Sick of reciprocals to dead or cheating TGP

jackstroker · 2011-09-03, 06:51 AM

Hey,

Are there any other TGP owners that are sick of people submitting galleries with recips to sites that are crappy? People put my recip link on their gallery along with other sites that have nothing but links that lead to 404s, sponsor galleries, traffic trades (to other crappy sites) or haven't been updated in years.

Then people complain when you don't send them 1000's of hits. How can an honest TGP send you traffic when all you do is help those crappy sites siphon the surfers away or leave them with a bad taste in their mouth towards TGP.

Remember that every time you submit to one of those types of sites you are casting a vote that you support their bull$hit.

Just some rantings from a frustrated webmaster. Thanks for listening.

Peace

Bill · 2011-09-03, 07:58 AM

It's been a while since I heard this one.

Must be much worse now - I exect there are hundreds of zombie TGPs out there nowadays.

And everyone is using the standard set of recips in their submiiter - which probably hasnt been updated in a year.

A long, long year.

Nick123 · 2011-09-03, 08:59 AM

aawww crap! Hope that wasn't one from us! We submitted to you recently but are new and may have made mistakes...sorry if we screwed up

Toby · 2011-09-03, 08:59 AM

Most of the newer TGPs don't take submitted galleries, and with many older TGPs gone or dying on the vine the number of productive TGPs that accept submitted galleries is way down. The other change I've seen over the years is a shift in submitters, to mostly non-US webmasters. Many are using as much automation as they can, in order to submit more galleries. It makes for alot of mediocre and poor quality galleries.

Three of my seven TGPs don't take submitted galleries, three others are partner only, and just one is open submit. Even on the TGPs where I take submitted galleries about 75% of the galleries listed are my own, either sponsor hosted or galleries I've built myself.

I'm up 20% YTD after two break even years, but I do realize I'm an exception and that most TGP owners are down significantly over the last few years. There's still money to be made, but these days it's much harder staying ahead of the curve.

rabidwolf · 2011-09-04, 07:09 PM

Being real new in this game have been sitting here reading and learning this industry as well as tying in what I have learned in other marketing that I have done. For the TGP I have really thought about not having any recips on them at all just to stop some of the things that you talk about but curious on if that would lower the amount of submitters since it has seemed from what I have seen that this industry can be so against change from the status quo.

Nick123 · 2011-09-05, 09:15 AM

rabidwolf
as a fellow newbie email me nick at vine-garstgp.com pls
cheers

Greenguy · 2011-09-05, 01:15 PM

I blame uneducated/lazy people using auto-submit software.

rabidwolf · 2011-09-05, 04:39 PM

Greenie how can you tell if the submitter is using an auto submit program? I haven't gottten to that part of my education is it just knowing how the program works that you can tell or can the script programs catch that type of thing (like Linkx, TGPx or any of the other programs out there).

Greenguy · 2011-09-05, 07:50 PM

rabidwolf - that's beyond me, I let my tech guy worry about that

But I will say that I do accept them if you're a trusted submitter.

rabidwolf · 2011-09-06, 02:42 AM

adding to list of things rabidwolf wants-tech guy...but honestly thank you for the response that's why I like this board because you don't get BS answers like many others that most members talk out of their rear ends to make them look big or "cool".

Greenguy · 2011-09-06, 04:11 AM

the New Shemp · 2011-09-07, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackstroker

Hey,

Are there any other TGP owners that are sick of people submitting galleries with recips to sites that are crappy? People put my recip link on their gallery along with other sites that have nothing but links that lead to 404s, sponsor galleries, traffic trades (to other crappy sites) or haven't been updated in years.

Then people complain when you don't send them 1000's of hits. How can an honest TGP send you traffic when all you do is help those crappy sites siphon the surfers away or leave them with a bad taste in their mouth towards TGP.

Remember that every time you submit to one of those types of sites you are casting a vote that you support their bull$hit.

Just some rantings from a frustrated webmaster. Thanks for listening.

Peace

its the useless auto submit software that causes the problems...

hincapie · 2011-09-13, 12:20 PM

I have a list of active/quality tgps - and make sure theyre teamed up for recips so active tgps get recipped with other actives ... it seems to work nicely with just a few adjustments/updates now and then - the good ones are pretty steady.

Asian Amateur · 2011-10-06, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick123

rabidwolf
as a fellow newbie email me nick at vine-garstgp.com pls
cheers

Hi Nick123, can I you consider me for a PA on your tgp? I did submit mostly Asian galleries.

