how many LLs do you submit freesites to?

Wiggles · 2007-01-30, 06:50 PM

lets say on average per day, since it can vary based on niche.

Maj. Stress · 2007-01-30, 07:10 PM

usually 48

Useless · 2007-01-30, 07:15 PM

3, 3 and a half.

stfuvt · 2007-01-30, 08:13 PM

just started submitting to 80 and even got rejected at some of them already
damn
I was submitting to 48 before

oldbrad · 2007-01-30, 09:15 PM

16. I'll add a few more (mainly people i see around here) but i need to build more and get invites eventually from some of them to their pass only lists. I'll need to put in the work first

Beenie · 2007-01-30, 09:57 PM

Submit to a massive 105 linklists but will need to cut it down... Don't submit every day even though I would like to - trying to do one every other day

Wiggles · 2007-01-30, 10:01 PM

I started out doing about 120 but I think i'm gonna cut it down to about 40 or so.

RedCherry · 2007-01-30, 11:47 PM

12 - 40 sites. Like you said, depends on the niche.

Tvduijn · 2007-01-31, 02:08 AM

I usually submit to 45 lists.....more then enough.

Jel · 2007-01-31, 02:40 AM

15 -30 here depending on niche. Vast majority of the time just 15 or so.

SheepGuy · 2007-01-31, 02:56 AM

Almost always 16, sometimes 12, rarely 32. But I mostly submit AVS sites, for freesites I've got it narrowed down to 24 but I might boost it to 30. Can't see any sense in going higher than that without some good partner accounts.
With freesites I might do 2 or 3 a month, AVS's are almost every day.

Danielle · 2007-01-31, 03:59 AM

Use to submit to well over 100 link lists. After analyzing sales in detail.... 99% of sales are coming from 9 link lists. So now I just submit to 9 link lists on a regular basis.

Hugs,
Danielle

stfuvt · 2007-01-31, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beenie

Submit to a massive 105 linklists but will need to cut it down... Don't submit every day even though I would like to - trying to do one every other day

How much time does ti take for you?
just curious

JackDaniel's · 2007-01-31, 08:11 AM

usually 40

skopintsev · 2007-01-31, 12:24 PM

36 LinkLists at the moment.

bDok · 2007-01-31, 12:24 PM

Started submitting a week or two ago and had a massive list. After some work getting it down into the 50s. Suspect it will eventually end up around 30-40 and will probs weed some out and some other ones in that require partner accounts.

Can't wait until I have a stock of 50+ or so templates to rotate content thru. So won't have to be designing a brand new site each day. Will just be able to edit things around.

LowryBigwood · 2007-01-31, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danielle

Use to submit to well over 100 link lists. After analyzing sales in detail.... 99% of sales are coming from 9 link lists. So now I just submit to 9 link lists on a regular basis.

Hugs,
Danielle

What 9 LL's?

I am submitting to 16-20 a day currently, but about to step it up closer to 100 a day.

Useless · 2007-01-31, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

What 9 LL's?

The only way to know which link list is responsible for a sale would be to code your free sites to catch the referrer and carry that through to sign up. I really wouldn't take advice from someone whose ass is hanging out, unless they're a plumber. It's all traffic, whether you choose to submit to 500 lists or 7 and 3/4. Generally speaking, link lists get their traffic from all the same places: SEs, bookmarkers, recip link trickle, and link swaps.

emmanuelle · 2007-01-31, 02:05 PM

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

Useless · 2007-01-31, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short. I also prefer not to create mirrors of my free sites in hopes that the SE gods and goddesses with bestow many blessings upon them. Yes, I could alter each mirror, but that falls back to whether or not one feels it's worth the extra effort. Most mass submitters simply mirror like crazy in an attempt to grab as much traffic as possible. I've wondered if it's truly worth it, from a sales standpoint, but the people who admit to submitting to all 7,000 link lists tend not to post too much and never really state its value. They must be too busy submitting.

Wiggles · 2007-01-31, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

i think you missed the point about freesites.

emmanuelle · 2007-01-31, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles

i think you missed the point about freesites.

Maybe you can fill me in then?

Useless · 2007-01-31, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles

i think you missed the point about freesites.

If you have a point, make it. What's the value of an empty remark like that? She knows full well the point of free sites and hosted free sites.

