Diversifying Your Income Stream - Page 2

MrYum · 2006-02-03, 11:54 AM

Um yea, I'm sure most people would have gotten the Anonymous reference...not. Doesn't really matter at this point though...male or female...your reputation in this industry has taken a significant hit through your own doing

As to the program...aw fuck it...I got better things to do than waste any further energy on this crap. Fortunately, it would appear that most of my peers on this board are smart enough to see through it.

Oh...surprise surprise...frozen assets...duh.

DangerDave · 2006-02-03, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Omness

Right now, this whole thing is moot. The program uses Stormpay as a payment processor, and Stormpay froze its accounts yesterday, along with those of a bunch of other businesses. Stormpay is not responding to any questions about the freeze, but there are hints coming out that the Feds are there following some money trails they picked up when they raided the eGold payment processor in December. Until that issue comes to a resolution, you can't join the program even if you wanted to.

Translation without the use of BabelFish..

The hole thing has fallen over and no one is gonna get paid

I believe that was predicted in the very first page/thread

DD

RawAlex · 2006-02-03, 07:10 PM

I want to laugh, but I guess that would be impolite and be right up there with "neener-neener" and "I told you so".

Alex

Surfn · 2006-02-03, 07:15 PM

The shock and awe of it has my heart going pitty pat

MrYum · 2006-02-03, 09:24 PM

Yea, as much as I don't want to think about a MAN letting his daughter dumpster dive again...I sincerely hope he doesn't see a dime of that $16k.

However, I wouldn't mind at all hearing about MR ANN in vile refuse up to his knees scrounging for dinner

suddenlysex · 2006-02-03, 09:39 PM

Looks like it's back to dumpster diving for your daughter then?

Wazza · 2006-02-04, 07:05 PM

I can see an apple on a table and say "that's an apple on a table"

I can see a program that pays 12% per day for viewing a few websites and say "that's a ponzi scheme"

No libel, no slander, just calling an apple an apple...

And I still say you should be ashamed of yourself - attempting to lure people into this shabby scam. You've got a fucking hide, you truly do!

Linkster · 2006-02-05, 07:10 AM

The reason that the program is frozen is that ABC did a series of shows on this program and a few others that Stormpay was involved with noting that they were all ponzi schemes and the FBI is involved tracking down all people that were running it and involved with making money on it - although from what ABC has just put out in the lst day or so it was just three people running a scheme and since it was done outside the normal banking processes that normally back a business like this for "loans" it has been shutdown. I wouldnt expect to see any money back from them for a long time (if ever)

Ann Omness · 2006-02-05, 03:37 PM

Thanks Linkster. I wish I'd seen the programs. I just did a search at ABC News and found no reference to Stormpay. I question whether ABC's report was accurate, though, because none of the companies who had their accounts frozen have been contacted yet by any authorities. With hundreds of millions of dollars frozen, they would have been at the doors of the companies within hours after freezing their accounts. I don't think there really is any sort of official investigation going on. I think Stormpay found itself in trouble when the program I'm in requested a transfer of a quarter of their money to their bank, and Stormpay didn't have enough reserves to cover it. All of Stormpay's allegations and actions since then have been panic.

swedguy · 2006-02-05, 04:20 PM

12 Daily Pro Shuts Down; Investors Wait For Money

http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local...C-27BDC4253EF0

Torn Rose · 2006-02-05, 04:42 PM

"Here's Storm Pay's explanation:

"Investigations by both Storm Pay and other outside investigational organizations and law enforcement agencies have drawn early conclusions that these types of programs are nothing more than well hidden ponzi or pyramid schemes."

huh.... whodathunkit?

MrYum · 2006-02-05, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn

"Here's Storm Pay's explanation:

"Investigations by both Storm Pay and other outside investigational organizations and law enforcement agencies have drawn early conclusions that these types of programs are nothing more than well hidden ponzi or pyramid schemes."

huh.... whodathunkit?

WHAAAAT??? |shocking|

Very weak Mr Ann...you really should be ashamed of yourself for trying to drag fellow webmasters into that sham. But then again, you're a father who let his daughter dumpster dive...guess attempting to screw webmasters was an easy transition

Halfdeck · 2006-02-05, 11:40 PM

http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/ponzi/

I guess history does repeat itself.

msanchez · 2006-02-06, 01:40 AM

nice reading on that link halfdeck thanks

Toby · 2006-02-06, 03:54 AM

Shhhh, everyone quiet for minute and listen....

....yup just as I thought, the proverbial fat lady is singing. I do believe the opera is pretty much over.

