Thinking of moving into Mainstream Marketing?

susanna · 2006-10-08, 09:54 AM

Heh gang,

A lot of you know me already, you know I have been around adult marketing for way too many years. I am not going to hype you up on this opportunity. I am just going to tell you that I am able to offer you membership into a club that will give you access to real mainstream marketers.

http://www.mainstreammembers.com is my site that uses the incredible content of mainstream millionaires. The content will be delivered to you on a month by month basis but dont be fooled, the site is stocked to the hilt with stuff you need to know.

I have been studying mainstream now for a year and I am happy to say my earnings are far surpassing anything I made in adult and as some of you know I own a paysite.

The earnings are nothing compared to the way that you can truely build, automate and forget about sites in mainstream. It is getting so hard to build and forget in adult unless you are an seo expert and even then you have to keep on working sites. Every one of you knows the long hours and dwindling profits you are experiencing.

Join http://www.mainstreammembers.com for just one month to see if I am full of shit or not. Its all in one place, you can ignore all the free offers and find what you need to learn from those that are making millions!

This site is not a get rich quick, step one two three, site. Its an informational site which builds your knowledge base. Don't click unless you are willing to put in time to learn, to make sites based on your combined knowledge in adult and in mainstream.

I can tell you that my adult marketing knowledge has done me well but it is this insider knowledge that exponentially increased my earnings!

Susanna

Simon · 2006-10-08, 10:44 AM

One more very important marketing tip... and this one is for free:

If you ever want to really make one of those kinds of deals work for you, make sure to rewrite all the copy they give you so your page doesn't say the same things as, say, all of these sites:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Me...e=off&filter=0

Best of luck with your new path.

docholly · 2006-10-08, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

One more very important marketing tip... and this one is for free:

If you ever want to really make one of those kinds of deals work for you, make sure to rewrite all the copy they give you so your page doesn't say the same things as, say, all of these sites:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Me...e=off&filter=0

Best of luck with your new path.

Good advise from the master of Spam
!!

to Simon.. you know i loves ya.

susanna · 2006-10-08, 11:23 AM

Well unfortunately thats a good message. I have spent a number of days on the text to remove the crap thats not necessary but the rest is all true, I know because the members area is MY members area. I design it as I wish.

You can keep going with links in google. I am not getting my traffic that way so I really dont give a shit about google. I can only attest to the fact that this is a really good system.

Susanna

Lemmy · 2006-10-08, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susanna

I am not going to hype you up on this opportunity.

"incredible content of mainstream millionaires"

"the site is stocked to the hilt with stuff you need to know"

"my earnings are far surpassing anything I made in adult"

"The earnings are nothing compared to the way that you can truely build, automate and forget about sites in mainstream"

"find what you need to learn from those that are making millions!"

"it is this insider knowledge that exponentially increased my earnings!"

No offense, but your site looks like a carbon copy of 100s if not 1000s of other incredible-opportunity/network marketing/what-have-you sites out there. What's really incredible is that you can offer this after only "studying mainstream now for a year".

susanna · 2006-10-08, 12:35 PM

Lemmy

If you read every word you will see that I am saying its not my content but I get to use the content. I have to have my own processing, my own domain and marketing plan. My plan includes this page you are looking at that models one of the biggest marketing tools of mainstream... a sales letter. Of course that page is going to be revamped a million times but what does that matter? you have to at some point trust that you should give it a try.

Would the offer be better if I made it so unique you wouldnt be able to google it? I also hate a sales letter but thats because I come from where you come from but I can also tell you that sales letters work. I hate that I was wrong on that!

What this site is is a portal site to content that I did not make but I have purchased. Is that different then a paysite that has the same content as 50 other paysites? Is that different then me selling an affiliate link and getting you to join into the master site?

Yes it is different. I get to modify the inside index pages. I get to add my spin on things. I get to tell you the quick path thru all this. Its my pages with their content. The only thing I have not done so far is completely change the text on the sales letter. Does that make the content any less? nope.

Woohooo you all know how to use google! way to go!

Want to learn how to make money in mainstream now?

Lemmy · 2006-10-08, 01:04 PM

You're absolutely right, I didn't take the time to study your proposal in detail. A quick glance was enough to tell me I've seen it in various incarnations a 1000 times before. If what your selling isn't the opportunity to sell the opportunity to sell the opportunity etc etc, and all of these people are making their millions by marketing real products of real value I apologize. I guess the references to Brian Tracy and the other self-help gurus had me thinking of something else.

susanna · 2006-10-08, 01:22 PM

Lemmy I am not selling the opportunity to make millions, I am selling the opportunity to learn from people who are making millions. Your mileage is going to be different.

Highest energy wins! You put the energy into your learning opportunities and impliment what you learn and you have a shot at making some very decent coin.

I have purchased a number of expensive tutorials in the last year, I am not talking about ebooks either. The result? This monthly opportunity would have saved me a lot of that cost.

Everyone has their own comfort level with the amount of learning they need to do and the amount of trial and error they need to do.

