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Programming till my fingers bleed.
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Exactly and if he harvested E-mails from the boards, or whatever method then he sure as shit knew what he was doing. Most newbies wouldn't just run right into harvesting e-mails I wouldn't think. Just for the shear fact the way he handled himself from day 1 with sending me garbage I would never trade with him. |
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2004-11-29, 06:01 PM
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Despite also being spammed by this person... the emails had nothing to do with my decision/opinion.
It is the SE practices of this person that make them a bad(and risky) link partner. Don't just link blindly for PR! Investigate your links swaps! Be suspect of people that never post urls publically! Look at who "ISN'T" linking to the person that wants the swap.. it will tell you alot about them [added] This post is "my opinion" - each of you is entitled to your own, and of course you are free to swap links with whoever you decide. DD
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2004-12-01, 12:30 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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Hmmm... very dissapointed and I still don't quite know what to say here...
But I will get back to it... Acidmax... you already have a few trades... generous trades in fact... You want them removed I assume? |
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2004-12-01, 04:35 PM
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My opinion is still the same as it was in May when this thread started - he gets bashed on the board & called out on his legitimacy & replys with borderline spam? Come on! |
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2004-12-01, 04:41 PM
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Programming till my fingers bleed.
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2004-12-01, 05:20 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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You do need a clue Acidmax but I aint giving them away for free today..
You said you don't want trade with me (Rocco does all my trades) I can see about 100 spots WE have you linked from... and they look pretty generous toward you? You are aware you have these links arent you acidmax? |
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2004-12-01, 05:46 PM
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Programming till my fingers bleed.
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Sounds like you are taking shit personal. Anyhow feel free to e-mail me at webmaster@smutlinks.net and we can take down the trades if you wish. Then you don't have to worry about giving me a clue.
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2004-12-01, 08:10 PM
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Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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100% agree with opti.
I'm sure Rocco knows what he is doing. And this was not mentioned yet .. following his threads on GG&Jim and other boards, you can see he's NOT leeching PR off his link trade partners ... he's helping a lot of new guys! He's good link partner in my book. Peace Quote:
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2004-12-02, 01:33 PM
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Hi there every body,
Think it's time for me to post my own statement here on the board. The reason why I hesitated to reply to this thread is because I'm not a native speaker and am still working on my written English. First of all I have to tell that I respect the sites and work of all of the persons who posted to this thread - doesn't matter if it was in a positive or even negative way. I also respect all personal opinions. And thankyou very much for the kind words Robert, I have great respect for your opinion. I never understood AcidMax's reason for starting this thread and ridicule someone who had done very helpful things for him - Acidmax seems to be very ungrateful and unaware even of how poor his site layout is. I didn't try and tell him this.. I just gave him trades that he would think are more than fair.. or that he should have realised were good. Here is an example of the trades that Acidmax thought were unfair?? http://www.blackgirls.ws/ pr6 <--> http://www.smutlinks.net/directory/Black/ pr4 http://www.blowjob-pics.info/ pr6 <--> http://www.smutlinks.net/directory/Blowjob/ pr4 http://www.gay-sex-men.net/ pr6 <--> http://www.smutlinks.net/directory/Gay/ pr4 and all of his links were up all the time untill now and will remain so in future What I could have done when Acidmax started this thread is to point out that he appears to be a cheater but that is just what people posting here want to do to me without having any good reason to say it and I do not think this a fair way to be. This is how "smart" webmaster's often steal good trades for bad trades.. AcidMax places his trades so far down a page that the trades are never indexed.. http://216.239.59.104/search?sourcei...y%2FAmateur%2F Some webmasters do this on purpose... I am not sure Acidmax did it for this reason, it appeared he simply did not know enough about how a linktrade can be good and how it can be bad. That was in March... when I next spoke to Acidmax a couple of months later i was given just very unfriendly words like: - fuck you - idiot - etc. And he posted this thread to hurt me further if he could. I hoped that Acidmax would learn with time he had made a mistake. But he still says here now I do wrong 6 months later that that again? I don't have any understanding why he wants to call me a bad person to trade with in public now? I have never even removed the trades I gave him back in March. People post saying I have harvested e-mails from this board I think they say? Opti asked me how I worked and knows how I contact people. He said there was nothing wrong with my system that anyone could call bad. I find websites that look like good trading opportunities.. find the webmaster e-mail on the site or by whois.. and contact people. I also follow up by ICQ to everyone I can. I can see no reason for anyone who has talked to me to think I do not work hard and honestly. About DangerDave and GreenGuy I can't tell anything as I neither had never talked to them nor had any problems with them; but I must also say that they probably don't understand really what I did in the past and how I work now. But I respect their opinions. To everybody I have trades already - thanks a lot! I hope you are all happy, if not please contact me and I will make sure I do what is needed to fix any problem. -Rocco |
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2004-12-02, 01:46 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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If I was Rocco I would take it far more than personal and knock your teeth down your throat at the very minimum.. but he's a far nicer guy than me, lucky for you. Now DangerDave.... that's another matter.... I did take his post personally. No action yet Dave? Clock is ticking bitch. |
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2004-12-02, 03:00 PM
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First off if you look at the original post it is from way back when you spammed me Rocco and not once have I complained about any trades in this thread or any other. I think you might want to get your facts straight.