InfoGuy · 2011-10-26, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick123

rabidwolf
as a fellow newbie email me nick at vine-garstgp.com pls
cheers

What does the plural version of vinegar have to do with porn and why did you use a hyphen in your domain name? You should use the hyphenless version or abandon it entirely and choose a more descriptive porn related keyphrase for your site. Just 301 redirect your existing traffic to the new site.

2011-09-03, 06:51 AM	#1
jackstroker Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 6	Sick of reciprocals to dead or cheating TGP Hey, Are there any other TGP owners that are sick of people submitting galleries with recips to sites that are crappy? People put my recip link on their gallery along with other sites that have nothing but links that lead to 404s, sponsor galleries, traffic trades (to other crappy sites) or haven't been updated in years. Then people complain when you don't send them 1000's of hits. How can an honest TGP send you traffic when all you do is help those crappy sites siphon the surfers away or leave them with a bad taste in their mouth towards TGP. Remember that every time you submit to one of those types of sites you are casting a vote that you support their bull$hit. Just some rantings from a frustrated webmaster. Thanks for listening. Peace __________________ \|duff\|Jack Stroker - Adult Web Portal Submit your stuff

2011-09-03, 07:58 AM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	It's been a while since I heard this one. Must be much worse now - I exect there are hundreds of zombie TGPs out there nowadays. And everyone is using the standard set of recips in their submiiter - which probably hasnt been updated in a year. A long, long year. Last edited by Bill; 2011-09-03 at 08:00 AM..

2011-09-03, 08:59 AM	#3
Nick123 Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 28	aawww crap! Hope that wasn't one from us! We submitted to you recently but are new and may have made mistakes...sorry if we screwed up __________________ Professional Horizontal Jogging is not a Dead Sport

2011-09-03, 08:59 AM	#4
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Most of the newer TGPs don't take submitted galleries, and with many older TGPs gone or dying on the vine the number of productive TGPs that accept submitted galleries is way down. The other change I've seen over the years is a shift in submitters, to mostly non-US webmasters. Many are using as much automation as they can, in order to submit more galleries. It makes for alot of mediocre and poor quality galleries. Three of my seven TGPs don't take submitted galleries, three others are partner only, and just one is open submit. Even on the TGPs where I take submitted galleries about 75% of the galleries listed are my own, either sponsor hosted or galleries I've built myself. I'm up 20% YTD after two break even years, but I do realize I'm an exception and that most TGP owners are down significantly over the last few years. There's still money to be made, but these days it's much harder staying ahead of the curve. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2011-09-05, 09:15 AM	#6
Nick123 Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 28	rabidwolf as a fellow newbie email me nick at vine-garstgp.com pls cheers __________________ Professional Horizontal Jogging is not a Dead Sport

2011-09-04, 07:09 PM	#5
rabidwolf Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 9	Being real new in this game have been sitting here reading and learning this industry as well as tying in what I have learned in other marketing that I have done. For the TGP I have really thought about not having any recips on them at all just to stop some of the things that you talk about but curious on if that would lower the amount of submitters since it has seemed from what I have seen that this industry can be so against change from the status quo.

2011-09-05, 01:15 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,764	I blame uneducated/lazy people using auto-submit software. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2011-09-05, 04:39 PM	#8
rabidwolf Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 9	Greenie how can you tell if the submitter is using an auto submit program? I haven't gottten to that part of my education is it just knowing how the program works that you can tell or can the script programs catch that type of thing (like Linkx, TGPx or any of the other programs out there).

2011-09-05, 07:50 PM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,764	rabidwolf - that's beyond me, I let my tech guy worry about that But I will say that I do accept them if you're a trusted submitter. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2011-09-06, 02:42 AM	#10
rabidwolf Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 9	adding to list of things rabidwolf wants-tech guy...but honestly thank you for the response that's why I like this board because you don't get BS answers like many others that most members talk out of their rear ends to make them look big or "cool".

2011-09-06, 04:11 AM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,764	__________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2011-09-13, 12:20 PM	#13
hincapie You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cyprus Posts: 963	I have a list of active/quality tgps - and make sure theyre teamed up for recips so active tgps get recipped with other actives ... it seems to work nicely with just a few adjustments/updates now and then - the good ones are pretty steady. __________________ Hinc Linklists/TGPs: Adult List Loasex.com