Some domains are banned. Why?

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 08:59 AM

Hello,

some domains on my host are banned with the reason "fetishspace is 3fnnet host". Why?
I'm not a "3fnnet".

Useless · 2005-11-20, 09:10 AM

When I see fetishspace in someone's whois, I assume that their domains are sponsor hosted. Would that be correct? If not, who is the host?

Yahook · 2005-11-20, 09:17 AM

I know that sponsor hosts are banned but I don't understand why. Some sponsor hosts are even faster and more realiable than a pay hosts.

Surfn · 2005-11-20, 09:23 AM

I doubt that you have the capacity to understand why Yahook.

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I assume that their domains are sponsor hosted. Would that be correct?

1. It is not correct...
2. I'm the owner of both AFRevenue program and fetishspace hosting.
3. No one domain with "fetishspace" in the whois is sponsor hosted.
Just a sample: http://nylon-pictures.com/
We can see 16 paysites promoted on this domain... but nothing deals with AFRevenue program.
Is it OK for sponsor hosted domains?

Ramster · 2005-11-20, 09:30 AM

Yahook
The reason sponsor hosted domains are banned by many people is the webmaster has NO control over the domain and hosting so the sponsor could pull the hosting at any time. Therefore banning hosting NOT owned by the poster is a good way to reduce 404 and redirects in the future.

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook

I know that sponsor hosts are banned

We are speaking here not about banned sponsor hosts, Yahook.

I try to find here a reason why my servers, where I sell virtual hosting plans, are banned with the reason "fetishspace is 3fnnet host".

MrMaryLou · 2005-11-20, 09:42 AM

The whois tells it all

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

The whois tells it all

What exactly it tells?

Registration and WHOIS Service Provided By: directNIC.com

Registrant:
Nova Publishing ltd.
16 G Malekides street app 23
Paphos, CY 49130
CY
7416646

Domain Name: FETISHSPACE.NET

Administrative Contact:
Patlias, Georgia
16 G Malekides street app 23
Paphos, CY 49130
CY
7416646

Where is above written that fetishspace is a sponsor host?

MrMaryLou · 2005-11-20, 09:56 AM

Who said it was a sponsor host LOL its
same ip
Domain name: pornofamily.net

Patrick Steepman (7ND8X)
16 G Malekides street app 23
East End, CY 49130
Cyprus

Record last updated on 2005-03-31 00:00:00
Record created on 2002-04-05 00:00:00
Record expires on 2006-04-05 00:00:00

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.3fn.net
ns1.3fn.net

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

Who said it was a sponsor host LOL its
same ip
Domain name: pornofamily.net

Is your surename Holms?

Yes, I have one server rented from 3fn.
And all MY domains are hosted on it.
pornofamily.net is my domain.
fetishspace.net is also my domain.
You can see "16 G Malekides street app 23" in both whois info ...
I'm an owner of both companies.. but they have different administrators.. and all my domains are registered on this address.

MY domains are hosted on the one server
(rented from 3fn)...
Another domains (not mine, but my clients, are hosted on another servers)... They even are allocated on the different routers, as you could see in the traceroute...

MrMaryLou · 2005-11-20, 10:23 AM

MMM case closed you are hosted at 3fn.net

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

MMM case closed you are hosted at 3fn.net

I'm not hosted at 3fn.net...
I rent a racspace and upstrim entry point from 3fn.net, can you see the difference?

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 10:34 AM

Ok. You ban pornofamily.net, cause it is hosted on 3fn.net...
you don't like 3fn.net ...

But another domains?

Yahook · 2005-11-20, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Yahook
The reason sponsor hosted domains are banned by many people is the webmaster has NO control over the domain and hosting so the sponsor could pull the hosting at any time. Therefore banning hosting NOT owned by the poster is a good way to reduce 404 and redirects in the future.

You're correct. But I was talking about the case when webmaster owns the domains. He can change NS servers any time he likes and move all his sites to another host.

Greenguy · 2005-11-20, 11:29 AM

Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.

As far as 3fn, they've been banned by a lot of Link Lists for a long time. There's been a lot of whois hiding & secret nameservers & whatnot, but in the end, we usually find the sites that use their hosting.

Yahook · 2005-11-20, 11:44 AM

Some content is also free.

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.

All webmasters which keep their domains on the fetishspace hosting are pay for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

As far as 3fn, they've been banned by a lot of Link Lists for a long time. There's been a lot of whois hiding & secret nameservers & whatnot, but in the end, we usually find the sites that use their hosting.

Can you see the difference between "3fn hosting" and "3fn equipment"?

You can ban 3fn hosting, of course, cause you don't like a 3fn policy.

