Will you list this site?

CrazySy · 2008-03-30, 08:20 PM

Not much of a difference, but it kinda is different( I call it v.1.15)

Will you list THIS SITE? I am going to test and see how it does and yes I know, one page has 4 outgoing links

Lets

I hope to hear from link list I usually submit to as well as others. This site will be submitted to only 18 link lists.

SheepGuy · 2008-03-30, 08:33 PM

DangerDave · 2008-03-30, 08:49 PM

No probably not...

One of the things wrong with all these re-designs(no personal offence intended

).. is that the 'site' has become "secondary" to the ads...

Yes we are all in the biz to make money.. but that site even at 1280x 1024, is one giant ad with recips..

On that page alone the site the 'site' occupies and area about 200x220, while the 'page' is about 1260x900, and if my high school maths is correct that is about 3% of the page...

Murray said it in the other thread... the site is what is/was used to sell.. not the ads..

To me that is just a fukin big FPA

DD

CrazySy · 2008-03-30, 08:56 PM

Dave, that's why I posted it. I need honest replies and thanks for being honest

CrazySy · 2008-03-30, 09:04 PM

To get back to the point of "To me that is just a fukin big FPA", will removing the top banner make it look any better?

Lemmy · 2008-03-30, 11:07 PM

I'd list it. Recips are clearly defined as is site navigation. Content is easy to find. "Noise" to content ratio is acceptable.

CrazySy · 2008-03-30, 11:29 PM

Thanks Lemmy, I think the level of aggressiveness is very similar to THIS SITE, it's just a bit different concept/layout. I think the top banner is what makes it like a FPA?

Useless · 2008-03-30, 11:51 PM

You know my answer.

The index and main pages have always been nothing more than full page ads. I don't see how that site is anymore aggressive than any other quality free site. All you've done is moved the recip table so that it isn't directly dividing the ad blocks. Perhaps you could move the warning and teaser thumbs higher on the page to perform that function for the more discriminating reviewers.

I really like the bonus page. It's a creative way to make the free site more substantial while giving the surfer a better taste of what the paysite has to offer. It's always easier to build with a single photo set or two, but that may not be enough to entice surfers. That bonus page really lets them no that there are lot of babes to see, not just the three in the main galleries.

papagmp · 2008-03-31, 12:05 AM

I'd definitely list it - I too like the bonus page. Nice work Sy.

Porn Junkie · 2008-03-31, 01:06 AM

I like it, for the regular LL surfer, it throughs them off from your A-typical FS structure and makes them actually look at the page and the links.

JustRobert · 2008-03-31, 01:46 AM

I would and only hope you send it my way. If you only have one spot left pick LegalTeenLust, its traffic is better

Pick redheads since 2of3 galleries are. LTL has a hairy category as well for those mirrors you talked about in another thread.

DangerDave · 2008-03-31, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazySy

Dave, that's why I posted it. I need honest replies and thanks for being honest

You know I love you

DD

Magix · 2008-03-31, 04:01 AM

Bonus page is nice idea

Maybe this will be a new FS v 1.5

japamor · 2008-03-31, 04:06 AM

I'd list it. I think that's a nicely balanced site layout. Looks real good.

CrazySy · 2008-03-31, 06:59 AM

Thanks guys

I'd like to be able to make different sites besides the standard 4 page freesites. I know that index page is heavy, but I think the site navigation is pretty clear. Link list surfers know that they have to scroll down to get to the "Enter" link, and this is no different. The difference is, there is no "Enter" link

I thought "Main Page" would do just fine, knowing I have links directly to the galleries.

Also, as you can see, the galleries are extremely clean and pics are all in one block. I am not here to FUCK the surfers, I want to test different ideas and see what works, what doesn't. I am going to make my next few sites a bit different and submit them to link lists that will list it (if I get a chance to make more sites for myself

).

I said it myself on Saturday... Proper advertising is better than aggressive advertising, and yes I know some people might bring that to my face, but I didn't add any extra links to the index page, I just didn't break my ads with warning text or recip table as UW mentioned

Keep your comments coming

Magix · 2008-03-31, 07:43 AM

you can also post some of your new FS here on board, it's interesting to some new sites coming and that LL owners list them ( well, most of them ).

And if you don't mind maybe i can use that bonus site idea ?

Something is telling me ( well, maybe i'm wrong, but still) that "the bonus" site could generate some proper sales

spacemanspiff · 2008-03-31, 08:00 AM

As usual, nice work Sy. I'd list it.

