I turned my son in - Page 2

sue-fl · 2006-07-11, 06:26 PM

Well I have to say, these posts have made my day thanks to all of you. It's ok if some of you don't agree with what I did, and have a right to say so. Tommy you are proof that you can disagree with someone without having to bash them that I respect very much.

Just so you all know when my son first got arrested, we put him into counseling. It is now a fact that that didn't work, he chose the path he wanted to take. We did all we could for him but to no avail, so I did what I had to do. Hard to do hell ya, the hardest thing I've ever done. But I have gotten a lot of messages today along with the posts here. A lot of stories how what I did changed quite a few lives for the better for someone they knew. That is what I'm hoping for with my son. So thanks again for all the support you guys rock

sue-fl · 2006-07-11, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee

Sue I can really feel for you guys. I have a daughter that's 24 and will be off parole when she's in her early forties if she doesn't F*@# up again. Tough love now is better than tough love later. She started out selling baggies which I though was no big deal when her snowball finally petered out it cost thousands to keep the little dummy from being charged with racketeering. A little scare in the beginning would have probably made her act differently later on. Her life is pretty well shot and at a very early age. I hope you intervened in time. My thoughts are with you.
Zee

Zee I just saw this post and it means a lot to hear it from a parent who's going threw it thanks so much for posting that. Nathan had already gone from just pot to selling pills to also, who knows what would be next. Thanks again Zee

Kinky · 2006-07-11, 08:51 PM

hopefully it will work out for the best in the long run Sue, my thoughts are with you sweety

juggernaut · 2006-07-11, 09:34 PM

Sue I have been there 1st hand. My bro was in that realm of life and tossed so much away. Now he is almost 40 an can't do shit with his life because of selling for over 1/2 of it. Yes the money is good, but the problem comes when they don't get caught. Time goes by, the money piles up and then when they do get in trouble, the money is there to help them out. My bro has been nabbed roughly 3 times, and each time money helped him get off. It got to the point where if I or anyone else in my family got pulled over, we were pulled out of our cars and frisked just cause we were related. He never learned cause he never had to do hard time. 10 days in county jail is joke, they learn the system, postpone court dates till Monday mornings (when they know county is comming for sure) they do this cause if they plead guilty by 9am they can be in county by 10am and out on the wrist/ancle braclet program by 12 noon. Sitting in their own house, eating their own food, etc.
I woke up one morning to a masive bang outside my bedroom door only to find my brother flopping around on the floor with blood comming from his ears, eyes, nose and mouth. Thank god for 8th grade health class or else I would never been able to save him. My dad was yelling at him while flopping, my mom was crying, dogs barking all the while the only one doing anything was me. When my brother came out of the hospital he told us he was freebaseing for 3 days in his room, saw spiders crawling all over him, freaked out and can't remember anymore.
I'm not saying you did the right thing, lord knows my parents tried everything, doctors, consuling, kicking him out, etc. Nothing works. It takes the person to want to change. Today life is fucked up, kids can wind up in jail for 20 years for having 1/8 of weed, instead of getting help. I can only recommed 1 thing for your son. He needs to 1st realize he needs to change. Maybe this turning him in will help. Also if you are smart you will tell him to tell the courts he has a drug problem and needs help. All the drugs were his. NEVER NEVER NEVER SAY YOU WERE SELLING IT. He will go away for a long time and return very very changed. He will not be the son you know. I have a friend sitting in jail right now for cutting of a cab drivers head off due to drugs. No joke. What's really sad is when he finnaly does wake up, it might be too late. My bro has wanted to clean up his life for over 10 years and and every time he gets close, something in his mind either scares him or makes him think he needs to go back to his old ways for money. I have held over 400k in a safe deposit box for him for over 5 years, of which it's all gone. Gone cause he tried to clean up and got no place. He bought a lawn cutting business which was going very well for him, 3k per week. Then one day he got tired of waking up, sold it and went back to his old life.
What you did was not bad. Repairing the damage will be rough. In the end your son will realize either in jail or on his own what you were trying to do. He will come back to you and say he is sorry. It just takes time. Be there for him like a mom is, that's all you can do.

