Godaddy giving Christmas presents for cheaters?

[zel]

This was just in my email from support@godaddy.com

Dear Valued Go Daddy Customer,

Effective November 12, 2004, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) will
institute a new transfer policy for all accredited domain name service providers.

The previous ICANN policy allowed us to deny requests to transfer your domain names to another
registrar unless you explicitly confirmed to us your intent to transfer. The new ICANN policy
removes that protection. Starting November 12, when we receive a request to transfer your domain
name to a new registrar, we will still attempt to contact you to confirm that you authorized the
request. However, if you do not respond, or are not able to respond within 5 days, your domain name
WILL be transferred.

With this change in mind, we are recommending that all Go Daddy domain customers visit GoDaddy.com
and "lock" their domain name(s). Locking your domain(s) is free and prevents unauthorized changes
to contacts and name servers. Most importantly, it prevents the domain name from being transferred
to another registrar without your knowledge. You may lock or unlock your domain at any time.

Well, im scratching my head and my ass - this looks like a gift from the gods to domain stealers!
Now, if my domain is NOT locked( and i can bet my hat on that there are many webmasters who dont read this board and are not even aware that domains get hijacked) - ANYONE can order them to transfer domain to any other registrar, in fact jacking it?

After all the negative feedback i would think that Godaddy take some measures agaist it, now they are doing the opposite...oh well, not them exactly, its the ICANN, but anyways....this seems just awkward to me, and i expect many more domains hijacked soon... As we dont have enough problems with scammers already.

[Kath]

I have to agree that it's sure what it SOUNDS like - what will actually happen and how this will all work out remains to be seen... interesting development, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this. You're right, sure sounds like a big open window for all the domain stealers out there.

*sigh*

[DangerDave]

That sounds fucking dangerous...!!

I wonder if other registrars will follow suit.... and why the fuck did ICANN take away that security measure..???

DD

[Useless]

I guess it's not a big surprise that GoDaddy is the first one doing this. Soon you'll be able to give them $8 and take any name you wish, no matter who has it registered.

[Trev]

I just don't understand why anyone would use godaddy for a domain that they actually want to keep.

[Opti]

The previous ICANN policy allowed us to deny requests to transfer your domain names to another
registrar unless you explicitly confirmed to us your intent to transfer. The new ICANN policy
removes that protection. Starting November 12, when we receive a request to transfer your domain
name to a new registrar, we will still attempt to contact you to confirm that you authorized the
request. However, if you do not respond, or are not able to respond within 5 days, your domain name
WILL be transferred.

I "think" ICANN is jumping on Go-Daddy for their predatory business practices in making it too hard to transfer a domain out of their registery system...

Scammers havent had ANY trouble working within GoDaddy's old system they seem to suggest provided some sort of protection.



GoDaddy Suck.... Yay For Icann! I hope ICANN force them to stop helping and profiting from copyright thieves next!

[ArtWilliams]

Sounds like their lawyers missed this one. They have their asses sued when a big name gets "transfered" to someone else. Bet this policy doesn't last long!

-- Art Williams
http://www.mature-milf-porn.com

[Trax]

Thank god I locked my domains previously already!

[DMc]

|goodidea

Rather than immediately panicking over domains being stolen or speculating on whether ICANN is "jumping on" GoDaddy for predatory business practices you may want to read the information first hand from ICANN's site:

http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

[Cleo]

1) Do Not Use GoDaddy
2) Lock All Your Domains

[darksoft]

How anyone can consider a bad decision on ICANN's part to be GoDaddys fault is seriously beyond me.

[ClubPussy.com]

I'm glad I don't use their crappy service.

There are so many horror stories involving them.

[Tommy]

I dont like godaddy

but it looks like its gonna be policy for every regestar

http://domaintimes.net/newseng.php?m...&mhnews_page=1

[venturi]

Sheesh! Puleeze people!!!

GoDaddy sucks because they so far are the only registrar, we know of so far, to proactively notify their customers that ICANN - you know, the RULING BODY on domain registrations - has instituted a new policy that affects how GoDaddy, and every other registrar, can protect their customers from fraudulent transfers?

Most, if not all, of you would still be clueless about the new ICANN Regulation Changes if GoDaddy's email hadn't been posted on just about every business board out there.

How about you say "Thank You GoDaddy for keeping us up to date on regulations!" instead of trying to yet again unjustifiably slander a successful and respected business - who by the way showed an increase in revenue of over 8,500% in the past year.

I'm not saying GoDaddy is the golden calf or anything. I'm just saying that I've never seen a legitimate claim made against them and definitely not one that was ever taken to court.

Now then lets play nice and

[GeorgeTH]

Even worse: emails I get from godaddy usually go into the SPAM folder, directed there by my mail host (due to an incomplete header) - so they're really easy to miss!