But why you ban another company, with another policy, which use 3fn equipment?

I'm AFRevenue ... I'm not 3fn...

I rule these servers... 3fn doesn't rule it.

If some time ago one "Jaguar" run over your lovely frog... Should you kill all people which drive "Jaguars"?

Greenguy · 2005-11-20, 12:17 PM

What the fuck does hosting have to do with content?

And there's not much anyone can say to me to get me to remove the ban on 3fn.

Yahook · 2005-11-20, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.

People don't pay for some content and it's free - it's the same concept. Nothing personal.

I'm really upset than there are no garantee for well made free site to be listed in all linklists

Greenguy · 2005-11-20, 12:23 PM

I do not list free hosted sites this is clearly stated in my rules. So any moron stupid enought to submit a free hosted site to me should be disappointed in themselves for not reading the rules & blaming me.

You are starting to get realt fucking annoying. Go run your link list your way & stay the fuck out of my business.

MrMaryLou · 2005-11-20, 12:24 PM

Why Oh Why

RawAlex · 2005-11-20, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook

People don't pay for some content and it's free - it's the same concept. Nothing personal.

I'm really upset than there are no garantee for well made free site to be listed in all linklists

I provide listing services to webmasters who, like myself, have invested to be in a business. I do not extend the same professional courtesy to people using free or bartered hosting. I consider that their sites, content, and pages can disappear at random, they have no control over their business, and therefore I don't need to take their listings.

I also don't take porn sites illegally hosted on geocities and personal webspace provided by your local ISP (such as AOL). Does that make me a truly bad man?

As for 3FN, well, if you rent space in a bad neighborhood and just change the name on your door, you are still in a bad neighborhood.

Alex

AFRevenue · 2005-11-20, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

And there's not much anyone can say to me to get me to remove the ban on 3fn.

I don't ask you to remove the ban on 3fn.
I just ask you to remove ban on domains hosted on my servers.
It's very simple to recognize it.
They have a fetishspace.net in whois.

RawAlex · 2005-11-20, 12:47 PM

You don't get the point. It isn't about what the DNS is (many hosts let you self-manage a dns, often using the name of one of your domains as the dns) but where you are hosted. You are still in a bad neighborhood.

Alex

2005-11-20, 08:59 AM	#1
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2005-11-20, 09:10 AM	#2
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2005-11-20, 09:23 AM	#4
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2005-11-20, 09:30 AM	#6
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2005-11-20, 09:42 AM	#8
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2005-11-20, 09:17 AM	#3
Yahook Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 511	I know that sponsor hosts are banned but I don't understand why. Some sponsor hosts are even faster and more realiable than a pay hosts.

2005-11-20, 09:56 AM	#10
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	Who said it was a sponsor host LOL its same ip Domain name: pornofamily.net Patrick Steepman (7ND8X) 16 G Malekides street app 23 East End, CY 49130 Cyprus Record last updated on 2005-03-31 00:00:00 Record created on 2002-04-05 00:00:00 Record expires on 2006-04-05 00:00:00 Domain servers in listed order: ns2.3fn.net ns1.3fn.net __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2005-11-20, 10:23 AM	#12
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2005-11-20, 10:34 AM	#14
AFRevenue If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dreamland Posts: 34	Ok. You ban pornofamily.net, cause it is hosted on 3fn.net... you don't like 3fn.net ... But another domains? __________________ <a href="http://www.afrevenue.com"><img src="http://www.afrevenue.com/afrevenue_button_120x60.gif" width=120 height=60 border=0><br> AFRevenue Partnership - Just good fetish sites...</a>

2005-11-20, 11:29 AM	#16
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,754	Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept. As far as 3fn, they've been banned by a lot of Link Lists for a long time. There's been a lot of whois hiding & secret nameservers & whatnot, but in the end, we usually find the sites that use their hosting. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-11-20, 11:44 AM	#17
Yahook Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 511	Some content is also free.

2005-11-20, 12:17 PM	#19
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,754	What the fuck does hosting have to do with content? And there's not much anyone can say to me to get me to remove the ban on 3fn. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-11-20, 12:23 PM	#21
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,754	I do not list free hosted sites this is clearly stated in my rules. So any moron stupid enought to submit a free hosted site to me should be disappointed in themselves for not reading the rules & blaming me. You are starting to get realt fucking annoying. Go run your link list your way & stay the fuck out of my business. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-11-20, 12:24 PM	#22
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2005-11-20, 12:47 PM	#25
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	You don't get the point. It isn't about what the DNS is (many hosts let you self-manage a dns, often using the name of one of your domains as the dns) but where you are hosted. You are still in a bad neighborhood. Alex