Tommy · 2006-07-11, 09:43 PM

I was thinking about this

just cause he told you hes selling doesnt prove him guilty in a court of law
if push comes to shove its really he said she said bull shit
and you said you only found traces, which is really nothing

not sellable weight

he might get another slap on the wrist

sue-fl · 2006-07-11, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

I was thinking about this

just cause he told you hes selling doesnt prove him guilty in a court of law
if push comes to shove its really he said she said bull shit
and you said you only found traces, which is really nothing

not sellable weight

he might get another slap on the wrist

I wish it was that simple Tommy. He had 31 grams of pot, bottle of pills which I have no idea what they were, scales and baggies. They did not catch him selling though, and he's not charge with selling as of yet. As of right now he has 2 felonies and 2 misdemeanors. I don't think the pot will get him in a whole lot of trouble but the pills and intent to sell won't help.

Damn juggernaut that was a horror story you went threw! That sure isn't the kind of life I want for my son, or the rest of my family. I'm just tired and at my wits end with him the change in him in one year is unreal. Of course I'll be here for him always he knows that. He calls us collect 3 to 4 times a day, he won't talk to me but will talk to his dad which I understand.

juggernaut · 2006-07-11, 11:02 PM

Well Sue it will get better, but 1st you have to get him out of where he is. Jail is a good wake up call but at that age a few days should do the job. My parents never did that to my brother and I know I have heard them saying maybe they should have. You son is not condemed to this life. He is young and the felonies mean nothing if he is not convicted. He will still be able to get a job, and hell I know many people would dis-agree but if worse comes to worse the military is always an option. I have seen it clean up gang bangers first hand. But I wont go there just saying it's an option. The reason I told you about him telling the courts that he has a problem is not to teach him to lie or pay for the wrong things he has done. It's only to allow you as a family to start repairing this. My family is fine now, but durring that time it was ripped apart due to my brothers actions. You can stop this. My brother often says if my parents took a more active role (IE riding his ass 24/7) he might not have ended up like this. He does not blame them or anyone else, he just wishes at a time when he was dumb and thought he knew everything he had a stong adult figure to force him in a differant direction. You have made the 1st step in opening his eyes as to your feelings about what he is doing. Let's not forget, if he was selling out of your house and the place got raided you could have lost that along with your son. Your next step is to keep him out of jail and have the courts force rehab on him, after that probation might help, but it's up to your whole family to support this. Ride his ass like cheap pony, everyone had to. Don't let him forget what has happened and what can happen if he falls off track. And most of all keep him away from the bad friends. If you can talk to any friends he has or had who do not deal with drugs. Let them also know you and he need their help. Good luck to you, try to sleep even tho you wont. Life goes on as long as you work together as a family you can get though it, lots of families have.

Cleo · 2006-07-11, 11:04 PM

Anyone that thinks jail is going to rehab someone has never did time in jail.

Those that have done time refer to it as college. It's a great place to make contacts, learn new criminal activities, toughen up and learn the finer art of crime.

Florida has some pretty harsh drug laws. Chances are he will do some time and then be let out on probation. Most people that I know that have been on probation manage to violate probation and end up back in jail and then the whole cycle repeats when they are let out on probation again.

Once you are in the legal system it is very hard to ever get on with your life.

Sounds to me like you called the police on your son out of anger and frustration with him. Guess you have shown him not to fuck with you now.

Rick1234 · 2006-07-12, 04:59 AM

Mother is always a mother! She always think wat is good and right for her children... Sue I really admire what your have did! Love is not always measured thru material things, teaching children good things, providing what your children needs, but love is sometimes a sacrifice.. sacrifice to set thing apart and learn that getting separated with your loveones is not always the end of things.. but its sometimes a way to realize that there are certain mistakes that we have to track in our lives - the right one!

WarBot · 2006-07-12, 06:25 AM

I think you did the right thing. I feel like I wasted 20 years of my life selling and doing drugs. I look back and have soooo many regrets... Unfortunately those 20 years are gone and theres no turning back the clock and re-doing them. And I HAVE done some time and its definately no college for criminals. Between the gangbangers and the crazies I was scared shitless 99% of the time.

