retarded board newbs from bumping it for no apparent reason, other than to test the 'reply' button. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2007-04-12, 01:48 PM	#123
Dr Bizzaro I'm not interested in the facts, I'm interested in my opinion. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,620	Never mind. <edit> __________________ -DrBizzaro Make BIG $ selling text links! Sell Links and get $$ Last edited by Dr Bizzaro; 2007-04-12 at 01:50 PM..