There isnt an opportunity in mainstream that you couldnt google to see many many other people marketing in the exact same way. Maybe with articles and maybe with affiliate links.

Not really sure what your point is Lemmy other then you seem to think opportunity is bad? that me offering the same opportunity that you can get thru someone else is bad? please keep posting until I understand what your issues are?

swedguy · 2006-10-08, 02:21 PM

No matter if you guys want to bash on Susanna's copy or not, mainstream is good. Period.

On thing Susanna, some of the stuff on your site looks a bit off in FireFox.

susanna · 2006-10-08, 02:55 PM

Thanks Swedguy. I have to work on that page. obviously ;o)

Lemmy · 2006-10-08, 04:16 PM

I really don't know the first thing about your opportunity Susanna, but looking at how you present it, it doesn't distinguish itself from 100s of other so-called "opportunities" out there, the majority of which are probably just technicalities away from being scams.

I'm not saying that what you are doing is a scam, and if you've found "the real thing" and it's working, best of luck to you, I hope you make millions. But of all the people out there that are apparently making truckloads of cash I find it strange that they 1) are willing to tell me their secrets in the first place if what they are doing is so lucrative, and 2) that their only selling points are empty phrases that have been repeated so many times their meaning is devalued to zero. It's almost as if it has become an industry in itself to sell opportunities.

virgohippy · 2006-10-08, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemmy

It's almost as if it has become an industry in itself to sell opportunities.

When was the last time you walked down the "business & investement" section of your local book store?

susanna · 2006-10-08, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemmy

I find it strange that they 1) are willing to tell me their secrets in the first place if what they are doing is so lucrative, and 2) that their only selling points are empty phrases that have been repeated so many times their meaning is devalued to zero. It's almost as if it has become an industry in itself to sell opportunities.

First point 1...there seems to be a trend in mainstream that after making millions they do one of two things...sell those tips for a lucrative amount (as I have purchased them) or decide there must be more to life and start to give away your knowledge for what I swear on my mother is truely altruistic reasons. These guys mentioned are selling their knowledge. They can do this a million times over and this is one more product they are producing to sell. Its all about information and what more do they have to sell then how they did it?

2....selling points are empty phrases? ha ha ha thats too funny from a porn marketer. What do you think marketing is? what do you think your text line on your tgp is? Beautiful horny MILF wants to suck your cock dry. Is that true? no. Is that line used a million times to sell MILF porn? yes. Does that make them empty promises? yes.

Its all salesmanship. It either sells you or it doesnt. Now case in point that is not my text I didnt write that sales letter, I did chop off half of the suggested text though. The thing is...its not about the sales letter...its about the opportunity.

I dont go to your free site or your paysite and then tell you heck I dont like how you put that text or your pictures...it would sell me better if it was different.

This thread was about an opportunity, take it or leave it. Not necessary to comment.

virgohippy · 2006-10-08, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susanna

I dont go to your free site or your paysite and then tell you heck I dont like how you put that text or your pictures...it would sell me better if it was different.

This thread was about an opportunity, take it or leave it. Not necessary to comment.

Mabye I missed something here, but you did post this "I'll sell you the right to sell to other people what I'm about to sell to you" opportunity in an adult forum, right?

Just because we work with porn doesn't mean we're fools. Seems to me you invited comments like Lemmy's.

Lemmy · 2006-10-08, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susanna

Not necessary to comment.

So I won't, except for this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by susanna

I dont go to your free site or your paysite and then tell you heck I dont like how you put that text or your pictures...it would sell me better if it was different.

I didn't go to your sales letter, you presented it to me. Thanks, but no thanks.

susanna · 2006-10-08, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virgohippy

Mabye I missed something here, but you did post this "I'll sell you the right to sell to other people what I'm about to sell to you" opportunity in an adult forum, right?

Just because we work with porn doesn't mean we're fools. Seems to me you invited comments like Lemmy's.

Yes you did miss something Virgohippy. I am not selling you the right to sell something to someone else. This is a membership site where you can learn how to market in mainstream. Thru the eyes of those who are successfully doing it.

I didnt say anything about porn marketers being fools (ok maybe some are but thats another story ha ha ha ) in fact if you read my post and sales page I am saying that you will have a distinct advantage over any newbie and dare I say over mainstreamers.

susanna · 2006-10-08, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemmy

So I won't, except for this:
I didn't go to your sales letter, you presented it to me. Thanks, but no thanks.

You present your freesites right there in your signature line!

Is a signature line not an invitation to visit ? I dont feel the urge to tell you that you have spelled "pain" wrong on the first line on that page.