Evil Chris · 2006-07-12, 02:40 PM

I hope it all works out for you Sue.
I'm sure your decision wasn't an easy one.

pornrex · 2006-07-12, 07:27 PM

Sue - can you live with the decision? With its consequences?
I would have gone the intervention route personally but then again it all happened so fast, the panic, the fear...who knows how anyone of us would have reacted.

sue-fl · 2006-07-12, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pornrex

Sue - can you live with the decision? With its consequences?
I would have gone the intervention route personally but then again it all happened so fast, the panic, the fear...who knows how anyone of us would have reacted.

Yes I can live with my decision. The consequences that will be the tough part, as I know there is a good possibility that jail will make him worse when he gets out. It didn't really happen that fast, I've been watching him go down hill for a while. He's been in counseling since his first arrest, was grounded, lost the car, his tv, his pc etc. He seemed to be doing great so got some of his privileges back. It was just for show though as we soon found out. I really feel and it breaks my heart to feel this way, that he is not going to change. I had to do something drastic to hope he does. Some people have said I should have put him in the Armed Services. I would have tried to go that route but he was born with Hemophilia so could never get in. I did what I felt I had to do.

JoeBlack · 2006-07-12, 11:18 PM

I am not a parent but I would never turn my child in any case. I would get him help first because sending him to jail is the end of his life no matter what anyone says.

No more voting for him
No more chance to change and get a government job
No more chance at getting a high level job without them thinking he is a criminal.

He is 18 you could have kicked him out or sent him to boot camp. Flush his stash everytime you found it.

Your telling me in 18 years you could tell he was so far gone that there was no other choice but to send him to jail because he sold some drugs. There was no turning back from his life of crime as a drug dealer?

Im sorry to sound harse and I know you guys mean well by being supportive but thats something she and her son will have to live with forever.

sue-fl · 2006-07-13, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBlack

I am not a parent but I would never turn my child in any case. I would get him help first because sending him to jail is the end of his life no matter what anyone says.

Ok don't mind if some people disagree, but damn did you read any of my posts before you wrote that? I did get him help, I didn't just turn him in without trying. I know there are people who have changed their lives in jail, who learned from it and never want to go back there. I'm hoping as he is young and probably scared to death that he will think and change. Is that really so wrong to hope for that for him? It's easy to say you wouldn't do it, but until your a parent and in a situation such as this you really can't say that.

But thanks all of you for your opinions and support I appreciate them all, if you agree or disagree. Do I think I made the perfect decision and everything will be perfect hell no!!

Halfdeck · 2006-07-13, 12:36 AM

I had a friend who used to deal drugs when he was a teenager. His mom found a stash of cash in his socks drawer one day, and said "where the fuck did all this money come from?" She took all of it and the next day she bought herself a brand new car. She eventually kicked him out of his house. Did he stop dealing drugs? No.

What's funny is I know another guy who lost a daughter to a coke overdose but he still deals drugs. When money starts talking there's no shutting it up.

JoeBlack · 2006-07-13, 01:13 AM

Like I said im sorry to sound harse but putting him in prison with the real bad people in order to scare him straight or have him turn out worse or messed up in the head is a gamble im not sure most would be willing to take, but I hope everything works out the way you think it will and I hope some day he can forgive you.

Good luck with everything and I wish your son the best.

jaffie · 2006-07-13, 01:15 PM

I'm so sorry to hear Sue, But i'm sure you did the right thing as a mother and may all be well ..

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Cleo · 2006-07-13, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBlack

I am not a parent but I would never turn my child in any case. I would get him help first because sending him to jail is the end of his life no matter what anyone says.

No more voting for him
No more chance to change and get a government job
No more chance at getting a high level job without them thinking he is a criminal.

He is 18 you could have kicked him out or sent him to boot camp. Flush his stash everytime you found it.

Your telling me in 18 years you could tell he was so far gone that there was no other choice but to send him to jail because he sold some drugs. There was no turning back from his life of crime as a drug dealer?

