Niche sites or Amateur

pindilly · 2006-01-19, 11:37 PM

I was curious as to what the general outlook on niches are among the diffrent boards and respective members...
1.BBW
2.Milf
3.swingers
are these sites a niche or a micro niche of amateur to you...

optional question is are these niches you promote and see profit in or not?

Greenguy · 2006-01-20, 07:22 AM

I've always thought that there are general sites, pornstar sites, amateur sites & gay sites, where pretty much every niche can be associated with each.

Example:
Chubby BBW is a general bbw site
BBW Hot Movies is a pornstar bbw site (sorta)
Curvy Angel is an amateur bbw site
(and I'm sure there's a fat gay site out there, but I can't find it right now)

furrygirl · 2006-01-20, 10:20 PM

I'm not sure exactly what your question is, but I'll give you my two cents as someone who's been running an "amateur/niche/fetish" site for 3 years.

Pick something that you love, something that turns *you* on. Sell what you *know*, not what seems like the latest fad. Don't pick a certain niche because some board tells you that it's profitable. I see so many niche/fetish sites run by people who obviously don't understand their audience in the least bit, and I can't imagine they convert that well. Selling something you know and love will be more fun, and in the long run, should be more profitable, too.

JohnWebcams.com · 2006-01-21, 01:28 AM

there is of course going to be profit in every niche.. You can cross promote rather easily as well using small thumbs and text links in your pages..

To answer your question, I would say they are individual niches, but that doesn't mean to say you can't sell milfs on the same page as bbws through text links, etc

bDok · 2006-01-21, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pindilly

I was curious as to what the general outlook on niches are among the diffrent boards and respective members...
1.BBW
2.Milf
3.swingers
are these sites a niche or a micro niche of amateur to you...

optional question is are these niches you promote and see profit in or not?

There is money to be made in all the niches. Just filter the traffic to the niche. You might have the site/page/blog/hub (whateva) centered on Tig All Bitty Pornstars, but you can have links sprinkled around with other niches to filter the traffic to a page/site/blog etc. that centers around other shit. So you provide the surfers with options if they don't see something they want on the current niche. Or trade links to other stuff...just to get a surfer to what he wants and hopefully what the surfer wants to pull the wallet out for.

Cheers,
B

Geezer · 2006-01-21, 06:28 AM

I think you could say they were all amateur if they are presented that way. I mean if you have a MILF site and all the content looks like an amateur has taken the pics and they are not in a studio then it would be amateur, same with the others.

I would always put "swingers" as amateur though.

Surfn · 2006-01-21, 08:17 AM

I agree with GG that they are general in nature. You can make them anything you like.

tickler · 2006-01-21, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I've always thought that there are general sites, pornstar sites, amateur sites & gay sites, where pretty much every niche can be associated with each.

I'm never really sure where to draw the line between pornstar and amateur though. And they can also have Str8 or Gay categories.

Greenguy · 2006-01-22, 12:58 AM

Pornstars shoto in a studio...amateurs shoot in their bedrooms

Linkster · 2006-01-22, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I've always thought that there are general sites, pornstar sites, amateur sites & gay sites, where pretty much every niche can be associated with each.

I agree that these are the "top" of the food chain although I would add in Fetish as the other top category - then all the niches would fall under those although they can fit under any top category as in your examples.

For the original post I would definitely not call those micro-niches - they are second level general categories - wheras a micro-niche might be "milf swinger midgets"

Greenguy · 2006-01-22, 08:49 AM

Linkster - I've always felt that there are fetishes off of those - hell, some people consider anal sex a "fetish"

Linkster · 2006-01-22, 10:25 AM

Greenie - I agree - I guess its an old standard Ive always used on the biz side to try to distinguish the terms fetish and niche as different items

Far-L · 2006-01-26, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pindilly

I was curious as to what the general outlook on niches are among the diffrent boards and respective members...
1.BBW
2.Milf
3.swingers
are these sites a niche or a micro niche of amateur to you...

optional question is are these niches you promote and see profit in or not?

These are typically niche subsets of amateur. Milf is the most popular of the bunch but oddly "swinger" used to be the same as "milf". BBW is also quite popular though you would never guess it from the way that ignorant webmasters scorn it.

GunnCat · 2006-01-28, 10:48 AM

I think it's time to rethink amateur. I have been promting nichebucks for 4 years now and I have noticed the quality of content getting better and better. I notice this with sponsors like ATK also.
So what is amateur? Back in the old days it was easy to spot this type of content and there are still plenty of amateur sites out there, but when I think about 'mature' or milf, amateur doesn't come to mind anymore.
Thoughts on this one?

pindilly · 2006-02-03, 04:14 PM

taking all the comments into consideration i have a few questions... if a BBW shoots in a studio she is then a pornstar??
is milf and mature the same??
will a webmaster that promotes BBW make money even if he doesnt like to look at it?

Surfn · 2006-02-03, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pindilly

taking all the comments into consideration i have a few questions... if a BBW shoots in a studio she is then a pornstar??
is milf and mature the same??
will a webmaster that promotes BBW make money even if he doesnt like to look at it?

lol of course you can make money even if you don't "care" for the niche. I you really loathe it I doubt you can. It's always easier to promote something you like. lol

Hotrocket · 2006-02-03, 05:50 PM

I have to agree with GunnCat..I hardly ever find true amateur style content on the majority of sponsors so called "amateur" paysites..the pics look way too professional anymore..there are a few out there that do have the right looking content..but even some solo girl sites have totally gone towards the perfectly lit, pornstar style, photoshopped image look with their content...Does the avg surfer see this and realize the difference? probably not, but the true amateur lover will pass those sites by.