2006-10-08, 09:54 AM	#1
susanna Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 114	Thinking of moving into Mainstream Marketing? Heh gang, A lot of you know me already, you know I have been around adult marketing for way too many years. I am not going to hype you up on this opportunity. I am just going to tell you that I am able to offer you membership into a club that will give you access to real mainstream marketers. http://www.mainstreammembers.com is my site that uses the incredible content of mainstream millionaires. The content will be delivered to you on a month by month basis but dont be fooled, the site is stocked to the hilt with stuff you need to know. I have been studying mainstream now for a year and I am happy to say my earnings are far surpassing anything I made in adult and as some of you know I own a paysite. The earnings are nothing compared to the way that you can truely build, automate and forget about sites in mainstream. It is getting so hard to build and forget in adult unless you are an seo expert and even then you have to keep on working sites. Every one of you knows the long hours and dwindling profits you are experiencing. Join http://www.mainstreammembers.com for just one month to see if I am full of shit or not. Its all in one place, you can ignore all the free offers and find what you need to learn from those that are making millions! This site is not a get rich quick, step one two three, site. Its an informational site which builds your knowledge base. Don't click unless you are willing to put in time to learn, to make sites based on your combined knowledge in adult and in mainstream. I can tell you that my adult marketing knowledge has done me well but it is this insider knowledge that exponentially increased my earnings! Susanna __________________ Susanna

2006-10-08, 10:44 AM	#2
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	A free tip One more very important marketing tip... and this one is for free: If you ever want to really make one of those kinds of deals work for you, make sure to rewrite all the copy they give you so your page doesn't say the same things as, say, all of these sites: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Me...e=off&filter=0 Best of luck with your new path. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2006-10-08, 11:23 AM	#4
susanna Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 114	Well unfortunately thats a good message. I have spent a number of days on the text to remove the crap thats not necessary but the rest is all true, I know because the members area is MY members area. I design it as I wish. You can keep going with links in google. I am not getting my traffic that way so I really dont give a shit about google. I can only attest to the fact that this is a really good system. Susanna __________________ Susanna

2006-10-08, 12:35 PM	#6
susanna Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 114	Lemmy If you read every word you will see that I am saying its not my content but I get to use the content. I have to have my own processing, my own domain and marketing plan. My plan includes this page you are looking at that models one of the biggest marketing tools of mainstream... a sales letter. Of course that page is going to be revamped a million times but what does that matter? you have to at some point trust that you should give it a try. Would the offer be better if I made it so unique you wouldnt be able to google it? I also hate a sales letter but thats because I come from where you come from but I can also tell you that sales letters work. I hate that I was wrong on that! What this site is is a portal site to content that I did not make but I have purchased. Is that different then a paysite that has the same content as 50 other paysites? Is that different then me selling an affiliate link and getting you to join into the master site? Yes it is different. I get to modify the inside index pages. I get to add my spin on things. I get to tell you the quick path thru all this. Its my pages with their content. The only thing I have not done so far is completely change the text on the sales letter. Does that make the content any less? nope. Woohooo you all know how to use google! way to go! Want to learn how to make money in mainstream now? __________________ Susanna

2006-10-08, 01:04 PM	#7
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	You're absolutely right, I didn't take the time to study your proposal in detail. A quick glance was enough to tell me I've seen it in various incarnations a 1000 times before. If what your selling isn't the opportunity to sell the opportunity to sell the opportunity etc etc, and all of these people are making their millions by marketing real products of real value I apologize. I guess the references to Brian Tracy and the other self-help gurus had me thinking of something else. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-10-08, 01:22 PM	#8
susanna Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 114	Lemmy I am not selling the opportunity to make millions, I am selling the opportunity to learn from people who are making millions. Your mileage is going to be different. Highest energy wins! You put the energy into your learning opportunities and impliment what you learn and you have a shot at making some very decent coin. I have purchased a number of expensive tutorials in the last year, I am not talking about ebooks either. The result? This monthly opportunity would have saved me a lot of that cost. Everyone has their own comfort level with the amount of learning they need to do and the amount of trial and error they need to do. There isnt an opportunity in mainstream that you couldnt google to see many many other people marketing in the exact same way. Maybe with articles and maybe with affiliate links. Not really sure what your point is Lemmy other then you seem to think opportunity is bad? that me offering the same opportunity that you can get thru someone else is bad? please keep posting until I understand what your issues are? __________________ Susanna

2006-10-08, 02:21 PM	#9
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	No matter if you guys want to bash on Susanna's copy or not, mainstream is good. Period. On thing Susanna, some of the stuff on your site looks a bit off in FireFox.

2006-10-08, 02:55 PM	#10
susanna Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 114	Thanks Swedguy. I have to work on that page. obviously ;o) __________________ Susanna

2006-10-08, 04:16 PM	#11
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I really don't know the first thing about your opportunity Susanna, but looking at how you present it, it doesn't distinguish itself from 100s of other so-called "opportunities" out there, the majority of which are probably just technicalities away from being scams. I'm not saying that what you are doing is a scam, and if you've found "the real thing" and it's working, best of luck to you, I hope you make millions. But of all the people out there that are apparently making truckloads of cash I find it strange that they 1) are willing to tell me their secrets in the first place if what they are doing is so lucrative, and 2) that their only selling points are empty phrases that have been repeated so many times their meaning is devalued to zero. It's almost as if it has become an industry in itself to sell opportunities. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!