CrazySy · 2008-03-31, 10:07 AM

Looks like I am only getting listed at 11 link lists so far

But not that dissapointed, because I like the site myself

Preacher · 2008-03-31, 10:37 AM

Sy, I'd list it as well. Nice looking site.

Fonz · 2008-03-31, 10:39 AM

I'd list it too Sy

LeRoy · 2008-03-31, 10:43 AM

Looks good CrazySy. I thought version 1.5 has 40-50 recips.

Tekster · 2008-03-31, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D2222

Looks good CrazySy. I thought version 1.5 has 40-50 recips.

This is version 1.15. (Pay Attention!

)

I would listed Sy.

annie_cash · 2008-03-31, 11:31 AM

yes, I would list it

Greenguy · 2008-03-31, 11:32 AM

DAMN YOU SY

Now you've got me thinking

I have to agree with DDave on the FPA angle (that rule has gotten very bent in the last few years)

I really do think that if you moved the warning to under the top banner & cut down on the size of the ad on that page, you'd be fine.

Assuming that the ad space on there was decreased & the warning increased, all you'd have is a warning page that links to the galleries as well as the the main page. If you took the MAIN, BONUS, GALLERY 1, 2, 3 text out & put ENTER, EXIT text in there, you'd then have a normal Free Site.

I'm confused as to the goal of this design? I can see the increase of ads on the warning page as a replacement for not seeing the main page. I also see no need for those "MAIN PAGE" links as your main page is really the warning page.

But maybe you're just presenting an option to eliminate the main page?

I'm very

CrazySy · 2008-03-31, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

DAMN YOU SY

Now you've got me thinking

I have to agree with DDave on the FPA angle (that rule has gotten very bent in the last few years)

I really do think that if you moved the warning to under the top banner & cut down on the size of the ad on that page, you'd be fine.

Assuming that the ad space on there was decreased & the warning increased, all you'd have is a warning page that links to the galleries as well as the the main page. If you took the MAIN, BONUS, GALLERY 1, 2, 3 text out & put ENTER, EXIT text in there, you'd then have a normal Free Site.

I'm confused as to the goal of this design? I can see the increase of ads on the warning page as a replacement for not seeing the main page. I also see no need for those "MAIN PAGE" links as your main page is really the warning page.

But maybe you're just presenting an option to eliminate the main page?

I'm very

LOL, didn't mean to get you

Am I trying to eliminate the main page? Not really, knowing many curious fuckers still will click on that link to see what's there, so I have three sponsor links waiting for them to click on

I am not trying to re-invent freesite structure (as you mentioned, it's not that much different than a standard freesite), I am just trying to be different and also see how sites like that perform as far as sales goes.

I now know that many of you have issues with the ads on the index page, so maybe I build another site with smaller ad space and see how that would do?

I don't know, I just felt like building that site. As many of you know, I build sites for many people ,and I think I am getting bored with the same look after building hundreds of them in a short period of time

Thank God I was not smoking

Keep your eyes open for another freaky looking site

2008-03-30, 08:20 PM	#1
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	Will you list this site? Not much of a difference, but it kinda is different( I call it v.1.15) Will you list THIS SITE? I am going to test and see how it does and yes I know, one page has 4 outgoing links Lets I hope to hear from link list I usually submit to as well as others. This site will be submitted to only 18 link lists. __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-03-30, 08:33 PM	#2
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2008-03-30, 08:49 PM	#3
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	No probably not... One of the things wrong with all these re-designs(no personal offence intended ).. is that the 'site' has become "secondary" to the ads... Yes we are all in the biz to make money.. but that site even at 1280x 1024, is one giant ad with recips.. On that page alone the site the 'site' occupies and area about 200x220, while the 'page' is about 1260x900, and if my high school maths is correct that is about 3% of the page... Murray said it in the other thread... the site is what is/was used to sell.. not the ads.. To me that is just a fukin big FPA DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2008-03-30, 08:56 PM	#4
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	Dave, that's why I posted it. I need honest replies and thanks for being honest __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-03-30, 09:04 PM	#5
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	To get back to the point of "To me that is just a fukin big FPA", will removing the top banner make it look any better? __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-03-30, 11:07 PM	#6
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I'd list it. Recips are clearly defined as is site navigation. Content is easy to find. "Noise" to content ratio is acceptable. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2008-03-30, 11:29 PM	#7
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	Thanks Lemmy, I think the level of aggressiveness is very similar to THIS SITE, it's just a bit different concept/layout. I think the top banner is what makes it like a FPA? __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-03-30, 11:51 PM	#8
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	You know my answer. The index and main pages have always been nothing more than full page ads. I don't see how that site is anymore aggressive than any other quality free site. All you've done is moved the recip table so that it isn't directly dividing the ad blocks. Perhaps you could move the warning and teaser thumbs higher on the page to perform that function for the more discriminating reviewers. I really like the bonus page. It's a creative way to make the free site more substantial while giving the surfer a better taste of what the paysite has to offer. It's always easier to build with a single photo set or two, but that may not be enough to entice surfers. That bonus page really lets them no that there are lot of babes to see, not just the three in the main galleries.

