What would you rather have content or money?

2005-05-31, 07:12 AM

Was chatting with an affilaite a few minutes ago and he said he would rather have content than money for sign ups, if the amount of content was more than the money pay out. For instance 100% in content or 50% in money for Rev Share.

What are your thoughts?

Rocco · 2005-05-31, 07:41 AM

depends on what I need: if I need content that would be a great deal

Greenguy · 2005-05-31, 08:44 AM

Isn't that sorta like a house builder getting paid with wood?

Mefo · 2005-05-31, 08:52 AM

no thnx, I prefer money

2005-05-31, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

Isn't that sorta like a house builder getting paid with wood?

Exactly. But if he gets $90 of wood instead of $30 in cash and he can use the wood to turn into $900 it seems a good deal.

Depends if he needs wood.

Now how do I get him to take payment in nails. |king|

Qon · 2005-05-31, 09:04 AM

vague question but in my current situation, if it was a deal? i'd take the content

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grzepa · 2005-05-31, 09:07 AM

Well if you'll provide a diffrent link code that'll be "pay per content" I think it'll be cool with many people. If you need content than you make gallery/freesite with that link and in the future submissions you could always move back to normal link codes.

2005-05-31, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DamnQ

vague question but in my current situation, if it was a deal? i'd take the content

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Sorry about that, this is for the paysite and as I'm new at it this post is me testing the water on a new idea.

SirMoby · 2005-05-31, 09:35 AM

If the content was shot here in the USA using hot European models that stayed here long enough to get work permits and CA driver lisenses and came with complete scanned copies (not photos) of the model IDs, a signed, datad and notorized copy of the model release forms and the content was actually good then maybe I'd choose the content.

Otherwise it's pretty hard to tell at this point

swedguy · 2005-05-31, 09:38 AM

Since I always need content, it would be nice to get content instead of money, as long as it would be a GOOD deal.

The best way to do it (IMHO), would be to have add "content" as a payout option in the admin, like: Check, wire, epassporte, content
That would make it would be easy for the webmaster to switch it over to content if they need some content, or regular money if they have enough content for the time being.

2005-05-31, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SirMoby

If the content was shot here in the USA using hot European models that stayed here long enough to get work permits and CA driver lisenses and came with complete scanned copies (not photos) of the model IDs, a signed, datad and notorized copy of the model release forms and the content was actually good then maybe I'd choose the content.

Otherwise it's pretty hard to tell at this point

What's wrong with them being shot here? I'm the primary producer so it's fine.

I assume you don't want to give the content to affilaites. LOL

Mr. Blue · 2005-05-31, 10:04 AM

So a $15 revshare signup instead he would take $30 in content? Seems odd to me as if your site has a good retention and rebill rate he would make more than $30.

Also you supply free content to promote your site? So, when he goes through that content if he requested more content would you supply him with it? Most sponsors usually do...so if he just remained promoting your site he could build up a nice little revshare income (if you have a good rebill rate), and still have content supplied by you to promote your site.

SirMoby · 2005-05-31, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

What's wrong with them being shot here? I'm the primary producer so it's fine.

I assume you don't want to give the content to affilaites. LOL

When you read the regulations it's up for debate if a US based company can use content unless the model has a US issued ID.

Remember the paragraph below does not say "PRIMARY producer". It only uses the term producer which mean both primary and secondary.

"or, a foreign government-issued equivalent of any of the
documents listed above when both the person who is the subject of the
picture identification card and the producer maintaining the required
records are located outside the United States."

2005-05-31, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

So a $15 revshare signup instead he would take $30 in content? Seems odd to me as if your site has a good retention and rebill rate he would make more than $30.

Also you supply free content to promote your site? So, when he goes through that content if he requested more content would you supply him with it? Most sponsors usually do...so if he just remained promoting your site he could build up a nice little revshare income (if you have a good rebill rate), and still have content supplied by you to promote your site.

Firstly an affiliate will have to build up a lot of joins to just wander into the site to take what he thinks he can. Then he will get it with our logo and must promote us, with the new 2257 US affiliates might be stuck with softcore only because I may not give out the IDs, that will be decided on an individaul basis.

So this content is hit to do what he likes with within the license terms.

SirMoby
Yes that is what we thought at first, but all the lawyers in all the US magazine companies are telling us otherwise. That would cripple the US teen porn market.

