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Old 2004-04-09, 07:46 PM   #1
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Is you company/income in danger?

Tommy sent this to me yesterday:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...home-headlines

We talked about it on the phone for a little while.
I just wanted to get some other opinions it.

How far is to far and how close are they to doing something that would put a huge dent in your income, your business, the entire industry?

If any of you are thinking about help keeping Bush in office, perhaps you should think again....
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Old 2004-04-09, 07:53 PM   #2
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Some very scary shit there.

Let's just hope that the bible thumpers are voted out of office.
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Old 2004-04-09, 08:45 PM   #3
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That is definitely scary!

Hopefully the voting goes the other way.
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Old 2004-04-09, 08:54 PM   #4
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IMO freedom of porn is the least of the damage this administration is doing. Just take a look at the mess in the Mideast and all the people dying each day.

I have complete disdain for Bush and his administration. It just makes me sick watching him on TV.
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Old 2004-04-09, 09:44 PM   #5
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Ditto Cleo - What makes it worse is that he gives real Texans a bad name...not all of us are close-minded arrogant trolls.. Then again.. we do have Ross Perot.
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actually we did start a bit of a discussion over Here but it was it was redirected..

and yes it is scary and yes it is real..and maybe because our "pool of pornographers" is so large and saturated that some are hoping those with less guts will give up and go away if no one acts, or maybe some are just raking in so much money that no one cares, but what if you logged onto your computer one day.. and is not "sky is falling" this could possibly happen, that your entire 'business' was gone, simply because CC company won't process or webhosts won't take adult content, or there is a knock at your door and your computer is seized.

We can "discuss" the merits of the RNC vs. the DNC and which is worse than the other (give me bj's in the white house anyday).

9-11 was the very best thing that could ever have happened to Bush. It gave him "fear" and people in "fear" act irrationally, passing laws with hidden agendas that have nothing to do with what they fear, but simply because they are to afraid to question.

I'm actually a registered Republican who didn't vote for Bush in 2000, and is planning to move to my little condo in Jamaica if he gets re-elected in 2004. I am not conservative, but i do believe in a market based economy which is a founding tenent of the Republican party. Right now i'd trade that for at least one voice of sanity in DC.
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Old 2004-04-09, 10:03 PM   #7
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|doh|



I didn't even see that thread. My fault.
That'll teach me to visit more and look over the posts I have not read.
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Old 2004-04-10, 01:36 AM   #8
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yea i was planning on voting for bush til this bullshit came up, not getting my vote anymore thats for sure |pissed|
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As I live in Finland I'm not so scared. I can always change my sites to servers that are in Europe, like in Amsterdam, for an example.

We have at least two european sponsors, and there may be more, if I had to check.

If US sponsors go off, that's a bad thing, but I believe it's only temporary. Serious businesses just move somewhere where it's warm all year and they have golden beaches and banks that still don't tell who they customers are.

It's easier to win a war at Iraq than it is at pornland. Porn will never die.
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You mean we won the war in Iraq? I didn't know we removed the weapons of mass distruction that we went in to get.
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Old 2004-04-10, 09:49 AM   #11
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Seeing as it looks like there wasn't any weapons of mass destruction I guess Bush will soon be declaring a victory of making Iraq free of weapons of mass destruction.
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Seeing as it looks like there wasn't any weapons of mass destruction I guess Bush will soon be declaring a victory of making Iraq free of weapons of mass destruction.
The sad truth is that Americans will believe that statement.

The switch has already taken place once. At first we were going in to remove the weapons of mass destruction but once the intelligence came in that there were no weapons of mass destruction there a quick switch to "Liberate the Iraqi People". I’m not sure why we have the right to liberate the people of one country over another. Why not liberate North Korea, Libya, Uganda, Rwanda or any other country that puts people to death for crimes of the state. I should be quite since I live in Virginia and my government puts more people to death per capita then any other government in North America.

Those Canadians have been pissing me off lately and I hear they have oil. Let’s go liberate them! It should cost a lot less then 165 Billion dollars.
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Old 2004-04-10, 10:21 AM   #13
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I've been following all this bush conspiracy talk for the last 3 years now and I'm thuroughly convinced I need to get out of this country. Thats the whole reason I got into porn, to make an online business independent of locality. My plan is to move to Belize or Panama and move my sites offshore or out of the US at least. When bush wins this year, you can bet Iraq won't be the last oil nation we go to battle with. There is already legislation and staffs being built to handle a new draft. Next on the list is Iran and Syria immediately and then Saudi Arabia. There is not enough oil left on the planet and America wants it. Since I'm only 23 I'm still draft age and I sure as hell don't want to give my blood for a drop of oil. I'd rather be living in a South american paradise than this nazi country any day.

As for my political prefrence, I'd say I'm republican, by definitian, less taxes, less gov't. But I'm liberal with rights, unlike this administration.

The problem here is that the guys telling bush what to do are not "republican" or "conservative" they are idealists. They started liberal in their carrers and have moved to militaristic conservatives. Wolfowitz, Pearle, Chaney and the whole cabal backing and running bush are fans of israel's likud party and use their tactics. Frame up the enemy, then attack them for it. The US sends over $40 BILLION dollars a year to israel. Israel runs our country and no one knows it. Look into the israeli zionist movement and you'll see, they are religious freak nazis. (I mean nothing against jews when I talk bad about zionism or israel mind you, I'm talking bad about their gov't and their supremicy conduct).