2008-03-31, 12:05 AM	#9
papagmp That'll teach you to leave your sister unattended..... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,803	I'd definitely list it - I too like the bonus page. Nice work Sy. __________________ Submit: OutlawFreePorn

2008-03-31, 01:06 AM	#10
Porn Junkie I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada Eh! Posts: 325	I like it, for the regular LL surfer, it throughs them off from your A-typical FS structure and makes them actually look at the page and the links. __________________ EzAngels EzLinks - Submit here

2008-03-31, 01:46 AM	#11
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,400	I would and only hope you send it my way. If you only have one spot left pick LegalTeenLust, its traffic is better Pick redheads since 2of3 galleries are. LTL has a hairy category as well for those mirrors you talked about in another thread. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Porn Luv Network!

2008-03-31, 04:01 AM	#13
Magix They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 144	Bonus page is nice idea Maybe this will be a new FS v 1.5

2008-03-31, 04:06 AM	#14
japamor I Love Turkish Delight, they're very moreish. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 578	I'd list it. I think that's a nicely balanced site layout. Looks real good. __________________

2008-03-31, 06:59 AM	#15
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	Thanks guys I'd like to be able to make different sites besides the standard 4 page freesites. I know that index page is heavy, but I think the site navigation is pretty clear. Link list surfers know that they have to scroll down to get to the "Enter" link, and this is no different. The difference is, there is no "Enter" link I thought "Main Page" would do just fine, knowing I have links directly to the galleries. Also, as you can see, the galleries are extremely clean and pics are all in one block. I am not here to FUCK the surfers, I want to test different ideas and see what works, what doesn't. I am going to make my next few sites a bit different and submit them to link lists that will list it (if I get a chance to make more sites for myself ). I said it myself on Saturday... Proper advertising is better than aggressive advertising, and yes I know some people might bring that to my face, but I didn't add any extra links to the index page, I just didn't break my ads with warning text or recip table as UW mentioned Keep your comments coming __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-03-31, 07:43 AM	#16
Magix They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 144	you can also post some of your new FS here on board, it's interesting to some new sites coming and that LL owners list them ( well, most of them ). And if you don't mind maybe i can use that bonus site idea ? Something is telling me ( well, maybe i'm wrong, but still) that "the bonus" site could generate some proper sales

2008-03-31, 08:00 AM	#17
spacemanspiff Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Looz-e-anna Posts: 1,015	As usual, nice work Sy. I'd list it. __________________ Submit your free sites to Free Sex Pics

2008-03-31, 10:07 AM	#18
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	Looks like I am only getting listed at 11 link lists so far But not that dissapointed, because I like the site myself __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-03-31, 10:37 AM	#19
Preacher There's Xanax in my thurible! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wherever they screw on my head Posts: 2,441	Sy, I'd list it as well. Nice looking site. __________________ NSCash * This Depraved World

2008-03-31, 10:39 AM	#20
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	I'd list it too Sy __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2008-03-31, 10:43 AM	#21
LeRoy "Young dumb and full of cum" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,370	Looks good CrazySy. I thought version 1.5 has 40-50 recips. __________________ JAPANESE ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAM

2008-03-31, 11:31 AM	#23
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2008-03-31, 11:32 AM	#24
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,788	DAMN YOU SY Now you've got me thinking I have to agree with DDave on the FPA angle (that rule has gotten very bent in the last few years) I really do think that if you moved the warning to under the top banner & cut down on the size of the ad on that page, you'd be fine. Assuming that the ad space on there was decreased & the warning increased, all you'd have is a warning page that links to the galleries as well as the the main page. If you took the MAIN, BONUS, GALLERY 1, 2, 3 text out & put ENTER, EXIT text in there, you'd then have a normal Free Site. I'm confused as to the goal of this design? I can see the increase of ads on the warning page as a replacement for not seeing the main page. I also see no need for those "MAIN PAGE" links as your main page is really the warning page. But maybe you're just presenting an option to eliminate the main page? I'm very __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network