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Old 2006-01-02, 11:12 AM   #1
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What do members believe is the fastest growing Niche?

Looking to put a lot of effort into a new site, so would like to target it at a fast growing (newer) niche that is not likely to decline for a while. Any suggestions?
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Old 2006-01-02, 11:19 AM   #2
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By the time you read about it on the boards, the niche in question has probably almost past it's honeymoon period sell by date.

If you are going to put a lot of effort into something, it's probably better to pick a niche you enjoy.
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Old 2006-01-02, 11:29 AM   #3
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Yup, just like the fishing report. When you hear about the hot spot to go, it means you should have been there yesterday.
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Old 2006-01-02, 11:36 AM   #4
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I created a couple of new niche this past summer that are doing real well. One sponsor has even jumped on the niche. I'm still not ready to say what they are. I may in a year or two. Of course by then I'll have several more newly created niche
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Old 2006-01-02, 11:54 AM   #5
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I always liked the idea of building sites that you were personally interested in, as then it has a more real feel to it.
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Old 2006-01-02, 11:58 AM   #6
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Fair enuff... thanks for the heads up guys.
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Old 2006-01-02, 12:22 PM   #7
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Seems like the trend is going towards more extreme and off the wall content, there are some wacky folks out there!
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Old 2006-01-02, 02:01 PM   #8
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If you are going to put a lot of effort into something, it's probably better to pick a niche you enjoy.
I couldn't agree more. It will also be a niche you most likely are more knowledgable about, which will most likely be beneficial to your sales.
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Old 2006-01-02, 03:16 PM   #9
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I'd pick a niche you like as well, and add a sub-niche to it.

Like black girls? Make a black-anal site. Black-big tits, black-blowjob, black-dp, black-lesbian etc etc etc..

The market is tapped, but untapped.. something like that. A fringe type of thing.
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Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but does Sextracker know that you are using their site design Mattinblack?
http://ukescort.kwikfire.com/
http://www.sextracker.com/

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Old 2006-01-02, 05:48 PM   #11
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I always liked the idea of building sites that you were personally interested in, as then it has a more real feel to it.
I agree 100% if its a niche you like you will understand it better, which means better text, picking better photos/movies etc...
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Old 2006-01-03, 07:15 AM   #12
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Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but does Sextracker know that you are using their site design Mattinblack?
http://ukescort.kwikfire.com/
http://www.sextracker.com/

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Sextracker has seen this design used several times Urb. I will use anything that works well and am not above copying and modification. I am in such illustrious company as IBM, McDonalds, Microsoft and most governments there!

What I do is not 'art' but making money. I had a previous design that did not perform so well, and have new design in the wings that hopefully will do better if I ever get time to finish it. If that does not work then I will step back to this one.

PS: if you look at Olympus- http://olympus.kwikfire.com you will see I do some original stuff as well!
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Sextracker has seen this design used several times Urb. I will use anything that works well and am not above copying and modification.
No worries, I guess their site design is just public domain then?
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Old 2006-01-03, 07:40 AM   #14
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PS: if you look at Olympus- http://olympus.kwikfire.com you will see I do some original stuff as well!
hey can you pm me when one of those guys gets a "sexual 10/10"??
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Old 2006-01-03, 07:53 AM   #15
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Old 2006-01-03, 10:32 AM   #16
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No worries, I guess their site design is just public domain then?
Legally if people use a design without permission and there is no defence of copyright within a period (which varies from country to country in practice though I believe international law sets it at 12 months) then you lose that copyright.... as a designer you should know that one. If I had a dollar for every site that copied my original Top-Times escort site in the 80's then I would b rich! There is also a substantial grey area as to how much of a copy something has to be to infringe copyright.

For example if somebody copied this entire BB then so long as they
did not call it GG&J (they would be guilty of 'passing off' if they did) and GG&J did not mount a proper challenge in writing within 12 months they would get away with it unless they were in the same state/country as GG&J and that state happened to have different laws. Of course none of *us* would go there would we?

If they (sex tracker) complain and I dont believe they will because their reviewers have seen the site and there are other more blatant copies out there - a site on kinghosts I saw even had exactly the same buttons - plus I am plugging sextrackers products on site; then I will change it. I plan to change it as soon as I finish the new template set to go with my VB sitebuilder anyway since I think I have a design that works better.
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Old 2006-01-03, 10:35 AM   #17
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hey can you pm me when one of those guys gets a "sexual 10/10"??
LOL have passed your request onto Sherri, the lady who runs the non-net part of the enterprise. I expect she will throw a party if that happens and invite you over. By the way I am not responsible for putting the ugly looking git at the top of the listing - Sherri got him to pay through the nose for that placement and unfortunately he is happy with it though it has not done the sites conversion rates much good!
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Mattinblack, I don't think it is a question of "what you can legally get away with" but more a moral issue. I can clearly see where you have taken graphical images (which have a lifelong copyright as a work of art) and have lightly modified the original to reflect your site name instead of sextracker.

The implication here is if this is what you would do for your own public face, what should we think of the rest of your business practices?

Think about it.

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Old 2006-01-03, 11:04 AM   #19
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Legally if people use a design without permission and there is no defence of copyright within a period (which varies from country to country in practice though I believe international law sets it at 12 months) then you lose that copyright.... as a designer you should know that one.
I guess I'm totally ignorant of the law.

Thanks for putting me straight Matt.
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Matt, you might want to spend some time over here:

http://www.patent.gov.uk/copy/indetail/ownership.htm

I think you may be confusing "trademark" and "copyright". Failure to protect a trademark or tradename can cause it's loss. Certainly a different animal.

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Perhaps you might want to consult the WIPO website...

http://www.wipo.int/copyright/en/faq/faqs.htm#rights

I can't seem to find much about 12 month expiries or "uncontested" uses... seems to me you get upwards to 70 years to start with and more beyond that.

Please... help me out here... show me how you figure you can steal from others with impunity.

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Old 2006-01-03, 11:44 AM   #22
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Copyright, unless it's changed, last for 30 years after the death of the person who owns the copyright, or there abouts.
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Thanks for the information Alex.

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Legally if people use a design without permission and there is no defence of copyright within a period (which varies from country to country in practice though I believe international law sets it at 12 months) then you lose that copyright.... as a designer you should know that one.
So basically, what Matt said in this post was not true?
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urb, I cannot find anything anywhere to support the notion of "uncontested copyright". I don't say true or untrue, but I can't find anything to support it, so I asked for some links or information to work from.

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Thanks Alex

I'm here to learn, so if anyone can post a link to any information regarding uncontested copyright laws and web design, then please help us fill in the blanks.
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