Would these sites be accepted? - Page 2

Bill · 2008-10-12, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

Anyway, so here are a few examples:

Well, I think you'll get some reviewers getting cranky because the templates all look very much alike. Write a selection of new stylesheets and rotate them and you will avoid this. Mostly - straght linklist builders have learned that it's best to create more 'different looking' sites, to keep the reviewers happy.

And some reviewers will say these are blind links - http://www.pornisation.com/sites/twi..._tbd/main.html

If you had the link text say "Click Here to watch the Boy Fun Collection Now!" - that wouldn't be blind.

gaydemon · 2008-10-12, 07:10 PM

Thanks for the tips, I've got someone reviewing the link texts.

The thing is, I'm getting very confused. I hear one thing (and read on the rules) and see another.

I for exampled looked through several sites listed on Link-o-rama, and they are messy, have more then 5 reciprocal links on the warning page (against the rules), the content is rubbish (same over used content over and over again). They have misleading links, one advertises Pridemovies with banners, but have text link below it is for another site (randyblue), the images are definitly nowhere near 1200px in total..

So I'm not sure what to believe, or to do. Some rules also seems to be contradicting themselves..

Should I just try and submit sites or?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Well, I think you'll get some reviewers getting cranky because the templates all look very much alike. Write a selection of new stylesheets and rotate them and you will avoid this. Mostly - straght linklist builders have learned that it's best to create more 'different looking' sites, to keep the reviewers happy.

And some reviewers will say these are blind links - http://www.pornisation.com/sites/twi..._tbd/main.html

If you had the link text say "Click Here to watch the Boy Fun Collection Now!" - that wouldn't be blind.

Bill · 2008-10-12, 07:43 PM

Well, there's no rule limiting recips to 5 - you must have misread. I'd say 15 to 16 links is the average on a straight linklist freesite.

The content being rubbish isn't uncommon - a side effect of people using sponsor content. This topic is a bit complex - everyone wants to use what they perceive as the best content or most recent content to promote with.

One does what one can to make the sites look appealing and 'new' even tho one knows that others may have already used the content.

As for sloppy advertising - these things happen, people either build carelessly or are tired when they build, or they are just being sloppy. Sloppy ads are allowed, it's the number of ad links and wether or not they are blind that is checked for.

The 1200 pixel rule has been reduced to a limit of 1000px for trusted submitters.

Yes, you should just try to build and submit some sites, and see what happens. It's a different submitting environment than you are used to, so seeing what gets accepted and what doesn't is the best feedback you can get.

I recommend flat html, not xhtml. And remember, no counters or scripts except the most basic javascripts - I think I saw a google analystics script on your pages.

gaydemon · 2008-10-13, 04:52 AM

Thanks for the tips.

I really appriciate it! It certainly is very different from what I accept on gaydemon for example.

Link-o-rama rules it says,

"Number Of Other Link Lists You Are Submitting To = 5"

Or is that the minimum?

About scripts. Why is Google Analytics script a problem? I mean how else do you know what sells, what your surfers do etc? Doesnt anyone research and use statistics to see what or how people behave? I mean how else do you know what works?

Dont understand the xhtml issue. My xhtml coding is perfect and to the highest standard (its valid xhtml). Why is a properly designed page a problem?

Anyway, I will try and see what happens as it is now. If it doesn work, then thats unfortunate. It would have been nice to get listed and I think listing my free sites actually benefit the links lists with better quality sites and content, which is party why I do it (to increase the quality of sites listed on gaydemon and all my other gay link lists).

As I said, I really appriciate the time you are taking with giving the info!

Bill · 2008-10-13, 12:38 PM

Sorry, I'm wrong about the xhtml - I'm low and sleep and stressed out about a wedding I have to go to this weekend, I had a brain spasm. xhtml is fine. As to why the recip codes aren't xhtml compliant, thats because

Bjorn, you wouldn't believe the number of times I've heard a new submitter with a different idea of what constitutes a freesite say, "But my sites are good, they would benefit the linklist".

The rules evolved because of intense pressure from cheaters, and to make it possible for the reviewers to rip thru hundreds of site reviews a day. The environment is what it is - once you learn the rules, it actually simplifies the site building and submission process.

gaydemon · 2008-10-13, 12:49 PM

I'm sure you are right. I should know all this really from running a link list for such a long time, its just that some rules are hard to comply with but I got to jsut find a way I guess.

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Originally Posted by Bill

Sorry, I'm wrong about the xhtml - I'm low and sleep and stressed out about a wedding I have to go to this weekend, I had a brain spasm. xhtml is fine. As to why the recip codes aren't xhtml compliant, thats because

Bjorn, you wouldn't believe the number of times I've heard a new submitter with a different idea of what constitutes a freesite say, "But my sites are good, they would benefit the linklist".