Im sorry to sound harse and I know you guys mean well by being supportive but thats something she and her son will have to live with forever.

Very well said.

Jim · 2006-07-13, 02:14 PM

People that are not parents have absolutely no idea what they would or would not do in this situation. There is nothing I wouldn't do for any of my children. And if I ever thought the only thing that would save one of their lives was to call the police, I would be on the phone in a second.

Started a post by saying "I'm not a parent but..." is all well and good. But, you really have no idea what being a parent is.

jennym · 2006-07-13, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

People that are not parents have absolutely no idea what they would or would not do in this situation. There is nothing I wouldn't do for any of my children. And if I ever thought the only thing that would save one of their lives was to call the police, I would be on the phone in a second.

Started a post by saying "I'm not a parent but..." is all well and good. But, you really have no idea what being a parent is.

Very well said.

Sue - I can't imagine having to be in that position with my kids. It certainly had to be the toughest thing you have ever done, or will do. Best of luck to your son.

Mr. Blue · 2006-07-13, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

Anyone that thinks jail is going to rehab someone has never did time in jail.

Those that have done time refer to it as college. It's a great place to make contacts, learn new criminal activities, toughen up and learn the finer art of crime.

Florida has some pretty harsh drug laws. Chances are he will do some time and then be let out on probation. Most people that I know that have been on probation manage to violate probation and end up back in jail and then the whole cycle repeats when they are let out on probation again.

Once you are in the legal system it is very hard to ever get on with your life.

Sounds to me like you called the police on your son out of anger and frustration with him. Guess you have shown him not to fuck with you now.

Yep.

Jail isn't rehab, the system is unforgiving, and he'll wear this mark for the rest of his life and it'll be a constant burden to him. Just something I'd never do, especially over some

sue-fl · 2006-07-13, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

People that are not parents have absolutely no idea what they would or would not do in this situation. There is nothing I wouldn't do for any of my children. And if I ever thought the only thing that would save one of their lives was to call the police, I would be on the phone in a second.

Started a post by saying "I'm not a parent but..." is all well and good. But, you really have no idea what being a parent is.

Very Well Said Jim

sue-fl · 2006-07-13, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

Yep.

Jail isn't rehab, the system is unforgiving, and he'll wear this mark for the rest of his life and it'll be a constant burden to him. Just something I'd never do, especially over some

He's young has time to change in jail if he wants. I talked to his attorney today he said their are programs avalible to him. It's up to him to take advantage of them.

I wouldn't turn him in over some pot either, if he was smoking it and not selling it. There is a big difference between the two.

Cleo · 2006-07-13, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sue-fl

I wouldn't turn him in over some pot either, if he was smoking it and not selling it. There is a big difference between the two.

Because he was taking away from the pot fairy and providing it to those that the pot fairy didn't think deserved it???

Could you explain this to me please? Where do you think the weed that is smoked comes from?

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between a bartender or the clerk at the liquor store or the person at 7/11 selling cigarettes, beer, and wine.

Don't give me bullshit about it being illegal.You sell porn and just like pot it is illegal in many places as is liquor. IMO pot is far less harmful then liquor or cigarettes. Maybe you son can turn your ass into the holy rollers on obscenity charges.

Good thing that you are rich because your son is going to need a shit load of money to deal with his legal mess that his loving mother has given him. Not like all that money couldn't have been used for other things… like to get your son some help… if he even needed help for his pot indulgence.

