COPA decision today...

[xxxjay]

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=41639

Could be a big one.

[Phoenix]

this is obviously a touchy subject...while it is good to stand up for the freedom of speech and so forth. It comes to a question of judgement on whther or not to allow that to cover everything.

I doubt it will affect sales, it is not like surfers are going to stop looking for porn just because there are more warning pages

[xxxjay]

If this shit goes wrong, we are looking at 6 months in jail / 50k fine PER "obscene" image.

[airdick]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...us_online_porn

Looks like we dodged the bullet this time.

[digifan]

Yep that was close but they rejected it again.

I have another Yahoo link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...pornography_dc

let me copy it here they change and disappear so fast..

Supreme Court Bars Internet Porn Law Enforcement

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A divided U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday barred enforcement of a 1998 federal law designed to keep Internet pornography away from minors because it likely violates constitutional free-speech rights.

By a 5-4 vote, the high court handed a defeat to the U.S. Justice Department in a case that has pitted free-speech rights against efforts by Congress to protect minors from online pornography.

[Wazza]

Good stuff

[Ramster]

Looks like it didn't make it but could you imagine the effect it would have had on TGPs that trade via a script? Prod would die so bad and the thumb sites would have been hit big.

[xxxjay]

Great news - we are all safe for now.

[Boogie]

I'd like to say I'm not suprised, but truly I am. I was shaking in my boots with this one.

couldnt be happier though I'd be interested in seeing the changes that happened if this went through. I wouldnt be happy with any arrests tho, so lets keep this bitch on the downlow :p haha.

[kristian]

Filtering is, obviously, our prefered resolution but it's also inherently flawed.

How about this for an idea. If you own an adult site, you have to add a piece if unseen script to each page. Filtering software - in libraries, schools, etc - will automatically block sites with that code. Then, naturally, adult sites found without the code could be prosecuted and fined.

What do you think?

[Bill]

It's been suggested before kristian.

But it's obviously too intelligent and sensible to catch on.

If the gummit established a universal standard meta tag that all filters could recognize 90% of adult webmasters would adopt it in a second. 100% of all legitimate webmasters.

[kristian]

Originally posted by Bill
It's been suggested before kristian.

But it's obviously too intelligent and sensible to catch on.

If the gummit established a universal standard meta tag that all filters could recognize 90% of adult webmasters would adopt it in a second. 100% of all legitimate webmasters.

It seems like such a simple idea which would solve the problem practically over night. All I can think is they have a witch hunt agenda. Maybe when they've put a few of us in jail, they'll get round to doing the sensible thing.

[Surfn]

The solution is simple. Parents and educators take responsibility for their children do parenting and teaching. Why should software and laws be passed to do what is simply good parenting.

[vmp22]

does it bother anyone that the law was barely struck down on a 5-4 vote. and also the weird fact that Justice Thomas was with the majority this time and Justice Stevens (who usually votes to uphold free speech) was in the dissent this time. if it comes back to the Supreme Court again, do you think it might be the opposite result?

[Monkey Spanker]

The sad thing is it would only affect US webmasters, that is why making it law would be utterly useless. The filtering idea is the best solution I have seen so far and like has been posted already it makes too much sense so it will never come to pass.

Eventually it would affect others because the CC and billing companies would start enforcing I am sure to keep their other interests happy. Which would effect other webmasters also.

[xxxjay]

On a side note - this is great that we won this thing, but now is not the time to get lazy and start sucking each others dicks.

They will try to take us down again - believe that.

[kristian]

Originally posted by xxxjay
On a side note - this is great that we won this thing, but now is not the time to get lazy and start sucking each others dicks.

They will try to take us down again - believe that.

I seriously doubt they'll ever put a stop to legitimate internet porn. The industry will adapt.

[D-man]

It's not over just kicked back to a lower court -

The never ending copa drama -

[Linkster]

D-Man - Hi and welcome back
Yep that goes back to the District court for trial now - gives the Gov't and others the chance to show why this is a better way to restrict access than filtering software or other tech devices. Of course the DOJ hasnt specifically addressed whether they will follow through with this yet - they are being kinda tight lipped about it so far - kinda makes sense in an election year

[D-man]

Originally posted by Linkster
D-Man - Hi and welcome back
Yep that goes back to the District court for trial now - gives the Gov't and others the chance to show why this is a better way to restrict access than filtering software or other tech devices. Of course the DOJ hasnt specifically addressed whether they will follow through with this yet - they are being kinda tight lipped about it so far - kinda makes sense in an election year

Glad to be back - maybe I'll explain where I have been hiding
sometime

While COPA is a good idea at some point, it's method is what was off - sure protect the kids by all means but not at all costs.

I'm less worried about COPA then I would be about Ashcroft - we will have a problem on our hands if he stays in office 4 more years and continues his porn crusade

[Mishi]

Originally posted by D-man
It's not over just kicked back to a lower court -

The never ending copa drama -

Bears repeating because I've seen a lot of people saying COPA was "struck down" - to my understanding, no, it was not. Essentially the SC just refused to rule on it, and passed the buck.

Filtering is already available - see ICRA. Unfortunately, not many are using the tags. This is a case where self-regulation would serve us well.

[Mishi]

Originally posted by D-man
I'm less worried about COPA then I would be about Ashcroft - we will have a problem on our hands if he stays in office 4 more years and continues his porn crusade

In a word: word.

[kane]

the amazing thing is that, even though the court itself said it in the descision, the lawmakers refuse to realize that if they force US based webmasters to censor everything, they will only be blocking about 40% on the porn online.