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Old 2006-04-10, 10:00 AM   #1
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hey ponygirl

Welcome to the thread which documents the steady decline of Kristian's sanity

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wow, I just got caught up on this thread

I have a teeny little LL lol but I started with no direction, just threw it up as a hub & let it evolve into what it is now, which is still evolving all the time I don't think I'll have much input for this thread, more likely I'll sit back and learn what I can out of it - but just wanted to chime in & say this is really interesting, I'll be looking forward to seeing the results of all this work
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Old 2006-04-10, 09:34 AM   #2
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Hiya Kristian

Well...it might depend on how much you want to take on at once.

You have two good domain names there. One hasn't been used yet, but has two good words in it. The other has been online awhile already.

So maybe it's worth considering developing them both at the same time.


The reason I say this is that I've found there are almost always at least two good answers to every question. Almost always at least two good ways to do most things you want to do. Two good ways to arrive at the same goal.

For one site you could outsource design, while doing the other all yourself. Submitted sites could appear on both link lists.

Nice opportunity to see if using an older domain really helps one while the newer one gets sandboxed for awhile.

And if you're feeling especially masochistic, you could even use both of your two top script choices, one on each domain, for a nice side-by-side test.

One thing... if you decide to go this way, don't look to murder me later.


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Simon --

You're a sadist, my friend. lol

What you suggest is actually a fucking great idea. Only reservations I have is it would steer this thread away from the primary intent and the extra work would probably get me locked away for a long time.

Depending on the domain choice though, it would be something I might consider doing here once the first one is setup and running. Would be very interesting I think.

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Google Sandbox

Some new webmasters might be confused as to the meaning of google's sandbox.

New sites can get indexed on google but will not show up for relevant keywords until a grace period has elapsed. The average period is anywhere from 3 to 8 months. They get sandboxed. Many marketers believe the sandbox is actually more of an aging filter. Google filters out the new sites until they are deemed worthy of relevant indexing. The only solution to this problem (which flies in the face of free enterprose IMO) is to wait it out.

The good news is that it does not apply to other engines that can give us good traffic. It is possible to get ranked on yahoo and msn very quickly, for instance.
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Old 2006-04-10, 09:58 AM   #5
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So, back to the problem ...

Having porn movie keyphrase in the title : Is it worth waiting possibly 8 months in the google sandbox?

If I needed quick money, then probably not. But this is a long term project. The answer to the question is what is the best long term decision?

I'm still thinking porn movie directory ...

I think ...

(well this is an adventure!!!)

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What do you guys reckon?

decisions decisions decisions
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Old 2006-04-10, 10:13 AM   #7
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What do you guys reckon?

decisions decisions decisions
Well, if you arn't worried about the passing of time, then the porn movie name would be better. Obviously, more people are searching for 'porn movies' than 'link lists'. GG's domain is still better than yours though.

Wait until you see the name of the movie link list I'm working on. Yet again a domain name that no one has ever even considered searching for. I'm good that way. I'm the master of using unrelated words on sites.
And no, it's not ButtPlugBallFan. That domain is still fermenting.
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Old 2006-04-10, 10:15 AM   #8
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Well, if you arn't worried about the passing of time, then the porn movie name would be better. Obviously, more people are searching for 'porn movies' than 'link lists'. GG's domain is still better than yours though.


I know, the BASTARD! lol
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About 10 mins folks before I make a decision.

Just think ... you'll be able to tell your grandchildren about this amazing day ... the day I helped Kristian name whatever(dot)com !!!!
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If time is not important I would go with Porn Movie Directory.

What Useless Warrior said more people will search for porn movie.
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Old 2006-04-10, 12:15 PM   #11
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Finally got around to reading this thread and it's a great one! I won't have much to offer either as my link list is new, I kind of just threw it up also and it's always a work in progress. I'm sure this thread is going to be a big help to me though.

Ponygirl if you see this post just wanted to let you know I think we would be instant great friends in the real world. So many of your posts are just what I'm thinking or doing when I go to post

Thanks for the thread Kristian
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Old 2006-04-10, 12:23 PM   #12
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Ponygirl if you see this post just wanted to let you know I think we would be instant great friends in the real world. So many of your posts are just what I'm thinking or doing when I go to post
LOL - well we're both just really perverted hehe

Porn Movie Directory going once, going twice...