http://www.crrh.org/cannabis/

2006-07-11, 08:51 PM	#28
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2006-07-11, 09:34 PM	#29
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Sue I have been there 1st hand. My bro was in that realm of life and tossed so much away. Now he is almost 40 an can't do shit with his life because of selling for over 1/2 of it. Yes the money is good, but the problem comes when they don't get caught. Time goes by, the money piles up and then when they do get in trouble, the money is there to help them out. My bro has been nabbed roughly 3 times, and each time money helped him get off. It got to the point where if I or anyone else in my family got pulled over, we were pulled out of our cars and frisked just cause we were related. He never learned cause he never had to do hard time. 10 days in county jail is joke, they learn the system, postpone court dates till Monday mornings (when they know county is comming for sure) they do this cause if they plead guilty by 9am they can be in county by 10am and out on the wrist/ancle braclet program by 12 noon. Sitting in their own house, eating their own food, etc. I woke up one morning to a masive bang outside my bedroom door only to find my brother flopping around on the floor with blood comming from his ears, eyes, nose and mouth. Thank god for 8th grade health class or else I would never been able to save him. My dad was yelling at him while flopping, my mom was crying, dogs barking all the while the only one doing anything was me. When my brother came out of the hospital he told us he was freebaseing for 3 days in his room, saw spiders crawling all over him, freaked out and can't remember anymore. I'm not saying you did the right thing, lord knows my parents tried everything, doctors, consuling, kicking him out, etc. Nothing works. It takes the person to want to change. Today life is fucked up, kids can wind up in jail for 20 years for having 1/8 of weed, instead of getting help. I can only recommed 1 thing for your son. He needs to 1st realize he needs to change. Maybe this turning him in will help. Also if you are smart you will tell him to tell the courts he has a drug problem and needs help. All the drugs were his. NEVER NEVER NEVER SAY YOU WERE SELLING IT. He will go away for a long time and return very very changed. He will not be the son you know. I have a friend sitting in jail right now for cutting of a cab drivers head off due to drugs. No joke. What's really sad is when he finnaly does wake up, it might be too late. My bro has wanted to clean up his life for over 10 years and and every time he gets close, something in his mind either scares him or makes him think he needs to go back to his old ways for money. I have held over 400k in a safe deposit box for him for over 5 years, of which it's all gone. Gone cause he tried to clean up and got no place. He bought a lawn cutting business which was going very well for him, 3k per week. Then one day he got tired of waking up, sold it and went back to his old life. What you did was not bad. Repairing the damage will be rough. In the end your son will realize either in jail or on his own what you were trying to do. He will come back to you and say he is sorry. It just takes time. Be there for him like a mom is, that's all you can do. Last edited by juggernaut; 2006-07-11 at 09:37 PM..

2006-07-11, 09:43 PM	#30
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I was thinking about this just cause he told you hes selling doesnt prove him guilty in a court of law if push comes to shove its really he said she said bull shit and you said you only found traces, which is really nothing not sellable weight he might get another slap on the wrist __________________ Accepting New partners

2006-07-11, 11:04 PM	#33
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2006-07-12, 04:59 AM	#34
Rick1234 Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13	Mother is always a mother! She always think wat is good and right for her children... Sue I really admire what your have did! Love is not always measured thru material things, teaching children good things, providing what your children needs, but love is sometimes a sacrifice.. sacrifice to set thing apart and learn that getting separated with your loveones is not always the end of things.. but its sometimes a way to realize that there are certain mistakes that we have to track in our lives - the right one! __________________

2006-07-11, 06:26 PM	#26
sue-fl You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,837	Well I have to say, these posts have made my day thanks to all of you. It's ok if some of you don't agree with what I did, and have a right to say so. Tommy you are proof that you can disagree with someone without having to bash them that I respect very much. Just so you all know when my son first got arrested, we put him into counseling. It is now a fact that that didn't work, he chose the path he wanted to take. We did all we could for him but to no avail, so I did what I had to do. Hard to do hell ya, the hardest thing I've ever done. But I have gotten a lot of messages today along with the posts here. A lot of stories how what I did changed quite a few lives for the better for someone they knew. That is what I'm hoping for with my son. So thanks again for all the support you guys rock

