NHL agrees to deal

Torn Rose · 2005-07-13, 01:12 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2106776

The expected salary cap will likely have a ceiling approaching $40 million and a minimum somewhere between $20 million and $25 million.

Player salaries will not exceed 54 percent of league-wide revenues

Toby · 2005-07-13, 01:22 PM

OK, refresh my memory. Just exactly WHY couldn't the players association agree to this 12 months ago?

guitar riff · 2005-07-13, 01:22 PM

hockey is pretty much fucked now anyway they lost alot of fans over this shutout

pornrex · 2005-07-13, 01:58 PM

I was born in Boston (big hockey town) and grew up in Toronto (another big hockey town) and to be quite honest, I don't care about NHL anymore. It would take years (if ever) to get me to come back.

I much rather prefer NFL, NBA, and MLB all in that order. These three leagues have their houses in order and realize you can't abused the fan base - case closed.

ArtWilliams · 2005-07-13, 02:09 PM

Hockey's been shit since Dave Keon left for the Whalers!

Trev · 2005-07-13, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornrex

I was born in Boston (big hockey town) and grew up in Toronto (another big hockey town) and to be quite honest, I don't care about NHL anymore. It would take years (if ever) to get me to come back.

I much rather prefer NFL, NBA, and MLB all in that order. These three leagues have their houses in order and realize you can't abused the fan base - case closed.

ummm Have you MET, MLB?

Yankees 205mil team salary, to many work stopages (we won't even talk about '94 (I believe it was) )) roid monsters, nowthe incredible shrinking players, interleague play, the TOO, unblanced schedule, etc...

If I wasn't a life long Indians fan, I wouldn't bother with them at all.

As for hockey.. we used to have 2 teams here, they both left. No one cared. We now have a minor league team... no one cares. It may move... no one cares. Sad to say.

pornrex · 2005-07-13, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev

ummm Have you MET, MLB?

Yankees 205mil team salary, to many work stopages (we won't even talk about '94 (I believe it was) )) roid monsters, nowthe incredible shrinking players, interleague play, the TOO, unblanced schedule, etc...

If I wasn't a life long Indians fan, I wouldn't bother with them at all.

As for hockey.. we used to have 2 teams here, they both left. No one cared. We now have a minor league team... no one cares. It may move... no one cares. Sad to say.

Baseball learned their lesson back in 1994 and they simply can't afford anymore stupid strikes or lockouts. I don't think you'll see them ever strike again. As far as the Yankees are concerned that is a totally different topic altogether. Has their massive payroll got them a massive win-loss ratio? No it has not. That's the beauty of MLB: You can still watch a good game and you can still see things that just aren't supposed to be, by natural order of selection.

With the NHL lockout, the league lost ALL credibility especially with the players, I don't care what anyone says really.
They ruined the league and the owners not only got what they wanted but its the OWNERS that will repair it after they broke it.
When I read about losers like Roenick, and Chelios piping up and blaming Betman for all that is wrong with the league, it makes me laugh. What fools, what idiots.

Jim · 2005-07-13, 03:42 PM

Son of a Bitch...I was enjoying life without Hockey

Toby · 2005-07-13, 03:47 PM

Might still be more or less the same, ESPN dropped them, might only get games on local stations next season.

Ramster · 2005-07-13, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby

OK, refresh my memory. Just exactly WHY couldn't the players association agree to this 12 months ago?

Because the players believed they were worth more than they are and tried to bluff. But the owners called their bluff and said No Cap, No Season.

Now the players will be playing for less. It sucks for them and they ALL know it but that's life now and they must move on.

Trev · 2005-07-13, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramster

Because the players believed they were worth more than they are and tried to bluff. But the owners called their bluff and said No Cap, No Season.

Now the players will be playing for less. It sucks for them and they ALL know it but that's life now and they must move on.

Now we just need baseball to do the same, and for the media to stop acting like if it's not NY, boston, chicago, or cali, it doesn't matter.