In fact it would damage the market in more than just teens.

swedguy · 2005-05-31, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

Then he will get it with our logo and must promote us

Then it's not that a very good deal, IMHO. It's basically just sponsor content, nothing else.
Get paid with sponsor content or money? Easy choice.

2005-05-31, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy

Then it's not that a very good deal, IMHO. It's basically just sponsor content, nothing else.
Get paid with sponsor content or money? Easy choice.

No that would be the free content, the content in place of money would be the content store, content.

DonPaul · 2005-05-31, 11:11 AM

Depends on the conversion ratio on the site the traffic was sent to too

If the conversion was 1:100000 or something I would take cash

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For Paul's site it might work out though, his content is GREAT

I bought 160 sets or so from him 1-2 months ago

swedguy · 2005-05-31, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

No that would be the free content, the content in place of money would be the content store, content.

But if the content can only be used for promoting your sites, it's just glorified sponsor content.

stuveltje · 2005-05-31, 12:07 PM

i would choose content because with the content i can make money, otherwise its money and i need to buy content with that money, i prefer the other way around

koolkat · 2005-05-31, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Isn't that sorta like a house builder getting paid with wood?

What about porn webmasters getting wood?

Back to the question... I'd rather have the money... but then again I am a cash whore!

tickler · 2005-06-01, 12:05 AM

I can see two options here.

I have a couple of content providers that I list with my affilate codes, and can take either money or content(no branding).

Also a lot of sponsors now have "point" systems for sales, that can be spent in their "stores" for things like content, etc.

2005-06-01, 01:37 AM

Seems to be a mixed bunch, will talk to CCBILL about getting some options on the way we pay out.

stev0 · 2005-06-01, 03:18 AM

good idea

Jim · 2005-06-01, 07:46 AM

We have on occasion offered sponsorship on GGandJ for content. But, I do like the money.

Jim · 2005-06-01, 07:46 AM

But, as an affiliate...give me cash.

2005-05-31, 07:12 AM	#1
Paul Markham2 Guest Posts: n/a	What would you rather have content or money? Was chatting with an affilaite a few minutes ago and he said he would rather have content than money for sign ups, if the amount of content was more than the money pay out. For instance 100% in content or 50% in money for Rev Share. What are your thoughts?

2005-05-31, 07:41 AM	#2
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2005-05-31, 08:52 AM	#4
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2005-05-31, 09:04 AM	#6
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2005-05-31, 09:07 AM	#7
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2005-05-31, 09:35 AM	#9
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	If the content was shot here in the USA using hot European models that stayed here long enough to get work permits and CA driver lisenses and came with complete scanned copies (not photos) of the model IDs, a signed, datad and notorized copy of the model release forms and the content was actually good then maybe I'd choose the content. Otherwise it's pretty hard to tell at this point

2005-05-31, 09:38 AM	#10
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	Since I always need content, it would be nice to get content instead of money, as long as it would be a GOOD deal. The best way to do it (IMHO), would be to have add "content" as a payout option in the admin, like: Check, wire, epassporte, content That would make it would be easy for the webmaster to switch it over to content if they need some content, or regular money if they have enough content for the time being.

2005-05-31, 10:04 AM	#12
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	So a $15 revshare signup instead he would take $30 in content? Seems odd to me as if your site has a good retention and rebill rate he would make more than $30. Also you supply free content to promote your site? So, when he goes through that content if he requested more content would you supply him with it? Most sponsors usually do...so if he just remained promoting your site he could build up a nice little revshare income (if you have a good rebill rate), and still have content supplied by you to promote your site.

2005-05-31, 11:11 AM	#17
DonPaul Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 106	Depends on the conversion ratio on the site the traffic was sent to too If the conversion was 1:100000 or something I would take cash ) For Paul's site it might work out though, his content is GREAT I bought 160 sets or so from him 1-2 months ago __________________ Make $$$ with MassiveDollars.com! Want typein+SE traffic? Submit here

2005-05-31, 12:07 PM	#19
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2005-06-01, 12:05 AM	#21
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	I can see two options here. I have a couple of content providers that I list with my affilate codes, and can take either money or content(no branding). Also a lot of sponsors now have "point" systems for sales, that can be spent in their "stores" for things like content, etc. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-06-01, 01:37 AM	#22
Paul Markham2 Guest Posts: n/a	Seems to be a mixed bunch, will talk to CCBILL about getting some options on the way we pay out.

2005-06-01, 03:18 AM	#23
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2005-06-01, 07:46 AM	#24
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	We have on occasion offered sponsorship on GGandJ for content. But, I do like the money.