Don't You TGPOWNERS Want To Stop Being Screwed?

[Garou]

Originally posted by selena
I guess I just don't get how a problem is being solved. I follow you...I followed you on the other board I saw this on.

But if I am the type to sell off part of my partner account, how is limiting my domains going to stop that? Say I request a partner account from you, and I say I will be using domainA, domainB, and domainC. You check the whois, and they all match and it all looks legit and you approve me.

Then I turn around and sell the domainB name or usage rights of it to someone else.

So what is solved? And how is it solved?

I'm just asking rhetorically, you really don't have to answer. Or answer, and I'll read it whenver I look in again.

That's a good question. I guess now it'll be all clear.
This is how it's today:

CHEATER
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He is hosting his domains on a redirect server etc. But he has no good galleries to apply for partner status (often they have samples though) cuz he is not into making good galleries, hosting them on a reliable server, buying content, etc. How can he be listed? The thing is that CHEATER earns A LOT on his traffic, but how can he get traffic without being a partner on tgps? The only thing he can do is to BUY an account from a reseller.

RESELLER
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He has some content and good samples but he is not into routins of building galleries on a daily basis at all - no time, no skills, no will, etc
So he preferrs to apply for patner status (from multiple domains/emails etc). When he gets an account he finds CHEATER and sells him the account together with the email address.


After having bought an account for $250 CHEATER submits his galleries (3 galleries a day on big tgps!!!) and gets LOTS of traffic and earns $400 cuz his redirect is smart and he gets banned after more then 1 day listings.



TOTALSUM
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RESELLER has got easy $250
CHEATER has got $400-$250=$150 of easy $$$
TGP OWNER got fooled
Honest submitter gets screwed cuz TGPOWNER wants free partner accounts no more etc.


HOW IT ALL COULD BE:

The partner account allowed posting from only 3 domains. All of them were precisely assigned to this account: domain1.com, domain2.com, domain3.com. The RESELLER showed samples from all of those domains, TPOWNER knows the whois and stuff.
But RESELLER gets fooled cuz he cannot sell the domain to a CHEATER, cuz CHEATER will have to buy RESELLER's domains and set up a redirect script on them (not simple htaccess things at all). This takes time etc, besides RESELLER is not willing to sell his domain - it's active, it has content on it, it's the domain he can apply for partner status with.

RESELLER has a partneraccount he cannot resell
CHEATER has got no traffic without partner accounts
TGP OWNER is happy
HONEST SUBMITTER is happy cuz TGPOWNER loves free partner accounts :-)

[Tommy]

this is bullshit

sort of funny how this thread comes on the back of that other cheater thread

[Garou]

Originally posted by Tommy
this is bullshit

no, it's not

[Tommy]

but why wouldnt the cheater buy the submit acccount straight from the tgp owner and cut out the reseller

[Surfn]

Originally posted by Garou
no, it's not

Yes it is!

[Garou]

Originally posted by Tommy
but why wouldnt the cheater buy the submit acccount straight from the tgp owner and cut out the reseller

TGP cheaters don't tend to buy accounts from the tgp owners cuz they will have to use paypal, epassporte or cc BUT they either do not want to reveal their payment info or it's just not within their reach. And they are just not into having relations with tgp owners (how to pay, it it worth buying, etc) They prfer to have the guarantees from the RESELLER.

[Garou]

Originally posted by Surfn
Yes it is!

it is not

[Useless]

All of this from a guy who can't understand the sig rules.

[Garou]

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
All of this from a guy who can't understand the sig rules.

ooops, sorry about that. Im gonna check it out now

Sorry, indeed

[Kinky]

a cheat is a cheat is a cheat... partner accounts are a way to cut down on cheating... they will NOT stop it completely no matter what you do... even if you have your site 100% completely your own stuff people still rip you off... paid submits cut down on cheating and it gives the webmasters some reimbursment for the time they spend working against all the cheaters (time = money)

[klaus]

hmm,
looks for me like you wann make a big fast buck on your own blahhh.com programm.
And it also reads like you are a big buyer of Partner Accounts.

[the New Shemp]

sorry for the late bump on this...

yes, partners are not all honest and some do try to cheat or sell their free partner accounts to some poor smuck for a few $$$.

i use a whois check now for every submit and compare it to the info given to me by the partner when the account was approved..
that has helped a lot...but nothing is perfect...

[Garou]

Yep, it could help. Not perfect though

[koolkat]

I have a question here... why not have paid submitter accounts, one domain only, all info must verify. That way if they do sell it and get banned, then its going to cut into their profit somewhat!

[3xTom]

Nothing is fool proof, except the fool that says it is....
Anyone can be cheated
at antime
Even sites using only freehosted gallerys only will be cheated by
a sponsor at some point...
it may be something as simple as skiming sales

So there is one thing you can be totally sure of in this and really any buisness.....

YOU AND I WILL GET CHEATED

Its just something that we all have came to live and deal with..

Its terriably sad that this is even a topic that we have to deal with

But all we can do is work hard tring to make sure that our sites are as clean as we can make them....
for some its a script, for some its partner accounts, for some its a real live human hummmmm yeah some sites still use those...

Thats about all I got to say about it

[Garou]

hahaha

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=379591&s=

[Ramster]

Originally posted by Garou
hahaha

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=379591&s=

Why the hahaha? I don't think anyone doubted you that partner accounts get abused. You just never ever provided a better solution for anyone. All you did was say we were stupid for allowing partners. You'd prefer public submits instead?

Oh and that guy is the dumbest mutherfucker I've even seen.

[DangerDave]

Garou you still pushing this shit....? why? Was that "you" posting on GFY...?

Oh wait... thats right... we dont give a shit!!

DD

[Garou]

Originally posted by DangerDave
Garou you still pushing this shit....? why? Was that "you" posting on GFY...?

Oh wait... thats right... we dont give a shit!!

DD

thanks for ur comments. It was just funny to me to see that post on gfy Some ppl contacted me on icq and sad that it was all nothing but my suspicion

sorry guys it just made me smile

[Cheerful1]

I guess I am stupid but through this whole thread the posts from the thread starter sound like a "use my product it will solve all your issues" one to me.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Trying to learn tgps.