Check out this link for proof about Al' Qaeda being a israeli front: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html

Keep in mind, the "mossad" is the israeli CIA. Hammas is the israeli front for the Palestinian CIA. There is some serious cloak and dagger shit going on htat most people don't know about if you put some research into it.

*puts on tin foil hat*
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Old 2004-04-10, 11:33 AM   #14
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If we believe all that we read, then we really have to rethink ourselves. People have been researching that particular website for a long time. here is an example research on what really happened.com
seems that is is part of a huge network of disinformation sites spread out on the web..believe what you will..I for one don't believe a word of it.

And I really don't want to get myself started on Bush and his "Born Again" campaign to take away my constitutional rights to do what I want when I want to, etc...

Flickstah, I hope you agree that we are entitled to disagree with each other..
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Old 2004-04-10, 11:48 AM   #15
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yes, I respect your opinion and right to disaggree, of course. I don't take everything wrh has to say as TRUTH. Most of the articles on bank index and gooff arn't all I read either though. I disaggree with the comment of wrh furthering a right wing agenda though, perhaps a christian agenda to an extent, but not right wing in the sense of the bush administration. The comments and stories on israel however I cannot just turn a blind eye to or disaggree with as I've seen too much on the contrary to just disregaurd the stories they do cover.

I've argued this whole elitist new world order issue with so many people for so long I don't really want to get into politics, especially here. I just like to at least mention it to some people so they can look into the issue for themselves if they choose.

Political opinions are like assholes, and eveyone else's stinks.
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Old 2004-04-10, 12:12 PM   #16
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once again diverting the issue by placing blame on some shadowy conspiracy which we'll NEVER know the truth about not matter how much "talk radio" declares it so.

The issue is not an israeli issue, or an iraqi issue, for those of us based in the US. it's is a constitutional issue, that is being eroded by politicians with their own agenda, to divert public attention away from the fact they lied about WMD, or whatever the topic du jour is and get it back to something we can be "afraid' of again!!. OH NO!! porn in our bedrooms!!!

The question is what do "we" plan to do?? Sit back, talk and let it happen? Make an action plan that can be implemented by choice across the country?? Think that I'm too "vanilla, small, big" etc (fill in your own justification) that it won't happen to me??

we have a small group at work that formed this week. Mostly gay, but growing in number across the company. We plan to start working 1 weekend a month, registering voters. We cannot sway the way they vote, but at least if they are registered, we have a 50-50 chance they will vote the right direction.
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The comments and stories on israel however I cannot just turn a blind eye to or disaggree with as I've seen too much on the contrary to just disregaurd the stories they do cover.
Those, like any of the other "stories" they cover, need to be put into the proper context. The conflict in the middle east was born of blood. Isaac and Ishmael were brothers. There is nothing more instense than familial conflict. It goes deeper than any other conflict on earch. It is blood bound. Today, it has reached epic, global proportions, and name calling is not an answer. That is a childish response to a conflict such as this when, in reality, it calls for cool heads much wiser than you or I.
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ok, don't mean to "divert" the subject, but when it comes to voting them out or making a difference with anything but a physical revolution and forced exit of the whitehouse... check out this story from not wrh or based on israel, but a tactic used by israel far too often, and in the favor of the current us regime: http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/04/far04011.html

Give me the rundown on why buzzflash is wrong... lol. I saw a story about gen. tommy who was sayint the same thing as this article a few months to a year ago posted on GFY. My money is on the attack before the elections, martial law and no more voting just seems like the next logical step, which is why I plan on leaving. I don't feel like revolting. and I'm a felon so I can't vote them out anyway.
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In conclusion, like I said I don't want to get into this here. I see stuff happening and like I said I'm draft age so it scares me. Period. Bad shit is happening in the world and the gov't. and I feel I can't do anything about it. So I'm gonna drop this topic and move on and get back to work. Take care all and do what ya gotta |afro|
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Old 2004-04-10, 06:33 PM   #20
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The whole past election controversy was a bad omen for things to come. All we can do is make sure all votes get counted this time.
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Old 2004-04-10, 07:28 PM   #21
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I'm surprised that none of you are talking about something which is even more important than voting and registering in a modern US election...

Which is contributing money to the political cause you support.
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You mean we won the war in Iraq?
No you didn't and you never will.
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Those of you talking about leaving the country if the president gets re-elected, I got 2 words for you. "GET OUT!" If you don't love your country then go live somewhere else! Do you know how many people fight to get into our country?

If you don't like the party in office, VOTE! It's as simple as that, vote for the people who you agree with. I can sit here and probably counter everything you guys have all said, but im not going to get into another political argument on the boards. I just think that many of you forget about the fuckups the last administration caused, beginning of the rececssion, lazy attitude toward terrorism etc. There are problems with both parties, I too am a republican but I also have my own ideas as to how the country can be improved.

I don't vote everything republican just because I am a republican, I vote for how I feel. I think the one thing you guys forget is this shit comes up every single election year, and nothing ever happens. We went to Iraq to liberate a country from a man who can be compared to Adolf Hitler. Those of you who concentrate on he WMD aspect are just silly. Do I think there was WMD? Hell I don't know! Does it bother me if there wasn't? Nope! Why? Because he had them before, he killed thousands of innocenet men, women and child to prove his point, he should have been ousted the first time around and hung by his testicles.
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This is an international business we are in. Every threat to it, no matter which country it comes from is a threat to all of us.

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acidmax, you sir, are my hero.

i couldnt have said it better my self - here here and ditto everything you said
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