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Old 2004-03-24, 09:11 AM   #26
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Well, what I have read I have learn this:

Crossdressers, or transvestites as we call them here are straight men who want to dress in women's clothes but are heteros. Most of them are married.

Drag queens are gays.

Shemales are men who live as women but don't want sex change opeartion.

Transsexuals are "men" who want to be women and want sex change operation or "women" who want to be men and want sex change operation. Male to female transsexual is called M to F, and female to male transsexual is called F to M. Before operation they are called pre-op and after post-op.

Men who want transsexuals are not gay in a matter that they won't usually go with men. They can be transsexuals or shemales themselves, just in closet still. Some of them will go out, some don't.

IMHO transgender sites are their own niche and it's not wise to put them under gay category. Surfers don't look there.

I don't usually submit my tranny sites to LL who put them in gay category, but today I made exception. That LL sends nice traffic, and I thought WTF, I can try this once.
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Old 2004-03-24, 10:33 AM   #27
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Niche of it's own - most Def. How many transexuals do you see on a gay porn site?

Now, if you have finished fucking with our minds Jay - I'll get back to work

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Old 2004-03-24, 11:12 AM   #28
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After enough reading on this thread, I've decided that maybe I did the right thing on my linklist:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/gay_main.html

See the "THE FENCE-RIDER GAY LINKS" - just meaning:

Let the surfer make up thier mind.

The tranny links are also visible with the straight links as well:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/main.html

My mind is made up though, if you have a dick and you want to have sex with something that has one as well...that's gay.
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Old 2004-03-24, 12:04 PM   #29
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Do MMF bi-sex sites fit into a gay LL?
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Old 2004-03-24, 01:20 PM   #30
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Do MMF bi-sex sites fit into a gay LL?
I would say so - a bisex category would not be out of place in a gay link list at all - the straight out and out gays (excuse pun) would probably give MMF sites a miss - but Bi guys would lap em' up!
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Old 2004-03-24, 03:05 PM   #31
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i'd have to say tranny is not gay.

gay guys dont like to even hear about boobs from what i have been told.

i would keep tranny stuff on the "straight" sections

i think you will get more people coming through the straight side interested in tranny stuff then the ones coming from the gay side
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Old 2004-03-25, 12:59 PM   #32
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Pheonix - that's why I've gone through the trouble of dividing my LL in half and making certian links available to both.

If we, as webmasters in the sex business are confused, you can imagine what the surfer experience must be like.
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Old 2004-03-25, 02:09 PM   #33
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Jay - a little off topic - but if ya think tranny is bad - check out what most of the sponsors think a bdsm/bondage site should be
I've seen very few that have any idea what the surfer who is really looking for bondage and BDSM content is looking for but I can tell you that both parties in collars with a guys dick in the female "slave" mouth probably is the worst depiction of what they want - as soon as I see a banner like that on a sponsor page, I move on and so do the surfers
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Old 2004-03-25, 07:56 PM   #34
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Tranny is NOT GAY!

If you are running a link list, put a separate section for it. While there may be some overlap in the audience, you will more likely alienate your audience looking for more traditionally gay sex links.

I think its hard when designing for niches that don't personally appeal to you, and when thinking about gays & trannys its easy to just have a black or white notion of sexuality... but its not that simple!

Some men may define themseleves as straight and maybe only have heterosexual sex, but might find trannys sexually appealing. The same might go for gay men.

Then there may be some people who define themseleves as "transgendered" or "transexual"... these have different meanings and implications, so don't just assume.

I think your best bet is to keep your gay & tranny sites/links/whatever separate as they are very different niches...

Think if some guy is looking for the gay teen niche aka "twink" and he sees a big banner with tranny on it! He will close that page ASAP and move on.

Also, if you look at gay culture as a whole trannys tend to be pretty separate or at least on the fringes. (drag queens do not equal trannies!) The major gay video companies like Falcon don't do tranny videos... its not much of an overlaping market.

thats my cheap two cents
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Old 2004-03-26, 04:22 PM   #35
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lol

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Depends....are you picthing or catching?
I agree, I have lived with 2 gay men over the course of the last six years, roomies, etc. They have mixed opinions. But my own, I have known men into women and trannies but not men. Men who are openly gay, want men that look like men, not men that look like women. Alot of men into trannies are married and seeking out they're taboo. Anyway the older I get the gayer my friends become, I have been to many of gay bars and damn near conviced, there are some pretty hot fucking trannys out there, I just have to make sure what I drink, as too not get too confused, lol. I personally am not into it but sources say straight men go after women and trannys, gay men go after gay men.
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Old 2004-03-26, 04:30 PM   #36
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...but sources say straight men go after women and trannys, gay men go after gay men.
I agree. I think you hit the nail on the head (er, no pun intended. ;>)
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Old 2004-03-26, 05:40 PM   #37
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Old 2004-03-27, 03:19 PM   #38
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Re: Is tranny gay?

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I've been updating my bannerserver and I am a little confused.

Is tranny gay?

Definently strange, but is it a gay thing or no?
Thats a big question. The short answer is no, tranny is not gay because someone who likes watching a tranny suck cock will not like watching a guy suck cock.
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Old 2004-03-30, 03:03 AM   #39
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Lots of straight guys seems to like shemales. They definitely don't fall in the gay category but I think transvetites (hairy dudes in dresses) do.
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From what I know Tranny is not gay.
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Old 2004-03-30, 05:40 PM   #41
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Just wanted to share an update that RateMyTranny - the ars4real site is converting overall 1:350...and that's including on all 404 and crap traffic.

my 2 cents... Tranny should not be promoted to just gay traffic, or to just straight traffic as it falls into a niche all it's own. Although, no one is the same and should not be classified into little boxes....I've found that 'some' straight and 'some' gay surfers are interested and therefore join Tranny sites out of curiosity.
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Old 2004-03-31, 06:38 PM   #42
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Tranny is not gay, I think so....
But they like to be fucked in their hairy asses like gays, as I saw on worldsex two days ago...
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Old 2004-04-01, 04:17 PM   #43
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The correct answer to the question "Is Tranny Gay" is "Ask Her"
Transexuality is - in fact - a matter of gender, not of sexual preference.
Does tranny appeal to gay? - not really, gays prefer the male gender...
The vast majority of people interested in transexuals are straight men, women and other transexuals.
Some very well informed comments from Linkster, mml and DoubleP... good points from Kezza too...
But the grand prize goes to finnbear - who's answer was virtually perfect
(...transvestitism / crossdressing is - in itself - really more of a clothing fetish - a bit like bondage really - it's done by both straight and gay men - the majority are straight simply because most men are!)
Many transexuals whose sexual orientation is towards women simply live as men, some cross dress in secret, some with their partners and many just spend a lot of time in that big African river (de-nile)...
The best place to put them is their own niche but you can really pull sales using them as a shocker ad on straight sites...
The biggest mistake you can make is to emphasise their masculinity...
Guys who are turned on by transexuals don't like to think of themselves as gay because they aren't - so many of them will shy away from "Chicks with Dicks" - emphasise the femininity and "ignore" the masculinity - you'll do much better.

Oh - and a transexual site which doesn't include the words "secret or hidden" in the title would be refreshing
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