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Old 2006-04-10, 12:26 PM   #13
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LOL - well we're both just really perverted hehel
Two perverted girls . . .

And my mom wonders why I got into porn
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hey sue

Good to have you here

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Finally got around to reading this thread and it's a great one! I won't have much to offer either as my link list is new, I kind of just threw it up also and it's always a work in progress. I'm sure this thread is going to be a big help to me though.

Ponygirl if you see this post just wanted to let you know I think we would be instant great friends in the real world. So many of your posts are just what I'm thinking or doing when I go to post

Thanks for the thread Kristian
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Porn Movie Directory it is! fhewwwwwwwwww
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wow, what an informative thread this is... I also have a domain (newpornlist.com) that's just wasting space on my hosting account. Maybe I should turn it to a LL too. hummmmmm....
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hiya wazimm

Cool domain name. You found the right thread if that's what you want to do

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wow, what an informative thread this is... I also have a domain (newpornlist.com) that's just wasting space on my hosting account. Maybe I should turn it to a LL too. hummmmmm....
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I just noticed that I haven't wished you good luck in this thread, kristian. So, good luck on the new linklist
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Thanks Jim and thanks also for the opportunity to do what we're doing here. The link in the newletter also helped a lot. We're getting some great ideas from webmasters of all different levels of experience. Cheers

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Just A Brief Update!

Brief Update . . .

Had problems installing the script last night. This is the first time in a long time I've had problems with an installation. If anyone wants a tgp script or forum installing, I might just do it to get back my confidence! lol A word of warning about Gossamer Links : its a bugger.

Anyway script is installed now. On Sunday I created the layouts in photo shop. Gave those to Amareck who turned them into CSS layouts. Incidentally, although html is a language we all know and love, it is worth your while learning css too. I didn't want to spend time learning it for this project but am intent on getting to grips with it over time. Much of it is simple but I would not know how to design a site from the ground up with it. The reason I went for a css layout, instead of conventional html, is just to keep with the times and offer my sufers faster loading pages and a little interactivity - primarily, I wanted faster load times that would also save money in the long run in terms of bandwidth.

This afternoon I revised the designs so I'm guessing Amareck will be chewing his keyboard before long.

Will post more as soon as I have more to tell.
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good to hear you got the script installed, i use myself the gossarmer free script, and i have alot of extra things there (like blacklist on domain, ip, email, words and more), i dont think its hard to install but then i learned from the start gossamer, i have now one linksite done with css script, i dont know, i dont like it myself , probably i like to torture myself and go with the old fashioned doing every page html handcoding( like with stuveltjes porn, i regret i started sucha big list, so much work) still good you have the script running and trying things, looking forward to see your linksite finished

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good to hear you got the script installed, i use myself the gossarmer free script, and i have alot of extra things there (like blacklist on domain, ip, email, words and more), i dont think its hard to install but then i learned from the start gossamer, i have now one linksite done with css script, i dont know, i dont like it myself , probably i like to torture myself and go with the old fashioned doing every page html handcoding( like with stuveltjes porn, i regret i started sucha big list, so much work) still good you have the script running and trying things, looking forward to see your linksite finished

Thanks stu I should have something to show you in a day or so.
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Brief Update . . .

Had problems installing the script last night. This is the first time in a long time I've had problems with an installation. If anyone wants a tgp script or forum installing, I might just do it to get back my confidence! lol A word of warning about Gossamer Links : its a bugger.
I remember mentioning it at one point that the gossamer is a little bit more to deal with...I personally dislike the script when it comes to installing and its a bugger to modify the templates and the css for it...however, it looks like you got things going with it which is good to see

The excitement is just beginning
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I remember mentioning it at one point that the gossamer is a little bit more to deal with...I personally dislike the script when it comes to installing and its a bugger to modify the templates and the css for it...however, it looks like you got things going with it which is good to see

The excitement is just beginning
I'm pleased with the choice but certainly wish it was easier. I guess it's like anything new: bit of a learning curve. Knowing how to enhance and optimise it will be my biggest hurdle I think. For that I may need someone experienced.

Should have some developments to document soon enough.
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I'd like to see the actual pages before I passed complete judgement on them, but from what I see so far, the text on the category & newsites pages are way too big.
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