The rules evolved because of intense pressure from cheaters, and to make it possible for the reviewers to rip thru hundreds of site reviews a day. The environment is what it is - once you learn the rules, it actually simplifies the site building and submission process.

turf · 2008-10-14, 08:07 AM

not to hijack this thread but would movie free sites be accepted if they followed the rules but used flash movies insted of downoadable ones ?

Bill · 2008-10-14, 12:58 PM

You should start a new thread with that topic, or maybe do some searches on it, cuz this thread is nopw old enough and specific enough that your post will be missed by the folks that can answer.

gaydemon · 2008-10-14, 04:03 PM

Is there definitly no way of getting sites listed which use Google Analytics script? Say you dont put it on the warning / first page but only the main and gallery pages?

I think I can sort out the other issues, with some work but I just dont like submitting blind and not being able to see exactly what goes on.

Bill · 2008-10-15, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaydemon

Is there definitly no way of getting sites listed which use Google Analytics script? Say you dont put it on the warning / first page but only the main and gallery pages?

I think I can sort out the other issues, with some work but I just dont like submitting blind and not being able to see exactly what goes on.

Well, the old answer, before trusted submitter accounts became more common earlier this year, was pretty simple - NO COUNTERS, NO SCRIPTS of any kind, on any page, or you get banned. The site owners would say - if you want stats, look at your server stats.

I've seen a few simple perl based counters that didn't put a <script code on the page - but thats not much more conveinient than checking webalyzer or whatever crappy stats package one gets with most server accounts.

tigermom · 2008-10-19, 05:25 AM

Good to see you here, Bjorn!

I have to say, Gaydemon is one of the handful of gay linklists I can submit FS to that actually comply with the stricter straight LL's rules. I wish more gay LL's would accept sites with 24 images in them.

Gaydemon is an awesome sites, and if you submit gay FS, it's a must on your recip table, IMO.

turf · 2008-10-20, 06:57 AM

I know that wmv/mpg/avi is the current movie format of choise but i was wondering if a movie free sites that followed all the rules but presented the movie in FLASH would be accpted or rejected by the major link lists..

turf · 2008-10-20, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turf

I know that wmv/mpg/avi is the current movie format of choise but i was wondering if a movie free sites that followed all the rules but presented the movie in FLASH would be accpted or rejected by the major link lists..

damn, this was to be a new thread insted of a post in this topic...

what can i say, i am not a bright guy!

justbc4u · 2008-11-10, 08:40 PM

hello everyone yea newbie here i tried submitting my site not sure if i did it right plus being a college student i only have a free e-mail and my school e-mail (not allowed to use for porn) anyway would like to exchange links with anyone willing to do whatever it takes. also would love some professional feedback on my site how it looks, design,layout,content from more experienced people.
thanks.
http://mistressangela.parkyourporno.com/

Bill · 2008-11-10, 09:00 PM

Kinda the wrong thread guy.

You're gonna have a bit of a tough time getting this traffic given the limitations you have. A free email and freehost is a liability.

You should start a thread in newbies section. In a sense you present an interesting problem - is it possible for a really busted broke person like a college student to bootstrap themselves into this as self-employment for a minimal investment?

tigermom · 2008-11-11, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justbc4u

hello everyone yea newbie here i tried submitting my site not sure if i did it right plus being a college student i only have a free e-mail and my school e-mail (not allowed to use for porn) anyway would like to exchange links with anyone willing to do whatever it takes. also would love some professional feedback on my site how it looks, design,layout,content from more experienced people.
thanks.
http://mistressangela.parkyourporno.com/

Free hosting is going to get you decline almost everywhere. If you're serious about this, shell out the $10 or so a month for a hosting account. That usually comes with an email address on your domain name.

Actually, just had a look at your "freesite", so doesn't matter, this one will get rejected anyway

Here's the thing, freesite doesn't equal "free site". A freesite in the adult webmastering world is a very specific format made of 4 pages that conform to some very specific rules. Anything else, and you won't get listed on linklists. You can do other stuff, and work on SE traffic.

Your page is a total mess to the eyes of an adult webmaster. Why on earth would you have a banner for a gay webcam service on a straight porn page?? Why a banner for this webmasters board? And what's with mixing up so many niches on this supposedly femdom fake TGP??

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but honestly, you can't just put up a web page and expect to make money. This business is much much more complicated. If you're interested in becoming an adult webmaster, prepare to go through a fairly steep learning curve. Take time to read read read on the boards and learn the basics first.