I responded with those words after about 5-8 spam emails with the exact same text and each time I would tell you to stop sending me an email. After so many spams of course I am going to get pissed off. When I started this thread months ago it was to ask who you were, and get people's advice, you responded with another spam post at that time. I have not touched that thread until a couple days ago when I responded to Jim's statement. Lastly I never called you a cheater, I said you were a spammer, Opti even said your tactics were over the top. My trades are down at the bottom of the page, just as many many other link lists are. At this point I think the trades should be removed. Don't really care to argue with you any further its a waste of time and energy. I didn't rebump this thread someone else did. I didn't do anything or even think about this thread until it got bumped. I will take a look at all my trades and remove yours from my list. |
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2004-12-02, 03:29 PM
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I am getting to be real sorry that I brought this back up
 I had just received an email and when I searched the board the thread came up so I thought I would see what ever came of it. I have since have had contact with Rocco but in the end decided not to trade because I am unfamiliar with trades that link to one site and return from another. But I am sorry that I re-opened this can of worms. And hope in the end it all works out for the better. |
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2004-12-02, 04:27 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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My problem is when this thread came back up you felt the need to trash Rocco again.. in response to my post explaining that many many people understand the previous problems with Rocco and I am personally helping him fix them. So, you are saying "Fuck You Opti" I wont give him a second chance... good for you, that's your choice.. but whining about the consequences now is a bit lame? So Acid Max... can you tell us if you put your Trades on the page like that to cheat people or because you didn;t have enough knowledge to know that was useless to the other party trading? Either way any intelligent person can see you are a bad trade option just from that evidence.. but you might still need to locate that clue to understand that. Anyway.. fuck you all, Rocco can look after himself... he makes more money than most of you, has better ethics than just about all of you and is the hardest and most professional worker Ive ever seen... bad luck to those that don't want to see it  DangerDave trying to convince people not to trade with Rocco on ethical grounds is the most amazingly hypocrital thing in this thread... thats what we should be talking about eh Dave! |
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2004-12-02, 04:33 PM
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I'm staying way the hell away from this pissing match, but I do have to say that I have a ton of trades with Rocco, and I consider him to be one of my best trading partners.
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2004-12-02, 04:48 PM
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OK this is really my last post on this thread, because its getting out of hand.
1. No one is whining on my end. I am responding to posts with my name in them. 2. You are putting words in my mouth that I never said. I never said anything bad about you (Opti) at all, but you have felt the need to come after me and make comments related to physical threats. My posts have always been towards Rocco's method for collecting trades. 3. As far as my link trades are concerned there was no cheating involved. As a matter of fact I look at many of your sites and your trades are at the bottom as well. It's common practice on many link lists to have their hard link trades at the bottom. 4. Not once have I ever, nor will you ever hear me say that I know everything or alot of things about link lists. I started mine approx 1 year ago and I am working on making it grow, so far I have been successful thanks to help from other large link list owners. Maybe you know more about link lists and traffic generation than I do, thats great. I probably know more about programming than you do, either way it doesn't bother me, there is always someone more knowledgable. As I said before I think at this point it would be better to remove our trades with each other and end the whole thing. If you want to communicate with me directly in the future about the link trades you can do so via my e-mail address. Good Luck to both of you on your future endeavors. Andy |
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2004-12-02, 09:58 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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And I also apologise if I put your words in your mouth you didn't intend.. I called it how I read it and didnt mean to do that if i have. Neither Rocco or I would drop your links for talking shit unless you demanded it, so there is no problem from this end in that regard if you are happy Sorry for any grief I may have caused you. Opti |
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2004-12-02, 10:12 PM
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I am just curious about this. Going way back, what do you make of Rocco spamming the board in response of someone complaining about getting spammed by him? |
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2004-12-02, 10:16 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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So Dave.... sticking with this "opinion" still are we? Do I really need to argue who's ethical "opinions" are worth listening to all alone.... or are you going to come back here and justify this bullshit opinion? Start with spamming you if you like... that sounds nice and easy.. lots seems to agree with you there by looks.. tell us how Rocco spammed you.. On a side point.. is this thread even relevant to you? when was the last time some random person asked you for a link trade that you did help them out with? You are a PUSSY "dangerous" Dave |
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2004-12-02, 10:24 PM
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I Didn't Do It
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I think Rocco made some mistakes... I think calling his post spamming the board is harsh... but i agree it looks dumb. I know how he was told to work.. and it was not "spamming"... it was over kill.... and he was really a RUDE person to deal with. It wasnt "someone" complaining about it as well Jim.. it was: http://www.iconinternet.com.au/06jul02/Sydney.html this person.... a person who has no reason to complain about Rocco to start with... a person with no ground to stand on when complaining anyway... and a person who knew what they were doing. Look what the asshole did to Jay the other week? OK I dont expect you kick his ass in public... but I dont believe many people.. and any fair person like you, would really not look at him and wonder why he would try and hurt a long time colleuge like that!! One who is strugllling to get a new program off the ground!! It shouldnt matter if Jays program is the shittiest piece of crap in the world ... if he isnt stealing or cheating people who else but Danger Dave would trash it knowing how it would hurt business at a crucial time? Sorry... but I am late for appointment... very late... back later |
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2004-12-02, 10:41 PM
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Just one point because the only thing I know is what I have seen in this thread.