[Cliff]

123 reg just made a similar announcement but is locking all domains as a default

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by Cleo
1) Do Not Use GoDaddy
2) Lock All Your Domains

And Jim & I are prof that it does actually work! I have a domain of his in my name & he put in a request to transfer it back to his account at Directnic & they told him that I had to 1st unlock the domain before they could do anything. So, it does work

[Ann Omness]

According to spacereg.com where I have most of my domains registered, the new ICANN policy applies to all the registrars and only affects .com and .net domains. While it is true that the registrar being transferred FROM is required to approve the transfer if they DON'T hear from you, the policy requires the registrar being transferred TO to deny the transfer request unless they DO receive a confirmation email from the domain owner or administrator. So, you still have to actively confirm a transfer at one end of the deal before it can take place. That protection is still there.

ICANN's intent was to prevent unethical registrars from holding domains hostage by claiming that they never received the transfer confirmation. That won't fly under the new rules. The question is: will unethical registrars approve transfers TO them without the confirmation? I guess we'll see. Locking your domains is probably still a good idea if your registrar offers that option, and has an easy way for you to unlock them when you want to move them.

I unlocked two domains at Network Solutions earlier this week. It took two days for that change to propagate before I could actually start the transfer process. Don't wait until the day your domain is expiring to transfer it.

[darksoft]

Network Solutions held one of our domains hostage for over a year. It was the only one we couldn't get transferred elsewhere, the rat bastards. I can't believe people still deal with them.

[Ann Omness]

I still have some domains at Network Solutions. I've been transferring them out gradually as they come up for renewal. I don't think they were intentionally holding domains hostage. I think they had a problem with their system not sending out the emails to us so that we could confirm. I didn't receive any of those emails for two years and told them about the problem repeatedly. That's the main reason I started moving my domains away from them. I'd always have to wait a couple of days after initiating a transfer and then call Network Solutions to get them to approve it at their end.

A couple of months ago, I suddenly started getting their confirmation emails again. Go figure.

[Opti]

Originally posted by Ann Omness
I still have some domains at Network Solutions. I've been transferring them out gradually as they come up for renewal. I don't think they were intentionally holding domains hostage. I think they had a problem with their system not sending out the emails to us so that we could confirm. I didn't receive any of those emails for two years and told them about the problem repeatedly. That's the main reason I started moving my domains away from them. I'd always have to wait a couple of days after initiating a transfer and then call Network Solutions to get them to approve it at their end.

A couple of months ago, I suddenly started getting their confirmation emails again. Go figure.

LOL.. You get e-mails!!! Nice one... do you think you can rely on them letting you know by email if changes are made?

As your account is defintitely getting emails at the moment... would you please test something if you get a moment? Unlock a domain and re-lock it and see if they send you an email?

[Ms Naughty]

I think ICANN's policy change was more directed at places like TotalNIC, which was holding numerous domains hostage because you couldn't unlock them (unless you sent off a form, signed in triplicate, signed by a notary, that waived all your rights, and begged them to screw you in the ass while it was at it)

I'm pleased to say that a few weeks ago TotalNIC gave their domain database to a mob called PacNames, who - if nothing else - offer renewals at $9. I'd say this has happened because of the new ICANN ruling.

Of course, it does leave an opening for unscrupulous operators...

[BigJohn]

Originally posted by darksoft
How anyone can consider a bad decision on ICANN's part to be GoDaddys fault is seriously beyond me.

Exactly!!!
This is NOT a godaddy thing, it's an ICANN thing. At least godaddy saw fit to send me the email and make is stupidly simple to lock my domains! I can't say the same for other registrars....

In fact, at Register.com I had a HELL of a time getting them to lock my domain. Nothing visible on their website unless you dig a bit... Then, even after following their instructions, they came back and said they don't lock domains and that I had nothing to worry about. After I pointed out that I followed THEIR instructions to request the lock, their tune changed but it still took 4 days for them to actually lock it.

Godaddy may not be perfect, but they are not the cause of this and at least they're on the ball!

[darksoft]

Originally posted by BigJohn
Exactly!!!
This is NOT a godaddy thing, it's an ICANN thing. At least godaddy saw fit to send me the email and make is stupidly simple to lock my domains! I can't say the same for other registrars....

In fact, at Register.com I had a HELL of a time getting them to lock my domain. Nothing visible on their website unless you dig a bit... Then, even after following their instructions, they came back and said they don't lock domains and that I had nothing to worry about. After I pointed out that I followed THEIR instructions to request the lock, their tune changed but it still took 4 days for them to actually lock it.

Godaddy may not be perfect, but they are not the cause of this and at least they're on the ball!

I've been one of the lucky few it seems. GoDaddy has been great for me the past few years. Their locking and unlocking works flawlessly do far and is very easy to find. They've come a long way over the past couple of years with making thier user interface easier to use. It's a far cry from how it used to be.

[selena]

I use GoDaddy as well, and feel that the interface is very easy to understand. I've had every domain locked since it's purchase.

I do think there is one thing they could do to tighten things up a bit. That is have a system rather like a double opt in in place for any changes to the account. Say I want to unlock my domain or change the email address associated with the account. The only way the changes would go through was if a confirmation link was clicked in an email that was sent to the current email associated with the account.

I know alot of people have had issues with them, and if I had a big, valuable domain, I might not use them. But so far, I've had no troubles, and I know the domain locking is working, because I have tried to switching it to another registrar as a test.