2006-07-11, 11:02 PM	#32
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well Sue it will get better, but 1st you have to get him out of where he is. Jail is a good wake up call but at that age a few days should do the job. My parents never did that to my brother and I know I have heard them saying maybe they should have. You son is not condemed to this life. He is young and the felonies mean nothing if he is not convicted. He will still be able to get a job, and hell I know many people would dis-agree but if worse comes to worse the military is always an option. I have seen it clean up gang bangers first hand. But I wont go there just saying it's an option. The reason I told you about him telling the courts that he has a problem is not to teach him to lie or pay for the wrong things he has done. It's only to allow you as a family to start repairing this. My family is fine now, but durring that time it was ripped apart due to my brothers actions. You can stop this. My brother often says if my parents took a more active role (IE riding his ass 24/7) he might not have ended up like this. He does not blame them or anyone else, he just wishes at a time when he was dumb and thought he knew everything he had a stong adult figure to force him in a differant direction. You have made the 1st step in opening his eyes as to your feelings about what he is doing. Let's not forget, if he was selling out of your house and the place got raided you could have lost that along with your son. Your next step is to keep him out of jail and have the courts force rehab on him, after that probation might help, but it's up to your whole family to support this. Ride his ass like cheap pony, everyone had to. Don't let him forget what has happened and what can happen if he falls off track. And most of all keep him away from the bad friends. If you can talk to any friends he has or had who do not deal with drugs. Let them also know you and he need their help. Good luck to you, try to sleep even tho you wont. Life goes on as long as you work together as a family you can get though it, lots of families have.

2006-07-12, 06:25 AM	#35
WarBot If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 306	I think you did the right thing. I feel like I wasted 20 years of my life selling and doing drugs. I look back and have soooo many regrets... Unfortunately those 20 years are gone and theres no turning back the clock and re-doing them. And I HAVE done some time and its definately no college for criminals. Between the gangbangers and the crazies I was scared shitless 99% of the time. __________________ Submit Your TGP Galleries

2006-07-12, 02:40 PM	#36
Evil Chris My eyes are up here. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 913	I hope it all works out for you Sue. I'm sure your decision wasn't an easy one. __________________ ICQ 342827

2006-07-12, 07:27 PM	#37
pornrex feeling a bit better Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,779	Sue - can you live with the decision? With its consequences? I would have gone the intervention route personally but then again it all happened so fast, the panic, the fear...who knows how anyone of us would have reacted. __________________ colo-cation - the only host you'll need

2006-07-12, 11:18 PM	#39
JoeBlack I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 327	I am not a parent but I would never turn my child in any case. I would get him help first because sending him to jail is the end of his life no matter what anyone says. No more voting for him No more chance to change and get a government job No more chance at getting a high level job without them thinking he is a criminal. He is 18 you could have kicked him out or sent him to boot camp. Flush his stash everytime you found it. Your telling me in 18 years you could tell he was so far gone that there was no other choice but to send him to jail because he sold some drugs. There was no turning back from his life of crime as a drug dealer? Im sorry to sound harse and I know you guys mean well by being supportive but thats something she and her son will have to live with forever. Last edited by JoeBlack; 2006-07-12 at 11:23 PM..

2006-07-13, 12:36 AM	#41
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	I had a friend who used to deal drugs when he was a teenager. His mom found a stash of cash in his socks drawer one day, and said "where the fuck did all this money come from?" She took all of it and the next day she bought herself a brand new car. She eventually kicked him out of his house. Did he stop dealing drugs? No. What's funny is I know another guy who lost a daughter to a coke overdose but he still deals drugs. When money starts talking there's no shutting it up. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

2006-07-13, 01:13 AM	#42
JoeBlack I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 327	Like I said im sorry to sound harse but putting him in prison with the real bad people in order to scare him straight or have him turn out worse or messed up in the head is a gamble im not sure most would be willing to take, but I hope everything works out the way you think it will and I hope some day he can forgive you. Good luck with everything and I wish your son the best. Last edited by JoeBlack; 2006-07-13 at 01:23 AM..

2006-07-13, 01:15 PM	#43
jaffie Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 13	I'm so sorry to hear Sue, But i'm sure you did the right thing as a mother and may all be well .. support :: __________________ ICQ : 206-697-945

2006-07-13, 02:14 PM	#45
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	People that are not parents have absolutely no idea what they would or would not do in this situation. There is nothing I wouldn't do for any of my children. And if I ever thought the only thing that would save one of their lives was to call the police, I would be on the phone in a second. Started a post by saying "I'm not a parent but..." is all well and good. But, you really have no idea what being a parent is.