bangbros

[pacman2]

does it really work?

i spent some money on highly targeted niche ads linking to one of the bangbros sites, but no conversions so far, although there was an outstanding ratio of something like 1:16 in the stats here at greenguy. i have also some problems with counting the clicks by bangbros, stats at ad company show me something like 100 clicks for today and bangbros' system displays only 40 or so - does this have something to do with normal / console free link codes? thx

[Greenguy]

I'm 99.44% sure they count 2nd page hits. You can probably look around at other sponsors that count 1st & 2nd & get an idea of what your ratio of 1st to 2nd page clicks are & that might give you a little better idea of what the actual numbers are...or just go by what the ad company shows you.

Plus, 100 hits is not nearly enough to judge if the site is converting or not. You could get a signup and all of a sudden you 1:100 & very happy

[pacman2]

it's 100 hits for today only, similar numbers for few days already but still no success. i am wondering from where comes this 1:13 signup ratio then, which is listed at program stats here in the stats page?

[redglow]

I won't even try to say I know a lot about the adult biz, but it's impossible to compare stats that way. For that to turn out right, you would need the exact same traffic as the site you are comparing your site with, and even then it's not going to be the same.
Would say that a few days is a short time to say anything about your traffic, the clicks to the sponsor and the ratio. It takes time, it takes work to send even better traffic to the sponsor, and before conclude with anything, I'd say, be patient.
If your counter say 100 clicks, and Bangbros counter say 40, then it's the 40 you should be comparing with GG's stats anyway, as his stats are the ones given him by the sponsors.
It can take some time for you see the first signup, and you can get many signups in one day, so give your ratio time before making up your mind about it... And don't look blindly at other peoples stats, two people
do things in different ways, and get different results.... Programs don't turn out the same for evryone.
One thing I've learned in here is that things take time, be patient, and work every day at getting better at what you do...
Good luck, and hang in there

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by pacman2

it's 100 hits for today only, similar numbers for few days already but still no success. i am wondering from where comes this 1:13 signup ratio then, which is listed at program stats here in the stats page?

redglow pretty much summed it up. I'm sure we're marketing the site in different ways and everyone's traffic is different - my traffic is different than your traffic is different than redglow's traffic is different than (insert anyone's name here) traffic.

I don't publish the stats with any kind of guarantee - it's just a list of my stats that others like to use to compare their stats with & maybe find a sponsor or 2 to try out.

Also, what kind of "highly targeted niche ads" can you buy for a tour that pushes a number of sites for one price? If you said you were buying handjob traffic for Tugjobs, that'd be one thing - but I don't think you can do that type of marketing for a multisite tour.

[Tommy]

maybe the Bangbros guys just dont like you for some reason

a long time ago
I was working on a sponsor (a shitty sponsor but I didnt know they were shitty) and I threw up a banner and went to get a few more and like an idiot I checked my stats and ....
I had a sale in the 2 mins I was premoting them
so I threw those banners up everywhere thinking on was on to something really good

a week later I still had one fuckin sale

you want some advise ???
forget the numbers work your sponsors from your checks
after looking over your checks for a month you will have a much better picture of where to invest your time

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Tommy

forget the numbers work your sponsors from your checks

That is such good advice it should be part of a FAQ here.

[SheepGuy]

True! I never really trust a sponsor until I cash a cheque, and it doesn't bounce

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Simon

That is such good advice it should be part of a FAQ here.

It is & it isn't.

Let's pretend there's a mega bondage/fetish sponsor with 10 sites (that's set up the same as Cash Fetish) and look at them against your program. If the webmaster sent 1000 hits to each of the 11 sites & converted at 1:500 overall with the mega sponsor and 1:250 with Cash Fetish, the check from the mega sponsor would be $600 & the check from you would be $120.

But Cash Fetish converts twice as well!

If I just looked at checks, I'd only promote 3 sponsors & a lot of my category pages would be very empty as far as paysite links & banners.

You have to look at EVERYTHING & then use your best judgment

[Simon]

Okay, true, you do have a point there. And actually, I can tell you that as a one-site program, that's one of the reasons I don't try to convince webmasters to push our program/site harder. I understand that most will have an easier time getting bigger checks from programs with lots of sites to promote, and I don't blame anyone for wanting to get bigger checks.

Okay, yeah, you do have to look at everything. But it's hard to discount the value of a big check. Of course, then there's that whole rebill issue, which certainly can change the size of the check as well.

So, to sum up...

1. Do look at everything.
2. Big checks are important.
3. Rebills can be golden too.
4. Need more HD programming.

[Greenguy]

I'd still rather total up the size of 5 checks from smaller programs that convert better

[virgohippy]

I prefer to look at time/energy spent pushing program vs. return in $$$ total.

Traffic, ratios, eh... these things depend on lots of forces. But my time and energy is very limited.

[frankthetank]

Originally Posted by pacman2

does it really work?

i spent some money on highly targeted niche ads linking to one of the bangbros sites, but no conversions so far, although there was an outstanding ratio of something like 1:16 in the stats here at greenguy. i have also some problems with counting the clicks by bangbros, stats at ad company show me something like 100 clicks for today and bangbros' system displays only 40 or so - does this have something to do with normal / console free link codes? thx

I´m dealing with bangbrs for about a year now with tgp paid spots. My ratio for this year (overall) is 1:564, but those are second page clicks.

But bangbros isn´t equal to bangbros. It depends on the site you are promoting. Even traffic from different tgp´s doesn´t convert in the same way for, let´s say streetranger.com. On some tgp´s the site converts well, on others it doesn´t.

Gallery design makes a difference, too. And last but not least the content on your galleries is another important thing to have a look at.

Though you are running banner ads instead of gallery spots, you should try different sites and monitor your traffic. You need some thousand hits to judge, I´m sure.

[ronnie]

Never said where the ads are from.