Now the MILF thing..in my opinion a milf is 30 to about 45..but I see plenty of 23-5 year olds being presented as a milf... sure they could have kids but to me thats a stretch and hard to sell...
and these days mature content, which used to be the milf age range, is almost always pushing granny age women...lol

Things have changed over the last few years, and in some ways I think the lines have blurred a bit too much..probably brought on by the "Reality" type of sites which could be any age model.

I do true amateur and its getting harder to find good sites with the right content and style to promote.

Back to the original topic...I think BBW, MILF and Swingers are their own niches (especialy with SE traffic) and thats the targeted audience you want to go after..not so much the general amateur niche traffic. They COULD and ARE part of the amateur category..but really MILF's and BBW's could be presented as glossy pornstar style content as well.

Swingers? they are really a seperate niche of their own..and closer to amateur than anything else.

2006-01-19, 11:37 PM	#1
pindilly Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: florida Posts: 26	Niche sites or Amateur I was curious as to what the general outlook on niches are among the diffrent boards and respective members... 1.BBW 2.Milf 3.swingers are these sites a niche or a micro niche of amateur to you... optional question is are these niches you promote and see profit in or not? __________________ Tommy BIO Cash Affiliate Program coming soon

2006-01-20, 07:22 AM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	I've always thought that there are general sites, pornstar sites, amateur sites & gay sites, where pretty much every niche can be associated with each. Example: Chubby BBW is a general bbw site BBW Hot Movies is a pornstar bbw site (sorta) Curvy Angel is an amateur bbw site (and I'm sure there's a fat gay site out there, but I can't find it right now) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-01-20, 10:20 PM	#3
furrygirl No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 281	I'm not sure exactly what your question is, but I'll give you my two cents as someone who's been running an "amateur/niche/fetish" site for 3 years. Pick something that you love, something that turns you on. Sell what you know, not what seems like the latest fad. Don't pick a certain niche because some board tells you that it's profitable. I see so many niche/fetish sites run by people who obviously don't understand their audience in the least bit, and I can't imagine they convert that well. Selling something you know and love will be more fun, and in the long run, should be more profitable, too. __________________ furrygirl.com & vegporn.com & vegsexshop.com & eroticred.com

2006-01-21, 01:28 AM	#4
JohnWebcams.com A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 50	there is of course going to be profit in every niche.. You can cross promote rather easily as well using small thumbs and text links in your pages.. To answer your question, I would say they are individual niches, but that doesn't mean to say you can't sell milfs on the same page as bbws through text links, etc __________________ $42+ PPS / ICQ: 476-111

2006-01-21, 06:28 AM	#6
Geezer WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 43	I think you could say they were all amateur if they are presented that way. I mean if you have a MILF site and all the content looks like an amateur has taken the pics and they are not in a studio then it would be amateur, same with the others. I would always put "swingers" as amateur though. __________________

2006-01-21, 08:17 AM	#7
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I agree with GG that they are general in nature. You can make them anything you like. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-01-22, 12:58 AM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	Pornstars shoto in a studio...amateurs shoot in their bedrooms __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-01-22, 08:49 AM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	Linkster - I've always felt that there are fetishes off of those - hell, some people consider anal sex a "fetish" __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-01-22, 10:25 AM	#12
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Greenie - I agree - I guess its an old standard Ive always used on the biz side to try to distinguish the terms fetish and niche as different items __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-01-28, 10:48 AM	#14
GunnCat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 547	I think it's time to rethink amateur. I have been promting nichebucks for 4 years now and I have noticed the quality of content getting better and better. I notice this with sponsors like ATK also. So what is amateur? Back in the old days it was easy to spot this type of content and there are still plenty of amateur sites out there, but when I think about 'mature' or milf, amateur doesn't come to mind anymore. Thoughts on this one?

2006-02-03, 04:14 PM	#15
pindilly Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: florida Posts: 26	taking all the comments into consideration i have a few questions... if a BBW shoots in a studio she is then a pornstar?? is milf and mature the same?? will a webmaster that promotes BBW make money even if he doesnt like to look at it? __________________ Tommy BIO Cash Affiliate Program coming soon

2006-02-03, 05:50 PM	#17
Hotrocket Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4	I have to agree with GunnCat..I hardly ever find true amateur style content on the majority of sponsors so called "amateur" paysites..the pics look way too professional anymore..there are a few out there that do have the right looking content..but even some solo girl sites have totally gone towards the perfectly lit, pornstar style, photoshopped image look with their content...Does the avg surfer see this and realize the difference? probably not, but the true amateur lover will pass those sites by. Now the MILF thing..in my opinion a milf is 30 to about 45..but I see plenty of 23-5 year olds being presented as a milf... sure they could have kids but to me thats a stretch and hard to sell... and these days mature content, which used to be the milf age range, is almost always pushing granny age women...lol Things have changed over the last few years, and in some ways I think the lines have blurred a bit too much..probably brought on by the "Reality" type of sites which could be any age model. I do true amateur and its getting harder to find good sites with the right content and style to promote. Back to the original topic...I think BBW, MILF and Swingers are their own niches (especialy with SE traffic) and thats the targeted audience you want to go after..not so much the general amateur niche traffic. They COULD and ARE part of the amateur category..but really MILF's and BBW's could be presented as glossy pornstar style content as well. Swingers? they are really a seperate niche of their own..and closer to amateur than anything else.