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2003-11-01, 08:23 PM | #1 |
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What is needed to create paysite
I am interested in starting a paysite.
I did it once and it failed miserbly. except now i know a lot more then before! so i got a few questions if anyone can help. what content is needed? is it neccasary to have a company? how much would i need to start it? what is the best way to promote it? |
2003-11-01, 08:26 PM | #2 |
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2003-11-01, 09:42 PM | #3 |
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That is a HUGE question that I don't think can be answered in one post, but I can shed some light on your questions
"what content is needed?" I'm not quite sure if you're asking what kind of content or how much content, but I will say one thing - movies & live web cams are very, very important. With more & more surfers getting on cable or DSL, they do expect to see moves & live feeds "is it neccasary to have a company?" No, but it is wise to have a company (and for many reasons other than having a paysite) "how much would i need to start it?" Cash? That all depends on what you can & can't do. You will need cash for one thing & that's content (regardless of if you buy it or shoot it yourself) If you can do graphics & whatnot, you can make the site yourself, so that's just an investment in time. "what is the best way to promote it?" The same way you promote other peoples sites - plus open a webm,aster program so that others can promote it as well |
2003-11-02, 08:34 AM | #4 |
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I would like to add a couple of things here for ya. I have had paysite(s) for a few years now, and I can honestly tell you this. They are not for the faint of heart. You have to ask a few more questions then what you have stated here.
Are you prepared to fail? ( i know that sounds jaded, but the fact is paysites in the surfers view are a dime a dozen, and the failure rate is very high. Make sure you have plenty of contigency plans in place before ya kick the doors open) Just how saturated is the market your going to be targetting? (for instance, Amateur sells well right? run a search on the search engine of your choice, see how many listings there are for, say, Amateur Sex, Amateur Movies etc) most people at this stage will just stare at their screen and blink........its understandable. What do you really know about promoting your site? Both to surfers & affiliates? This is a toughy, honest to gawd, i stumble here still. how much of your promo stuff will you have up on launch day? if i could do everything over again, and I can't. I would have 30-60 TGP/MGP galleries built, 30-60 free sites built, Good SE submission tools bookmarked, a HUGE TGP/MGP hand submit list and whatever else I was planning on using for promotion uploaded and ready to go before I had the join page designed. How high are your expectations? and what factual information do you base it on? Oh if you only knew how many times i was gonna be a millionaire----no seriously, I was one of those "Gonna be Larry Flynt rich" thinkers, Guess what, I have seen what to a lot of people would be big bucks (less than frog farts to others) but i have yet to turn my first MIL. When I do, I'll let everyone know. Its been my experience that you should plan on making 0 profit in the first 6 months. Can you make a profit a hell of a lot sooner??? sure, stranger things could happen, AH nold could become govenor(sp) for crying out loud. But I would say, play it safe and work your finances for a slow start. It isn't as easy these days to break into the paysite game like it was 3-4 years ago. I don't mean to come off shitty, but i really think having a paysite isn't a hobby or for hobbiest, and no I am not saying thats what you are, i dont know you. But I think anyone planning on getting into that part of the biz should have realistic plans and expectations, and approach it the same way you would a doughnut show in a strip mall. Ask yourself all the pertanent questions, and answer them to your own satisfaction before you invest dollar number one. This i just my views on the opening of a paysite, and I trying to give some insight. I'm not attacking or belittling you. please take this in that light. spaz |
2003-11-02, 10:37 AM | #5 |
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Good advice here.
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2003-11-02, 07:11 PM | #6 |
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This article by Bill at PMB is really quite old, but I like it
http://www.pornmegabucks.com/articles/paysites.htm You may also want to read these articles: http://pornresource.com/Articles/paysitegameplan0.shtm http://www.theadultwebmaster.com/art...e_vs_pay.phtml http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=1085 Researching everything *really* helps. You need to start a file and look up as much information as you can on everything you can possibly think of. Also need to compare prices and find out specs for: Hosting: which host, server space, how much bandwidth, how much are you prepared to pay... CC Processing (are you in the US or Europe? If not, give up NOW) Content: which plugins, which movies, which pics... and how will you deal with Acacia if they come knocking on your door And as people have already said, you have to work hard and know that a paysite is kinda like a baby. You have to look after it, can't just leave it to fend for itself...
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2003-11-02, 08:09 PM | #7 |
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On the content side, you need content that will fit your target audience. Dont buy glamour, magazine style content, if you run an amateur site. Simple, put extand that to more depths.
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2003-11-03, 10:16 AM | #8 |
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also, don't forget design...get the best you can afford as it will be worth it in the long run.
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2003-11-03, 11:16 AM | #9 |
Internet! Is that thing still around?
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I'll toss in my 2 Cents, cuz I just went through this entire process...
Setting up a paysite program, takes an enormous amount of time and effort... much more than you ever think about when you start out... three to four months of work before you even think about having things promoted... ;-) Content is certainly a must.. but REGULARLY UPDATED content is a necessity if you want retention.... showing regular updates, be it photo sets, or movies, shows membership that the program is actually run by 'real people' and adds a lot to the 'percieved value' they are getting... they know they have someone around to ask questions of, and get answers from... along those lines.. make communitcaion with membership EXTREMELY EASY for them. Don't hide cancel links, dont hide email links to the Webmaster.. be up front, show them you are accessible, and you will have a much more loyal and confident membership... Webmasters want tools.... LOTS of tools for promotion.. keep adding them... banners, galleries, content, table ads, FPA's, whatever they need. Be responsive to your affiliates.. they are your lifeblood.... ;-)
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2003-11-03, 02:32 PM | #10 |
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I would say the most important thing you need is cash and lots of it. Everything else you can buy: traffic, content, design.
BUT...it helps a lot if you can do one or more of the three things above yourself, especially if you can provide all or most of the traffic to your paysite from your own sites. Design and content are cheap by comparison. ---- On a separate note, I'd say you need to offer something unique to the surfer if you want to be successful. And it needs to be unique to webmasters too if you expect to sign up affiliates. We started our company with an Asian facial movie site because there wasn't any competition in that niche and it was a niche that we knew there would be a large audience for.
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2003-11-03, 04:20 PM | #11 |
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