His post was the exact email he has been sending to many people, several times. So, what would you call his first post on this thread? I mean if I was harsh calling it spam, I will be the first to admit it. |
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 I've since found out that Rocco thought that was a professional response.. rather than trash someone trashing him, Rocco thought it would be better to simply show others what he had to offer... he does now understand why his post looks crazy to you and I... but there was never any intent to push his product as the point of that post. Rocco has had such a different cultural upbringing to most of us here he had no idea at that time why his reply post was being ridiculed. Anyway Jim... I didn't come here to defend Rocco, simply to try and cut this dumbass thread off asap... maybe I am an egomaniac.. but I really did expect me asking people to cut him some slack, with that explanation, might have been enough to see it die again. Dave's ICQ works, if he really felt Rocco was such a terrible problem, surely a personal message would have been any reasonable persons first choice. Until the sexy new sig he has now, anyone would think Dave owned purpledollars.. a day or two before his obnoxious effort here I told all my people that any of their affiliate webmasters submitting a freesite hosted on the purpledollars domain get auto-approved and sorted higher in the listings than regular sites... and personally I do expect something back in return for doing that, NOT to be stabbed in the back by people owning/working for/representing the company. And before you try and tell me "I dont see anything wrong with Dave's post"...... I woke up to one of my guys asking why the guy from purpledollars has banned us and anyone linking to us, and a couple of other people pointing out what an asshole DangerDave is... so it was obvious to a few people.. and the ridiculous number of views this thread got BEFORE I came back and posted again is pretty good evidence people could see an accident waiting to happen and wanted front row seats ;- )) Just FYI... I messaged Dave and suggested he try and fix this thread before I posted...... and left it 24 hours... and if by some stretch of the imagination you are not aware of what is really happening here.. please talk to your partner. Dave, I know you don't give a shit about anyone past the end of your nose... but even if you are too cowardly to come back and justify why you said Rocco was so unethical "I would never swap links with this person.... NOR with anyone that swaps links with him"........ you could try something like, "I'm Sorry Brad" , on a pretty card with some flowers  But you should come back and explain how Rocco spammed you... promise I wont change the subject and tell anyone what a hypocritical bitch you are if you do. You did decide to make this about who's opinion on Rocco's ethics was more worthy. The only other option I see now that Jim and Greenie look like they want to line up behind you, is answering your own questions.. ABOUT YOU. And NO ONE wants that.. (that's a lie... lots of people do... but a few people I actually care about don't. Do you care about them too Dave?) Quote:
Stop cowering behind Greenguy and Jim.. they will start to stink like you, and neither of them deserves that. Here's a deal... just admit you really have no good reason to warn people off giving Rocco a second chance.. or even easier... give him a nice link on the index of dangerdave.com.. and I will go back to leaving you alone in that comfortable little reality you have built up all these years. |
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2004-12-03, 10:17 AM
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Opinions are like assholes & we let all kinds of assholes post here & RARELY do we censor anyone.
I really don't give 2 shits who trades with who, but I too have serious doubts about trading with someone who was called a spammer on the board here & replied with the same spam that he was sending out - I don't care what he thought he was doing or who he worked for or what he was told to do - that's just fucking stupid! As far as Opti & DDave go - you 2 have some issues going on that I don't think should be done here on the board (or in public at all for that matter) so work it out on your own & not here on the board.  Be With You |
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2004-12-03, 10:25 AM
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I have watched this thread for a bit ...
I have trades with Rocco on http://www.link-fabulous.com/ I am happy with the trades and more than happy with the professionalism that Rocco has conducted himself with during the process. Thanks Opti for reminding me of that great night we had in Sydney! It is always great for us to get together like that! This pic is my particular fave: http://www.iconinternet.com.au/06jul02/01.jpg  I am sure it will all work out for the good! |
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2004-12-05, 10:10 AM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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I've traded with rocco with every site i have and never had any problems, hes always been polite and prompt with his emails and i've always come away with (IMHO) the better end of the deal.
I'm more interested in what someone can offer my sites than their methods of attracting the trade. 
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