2008-10-13, 04:52 AM	#29
gaydemon Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15	Thanks for the tips. I really appriciate it! It certainly is very different from what I accept on gaydemon for example. Link-o-rama rules it says, "Number Of Other Link Lists You Are Submitting To = 5" Or is that the minimum? About scripts. Why is Google Analytics script a problem? I mean how else do you know what sells, what your surfers do etc? Doesnt anyone research and use statistics to see what or how people behave? I mean how else do you know what works? Dont understand the xhtml issue. My xhtml coding is perfect and to the highest standard (its valid xhtml). Why is a properly designed page a problem? Anyway, I will try and see what happens as it is now. If it doesn work, then thats unfortunate. It would have been nice to get listed and I think listing my free sites actually benefit the links lists with better quality sites and content, which is party why I do it (to increase the quality of sites listed on gaydemon and all my other gay link lists). As I said, I really appriciate the time you are taking with giving the info! __________________ Bjorn Gaydemon / Directory & Search Engine Gaydemon.Biz / Gay Webmaster Forum

2008-10-14, 08:07 AM	#32
turf Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 24	not to hijack this thread but would movie free sites be accepted if they followed the rules but used flash movies insted of downoadable ones ? __________________ nothing to see here, lets move on

2008-10-14, 04:03 PM	#34
gaydemon Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15	Is there definitly no way of getting sites listed which use Google Analytics script? Say you dont put it on the warning / first page but only the main and gallery pages? I think I can sort out the other issues, with some work but I just dont like submitting blind and not being able to see exactly what goes on. __________________ Bjorn Gaydemon / Directory & Search Engine Gaydemon.Biz / Gay Webmaster Forum

2008-10-19, 05:25 AM	#36
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Good to see you here, Bjorn! I have to say, Gaydemon is one of the handful of gay linklists I can submit FS to that actually comply with the stricter straight LL's rules. I wish more gay LL's would accept sites with 24 images in them. Gaydemon is an awesome sites, and if you submit gay FS, it's a must on your recip table, IMO. __________________ XLEF

2008-10-20, 06:57 AM	#37
turf Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 24	Flash movie galleries - getting listed or rejected ? I know that wmv/mpg/avi is the current movie format of choise but i was wondering if a movie free sites that followed all the rules but presented the movie in FLASH would be accpted or rejected by the major link lists.. __________________ nothing to see here, lets move on

2008-10-12, 07:43 PM	#28
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, there's no rule limiting recips to 5 - you must have misread. I'd say 15 to 16 links is the average on a straight linklist freesite. The content being rubbish isn't uncommon - a side effect of people using sponsor content. This topic is a bit complex - everyone wants to use what they perceive as the best content or most recent content to promote with. One does what one can to make the sites look appealing and 'new' even tho one knows that others may have already used the content. As for sloppy advertising - these things happen, people either build carelessly or are tired when they build, or they are just being sloppy. Sloppy ads are allowed, it's the number of ad links and wether or not they are blind that is checked for. The 1200 pixel rule has been reduced to a limit of 1000px for trusted submitters. Yes, you should just try to build and submit some sites, and see what happens. It's a different submitting environment than you are used to, so seeing what gets accepted and what doesn't is the best feedback you can get. I recommend flat html, not xhtml. And remember, no counters or scripts except the most basic javascripts - I think I saw a google analystics script on your pages.

2008-10-13, 12:38 PM	#30
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Sorry, I'm wrong about the xhtml - I'm low and sleep and stressed out about a wedding I have to go to this weekend, I had a brain spasm. xhtml is fine. As to why the recip codes aren't xhtml compliant, thats because Bjorn, you wouldn't believe the number of times I've heard a new submitter with a different idea of what constitutes a freesite say, "But my sites are good, they would benefit the linklist". The rules evolved because of intense pressure from cheaters, and to make it possible for the reviewers to rip thru hundreds of site reviews a day. The environment is what it is - once you learn the rules, it actually simplifies the site building and submission process.

2008-10-14, 12:58 PM	#33
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	You should start a new thread with that topic, or maybe do some searches on it, cuz this thread is nopw old enough and specific enough that your post will be missed by the folks that can answer.

2008-11-10, 08:40 PM	#39
justbc4u Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 21	hello everyone yea newbie here i tried submitting my site not sure if i did it right plus being a college student i only have a free e-mail and my school e-mail (not allowed to use for porn) anyway would like to exchange links with anyone willing to do whatever it takes. also would love some professional feedback on my site how it looks, design,layout,content from more experienced people. thanks. http://mistressangela.parkyourporno.com/

2008-11-10, 09:00 PM	#40
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Kinda the wrong thread guy. You're gonna have a bit of a tough time getting this traffic given the limitations you have. A free email and freehost is a liability. You should start a thread in newbies section. In a sense you present an interesting problem - is it possible for a really busted broke person like a college student to bootstrap themselves into this as self-employment for a minimal investment?