SirMoby · 2005-07-13, 04:28 PM

I'm still a big fan of the non-professional leagues. In Minneapolis I could get tickets for $3 a seat and watch Daryl Strawberry hit 3 home runs when he was suspended by the pros. Most of the players were college kids and retired ball players that wanted to play and that's what they did. They laughed, they talked to the fans and they played damn good ball

RawAlex · 2005-07-13, 07:37 PM

The NHL and players (mostly the players) blew it big time. They have lost their US TV deal, and lost the attention of the media and such in the US.

The players blew it really bad. Not only did they agree to what they said they would never agree to (salary capping) but have ended up having to agree to play for LESS than they were in the past. They got significantly less than they would have gotten if they had agreed to the league proposals earlier in the process when last season could have been saved.

LIstening to local talk radio today, I can tell you that probably 50% of the people are saying they will never go to another game, and the other 50% say they MIGHT go back, but mostly to laugh at the arrogant, spoiled children paid millions to play a child's game.

The NHL may never recover from this blow.

Surfn · 2005-07-13, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

Son of a Bitch...I was enjoying life without Hockey

Amen to that.

Erick G · 2005-07-13, 08:44 PM

GO SENS GO!
born n raised in ottawa then moved to the states 9 years ago
now i live for nhl center ice

Erick G · 2005-07-13, 08:49 PM

How about they base the salary on performance?
You get paid 5 mil to play and you perform like shit you give money back for playing like an asshat

Im all for that.. and ROENICK and his jackass coments to the media.. enjoy the paycut..

tjchuck · 2005-07-13, 11:00 PM

What the fuck were the players thinking? |badidea|

RawAlex · 2005-07-13, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tjchuck

What the fuck were the players thinking? |badidea|

Toby · 2005-07-14, 12:13 AM

"Don't think, it can only hurt the ball club." ~ Crash Davis

smoo · 2005-07-14, 11:46 AM

i'd rather watch figure skating. the devils will win it all anyway.

dareutwo · 2005-07-14, 01:39 PM

Nearly all of the restaurants around the Excel center in St. Paul (Mn - Wild) have closed. They have no intentions of re-opening.
So I guess all the rich, prissy suburbanites around the Twin Cities will have to brown bag it to the games.
When they start to figure that out, their base will be cut in half easily.
So, they'll go out to eat near home, have a few beers, figure out they aren't even on TV, and go home.
I don't give a crap, the Cities are 5 hours from here. But we get every single Twins, Vikings, and T-Wolves games on cable.

Good Luck NHL - you took a profitable business and turned it into penny stock.

Greenguy · 2005-07-14, 06:07 PM

When I read this thread the other day, I was of the "who the fuck cares" mind set.

But I was flipping thru the channels last night & they played Game 6 of the 1975 Stanley Cup Finals where Philly beat Buffalo & it brought back a lot of good memories as far as why I used to love hockey to much.

Seeing Perrault, Martin & Robert skate around with their luscious mid 70's haircuts & Rick Dudley looking like a homeless guy wearing a terry-cloth headband made me feel all warm inside

terry · 2005-07-14, 09:28 PM

301 days.. incredible.

2005-07-13, 01:12 PM	#1
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2005-07-13, 01:22 PM	#3
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2005-07-13, 07:37 PM	#13
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	The NHL and players (mostly the players) blew it big time. They have lost their US TV deal, and lost the attention of the media and such in the US. The players blew it really bad. Not only did they agree to what they said they would never agree to (salary capping) but have ended up having to agree to play for LESS than they were in the past. They got significantly less than they would have gotten if they had agreed to the league proposals earlier in the process when last season could have been saved. LIstening to local talk radio today, I can tell you that probably 50% of the people are saying they will never go to another game, and the other 50% say they MIGHT go back, but mostly to laugh at the arrogant, spoiled children paid millions to play a child's game. The NHL may never recover from this blow.

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Erick G Look maah I moved out and got my own space:) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 555	How about they base the salary on performance? You get paid 5 mil to play and you perform like shit you give money back for playing like an asshat Im all for that.. and ROENICK and his jackass coments to the media.. enjoy the paycut.. __________________ Exclusive Feeds

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