Wazza · 2006-02-06, 05:43 AM

I didn't know "I fought the law, and the law won" was an opera

Useless · 2006-02-06, 09:42 AM

“Mama, put my guns in the ground, I can’t shoot them anymore”

MrYum · 2006-02-06, 10:49 AM

Quote:

What may be more disturbing is the fact that some 12 Daily Pro members have actually told ABC4 News they "don't care" where the money comes from.

Sounds like they spoke to Mr Ann.

Ahh yes, the fat lady does have a beautiful voice

odysseus · 2006-02-06, 11:15 AM

I've stayed out of this because of the drama. But I have to say to Ann Onmess that I stopped submitting to your link list after reading half of the first page of the first thread you wrote on this. Now, I'm just a small fry and my free sites may not mean much but all I could think is "Damn, no one is going to want to have thier recip on the same page as hers/his." So, I pulled you right out of my submission routine. I have to wonder why you didn't consider how this would affect your working relationships with people on the board here. How many people won't work with you now?

Oh well, I'll crawl back into thread reading mode now. Don't want to keep beating the dead horse.

docholly · 2006-02-06, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odysseus

I've stayed out of this because of the drama. But I have to say to Ann Onmess that I stopped submitting to your link list after reading half of the first page of the first thread you wrote on this.

Ditto..removed from my list of sites since then as well.

...*not that i've submitted diddly lately *flashing eyes at tart**

fetish1 · 2006-02-07, 02:05 PM

LOL

"By the account of both supporters and detractors, 12DailyPro is multimillion dollar internet auto-surf company with well over 300,000 members worldwide. And now it's administrator, Charis Johnson of Charlotte, North Carolina is asking for more money -- a donation, not an "investment". She is collecting funds from those who remain loyal to her and the company for a "legal defense fund". As of Sunday night, Johnson says she's collected enough to cover "34%" of the retainer required by her lawyers."

Full story here: http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local...1-A420E88575FC

Wonder if Mr Ann is planning on sending part of his earnings to help them out?

Ramster · 2006-02-07, 02:46 PM

odysseus, I'm with you. I too lost all respect.

docholly · 2006-02-07, 03:15 PM

|shocking| dammit!! I needed a new get rich quick scheme where I didn't have to do anything but log on and let my computer auto-surf.

What do you want to be when you grow up? A dumpster diving auto surfer, Dad. Just like you.

LowryBigwood · 2006-02-07, 03:16 PM

Damn. Crazy shit. Welp... It's not a big surprise to me either. I don't know Ann personally, but I am amazed that this thread was even started to begin with.

Note To Self - Don't try to recruit GG&Jim members into a pyramid scheme.

Ann Omness · 2006-02-07, 03:33 PM

Swedguy, Torn: The information Stormpay gave to ABC News, and the spin ABC put on it, is not accurate. 12 Daily suspended operations entirely because Stormpay seized their funds. Stormpay claims it is the result of an investigation done by their bank. I called Stormpay's bank yesterday and talked to a vice president there. She said the bank is not aware of any investigation into 12 Daily, that the freeze on their funds was entirely an action of Stormpay. No government investigators have contacted 12 Daily, a whole week after their accounts were frozen. Nothing that Stormpay is claiming is turning out to be true. I think it's all a smokescreen to cover the fact that they didn't have enough funds in their account to cover a big withdrawal.

2006-02-03, 11:54 AM	#26
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Um yea, I'm sure most people would have gotten the Anonymous reference...not. Doesn't really matter at this point though...male or female...your reputation in this industry has taken a significant hit through your own doing As to the program...aw fuck it...I got better things to do than waste any further energy on this crap. Fortunately, it would appear that most of my peers on this board are smart enough to see through it. Oh...surprise surprise...frozen assets...duh. __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2006-02-03, 07:15 PM	#29
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	The shock and awe of it has my heart going pitty pat __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-02-03, 09:24 PM	#30
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Yea, as much as I don't want to think about a MAN letting his daughter dumpster dive again...I sincerely hope he doesn't see a dime of that $16k. However, I wouldn't mind at all hearing about MR ANN in vile refuse up to his knees scrounging for dinner __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2006-02-03, 09:39 PM	#31
suddenlysex A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 51	Looks like it's back to dumpster diving for your daughter then? __________________ Phone Sex

2006-02-04, 07:05 PM	#32
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	I can see an apple on a table and say "that's an apple on a table" I can see a program that pays 12% per day for viewing a few websites and say "that's a ponzi scheme" No libel, no slander, just calling an apple an apple... And I still say you should be ashamed of yourself - attempting to lure people into this shabby scam. You've got a fucking hide, you truly do! __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2006-02-03, 07:10 PM	#28
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I want to laugh, but I guess that would be impolite and be right up there with "neener-neener" and "I told you so". Alex