SheepGuy · 2007-01-31, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short. I also prefer not to create mirrors of my free sites in hopes that the SE gods and goddesses with bestow many blessings upon them. Yes, I could alter each mirror, but that falls back to whether or not one feels it's worth the extra effort. Most mass submitters simply mirror like crazy in an attempt to grab as much traffic as possible. I've wondered if it's truly worth it, from a sales standpoint, but the people who admit to submitting to all 7,000 link lists tend not to post too much and never really state its value. They must be too busy submitting.

I agree, I love building but I hate submitting and mirroring

I try to time my submitting so it only takes up the first period of a hockey game. I'll only mirror a site that I feel really kicks ass and since I'm my own harshest critic not many pass that test

Also, I rarely spend much time worrying about SE's unless I'm working a small niche where the competition's not too tough.

Preacher · 2007-01-31, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

2) Personally I'd have no problem listing freesites from sponsors,though I've only seen a few in the past. The main problem I see, is the same as it is for HFS, it kind of discourages me from building free sites for that sponsor for fear of redundant content.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short.

That is me to a "T".

2007-01-30, 06:50 PM	#1
Wiggles Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	how many LLs do you submit freesites to? lets say on average per day, since it can vary based on niche.

2007-01-30, 07:15 PM	#3
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2007-01-30, 08:13 PM	#4
stfuvt My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 278	just started submitting to 80 and even got rejected at some of them already damn I was submitting to 48 before __________________ Jakes Links - Submit Your Free Sites Here I am selling pornblog.ca

2007-01-30, 09:15 PM	#5
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	16. I'll add a few more (mainly people i see around here) but i need to build more and get invites eventually from some of them to their pass only lists. I'll need to put in the work first __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.

2007-01-30, 09:57 PM	#6
Beenie Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Acapulco, Mexico Posts: 117	Submit to a massive 105 linklists but will need to cut it down... Don't submit every day even though I would like to - trying to do one every other day __________________ Submit your freesites to AcaLinks.com - Linktrades? ICQ: 52-837-348

2007-01-30, 07:10 PM	#2
Maj. Stress Progress rarely comes in buckets, it normally comes in teaspoons Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dark Side Of Naboo Posts: 1,289	usually 48

2007-01-30, 10:01 PM	#7
Wiggles Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	I started out doing about 120 but I think i'm gonna cut it down to about 40 or so.

2007-01-30, 11:47 PM	#8
RedCherry Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Desert, Pahrump, NV Posts: 3,187	12 - 40 sites. Like you said, depends on the niche. __________________ Our 3D Comics and Props on Renderotica

2007-01-31, 02:08 AM	#9
Tvduijn You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try' Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160	I usually submit to 45 lists.....more then enough. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2007-01-31, 02:40 AM	#10
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	15 -30 here depending on niche. Vast majority of the time just 15 or so.

2007-01-31, 02:56 AM	#11
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Almost always 16, sometimes 12, rarely 32. But I mostly submit AVS sites, for freesites I've got it narrowed down to 24 but I might boost it to 30. Can't see any sense in going higher than that without some good partner accounts. With freesites I might do 2 or 3 a month, AVS's are almost every day. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2007-01-31, 03:59 AM	#12
Danielle Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 70	Use to submit to well over 100 link lists. After analyzing sales in detail.... 99% of sales are coming from 9 link lists. So now I just submit to 9 link lists on a regular basis. Hugs, Danielle __________________ Watch this space for something that is going to blow your mind very soon!

2007-01-31, 08:11 AM	#14
JackDaniel's I like work, it fascinates me, I can sit and look at it for hours... Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,217	usually 40 __________________ Submit Your Sites : Get Porn Links

2007-01-31, 12:24 PM	#15
skopintsev Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 154	36 LinkLists at the moment.

2007-01-31, 12:24 PM	#16
bDok bang bang Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SD/OC/LA Posts: 3,241	Started submitting a week or two ago and had a massive list. After some work getting it down into the 50s. Suspect it will eventually end up around 30-40 and will probs weed some out and some other ones in that require partner accounts. Can't wait until I have a stock of 50+ or so templates to rotate content thru. So won't have to be designing a brand new site each day. Will just be able to edit things around.

2007-01-31, 02:05 PM	#19
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions. 1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them? 2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)