2006-02-05, 07:10 AM	#33
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	The reason that the program is frozen is that ABC did a series of shows on this program and a few others that Stormpay was involved with noting that they were all ponzi schemes and the FBI is involved tracking down all people that were running it and involved with making money on it - although from what ABC has just put out in the lst day or so it was just three people running a scheme and since it was done outside the normal banking processes that normally back a business like this for "loans" it has been shutdown. I wouldnt expect to see any money back from them for a long time (if ever) __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-02-05, 03:37 PM	#34
Ann Omness If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 308	Thanks Linkster. I wish I'd seen the programs. I just did a search at ABC News and found no reference to Stormpay. I question whether ABC's report was accurate, though, because none of the companies who had their accounts frozen have been contacted yet by any authorities. With hundreds of millions of dollars frozen, they would have been at the doors of the companies within hours after freezing their accounts. I don't think there really is any sort of official investigation going on. I think Stormpay found itself in trouble when the program I'm in requested a transfer of a quarter of their money to their bank, and Stormpay didn't have enough reserves to cover it. All of Stormpay's allegations and actions since then have been panic. __________________ Blue Wave Adult Links www.bluewavelinks.com/

2006-02-05, 04:20 PM	#35
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	12 Daily Pro Shuts Down; Investors Wait For Money http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local...C-27BDC4253EF0

2006-02-05, 04:42 PM	#36
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	"Here's Storm Pay's explanation: "Investigations by both Storm Pay and other outside investigational organizations and law enforcement agencies have drawn early conclusions that these types of programs are nothing more than well hidden ponzi or pyramid schemes." huh.... whodathunkit?

2006-02-05, 11:40 PM	#38
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/ponzi/ I guess history does repeat itself. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

2006-02-06, 01:40 AM	#39
msanchez It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Thumb Posts: 484	nice reading on that link halfdeck thanks __________________ I buy text links, clicked traffic, blog posts, and more! Hit me with a pm.

2006-02-06, 03:54 AM	#40
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Shhhh, everyone quiet for minute and listen.... ....yup just as I thought, the proverbial fat lady is singing. I do believe the opera is pretty much over. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2006-02-06, 05:43 AM	#41
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	I didn't know "I fought the law, and the law won" was an opera __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2006-02-06, 09:42 AM	#42
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2006-02-06, 11:15 AM	#44
odysseus Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 101	I've stayed out of this because of the drama. But I have to say to Ann Onmess that I stopped submitting to your link list after reading half of the first page of the first thread you wrote on this. Now, I'm just a small fry and my free sites may not mean much but all I could think is "Damn, no one is going to want to have thier recip on the same page as hers/his." So, I pulled you right out of my submission routine. I have to wonder why you didn't consider how this would affect your working relationships with people on the board here. How many people won't work with you now? Oh well, I'll crawl back into thread reading mode now. Don't want to keep beating the dead horse. __________________ Eric

2006-02-07, 02:05 PM	#46
fetish1 Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Dakota AKA Frozen Hell Posts: 401	LOL "By the account of both supporters and detractors, 12DailyPro is multimillion dollar internet auto-surf company with well over 300,000 members worldwide. And now it's administrator, Charis Johnson of Charlotte, North Carolina is asking for more money -- a donation, not an "investment". She is collecting funds from those who remain loyal to her and the company for a "legal defense fund". As of Sunday night, Johnson says she's collected enough to cover "34%" of the retainer required by her lawyers." Full story here: http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local...1-A420E88575FC Wonder if Mr Ann is planning on sending part of his earnings to help them out? __________________ Paul Markham Content

2006-02-07, 02:46 PM	#47
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2006-02-07, 03:15 PM	#48
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2006-02-07, 03:16 PM	#49
LowryBigwood Don't get discouraged; it's usually the last key that opens the lock... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,203	Damn. Crazy shit. Welp... It's not a big surprise to me either. I don't know Ann personally, but I am amazed that this thread was even started to begin with. Note To Self - Don't try to recruit GG&Jim members into a pyramid scheme. __________________ Free Porn Buddy \| Porn Buddy Blog

2006-02-07, 03:33 PM	#50
Ann Omness If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 308	Swedguy, Torn: The information Stormpay gave to ABC News, and the spin ABC put on it, is not accurate. 12 Daily suspended operations entirely because Stormpay seized their funds. Stormpay claims it is the result of an investigation done by their bank. I called Stormpay's bank yesterday and talked to a vice president there. She said the bank is not aware of any investigation into 12 Daily, that the freeze on their funds was entirely an action of Stormpay. No government investigators have contacted 12 Daily, a whole week after their accounts were frozen. Nothing that Stormpay is claiming is turning out to be true. I think it's all a smokescreen to cover the fact that they didn't have enough funds in their account to cover a big withdrawal. __________________ Blue Wave Adult Links www.bluewavelinks.com/