What makes or breaks a gallery?

bunky2u · 2004-12-04, 01:24 PM

OK guys, I am posting this thread in various other boards to get some info for my next article for the Adult Buzz Blog I want to hear your ideas and opinions on what makes a good gallery and will get accepted and bring in sales to the submitter.

As an Adult Webmaster; what makes or breaks a gallery? What elements makes the whole process of the gallery building a success?

Thanks for your input!

bunky2u

Check out the Blogged articles here:
Adult Buzz Blog

hermit · 2004-12-04, 02:29 PM

heres my 2 cents

from tgp owners point of view

original good quality content
(not necessarily exclusive - just stuff i havent seen a ton of times)
original fast loading gallery design
good accurate description
content fits category
nice quality thumbs
fast server

from submitters point of view

#1 - good converting paysite tour
content that makes them want to click to the sponsor for more like this - but wont quite get them to cream their jeans. even if they dont join right then they may recognize my gallery template and content quality and join if they click my next gallery

a few bad things would be

sponsor provided content that tgp owner has seen 100 times.
low quality sponsor provided screen caps (ive had a gallery submitted to my tgp that had a fuzzy out of focus screen shot of the arm of a chair and part of a foot... i got a laugh out of it that day, but some days its reason enough for me to hit the blacklist button. if the submitter wont take the time to at least examine the content on the gallery im not going to waste my time reviewing it)
not giving an accurate description, lieing on your description or a description that makes no sense. for my tgp i want a good and accurate "DESCRIPTION" of what is happening in the pics or vids. not a sales pitch, not a riddle, not a lie, just tell the surfer what the gallery is of.

thats all i can think of. basically, good content and a good paysite tour. and then all the other stuff i said

lol

docholly · 2004-12-04, 08:42 PM

almost anything that is not: Tranny Island, Backseat Bangers or Banging the boat, bus etc.

|afro|

Useless · 2004-12-05, 12:22 AM

I think simple and clean lines are important. Some submitters make the mistake of being overly creative in their design. They intentionally stagger the thumbs or use far too many colors. Staggered thumbs almost always look like the page fell apart rather than looking cool, and too many colors is just an eyesore. Two and three colors are typically best. I'd go with four at a max. Any more than that and you're a failed attempt at mimicking Picasso.

I am a believer in minimal content. I hate seeing TGPs with rules such as 20 pics minimum. I think 10-15 pics should do it. I build with 16 only because everyone makes me.

With twenty pics, you may as well drop to your knees and blow the surfer yourself. If he can't get off on 20 pics he isn't getting off on 10,000 pics either. When giving away that much you may as well post a banner that says 'don't bother with a paysite when you can get this much for free'. It's just nonsense. Also, sponsor content would last longer and be useful to more builders if there was lower minimum for galleries. If a single gallery consumes an entire new set, then only the first submitter is going to get to use it a most TGPs.

Content will always be king. In year 4099, content will still rule. Fresh content is the end all of end alls. I can't think of another redundant way of saying that.

Tasty, lively descriptions. I realize that a great many TGPs leave very little space for a description while demanding a good one. What the hell can you say in 17 characters? Christ! I want to see really good descriptions. You know, ones that actually describe the content. I hate seeing things like 'Blonde babe who wants a cock'. Wants? How do you know? Did you ask her? I realize it is an attempt at evoking a certain lustful response in the surfer, but can't you just describe it as 'Busty blonde hottie fingering her pussy' or 'Skinny little whore rubs one off'? We aren't all magicians with words and everyone runs dry. When it becomes a real pain in the balls to come up with four or five words, just scan over a TGPs already listed descriptions. That should inspire you.

bunky2u · 2004-12-05, 03:27 AM

Guys you have been giving me great responses, keep it up!

Thanks,

bunky2u

GeorgeTH · 2004-12-05, 05:56 PM

Shouldn't your avatar read:
"Two Hills - Hairy Glen" or "Hairy Valley"?

GeorgeTH · 2004-12-05, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
Tasty, lively descriptions.

If the error messages from Autogallery would be a little more detailed
I would seriously blacklist the word "posing" in all it's variations!
Unfortunately all the submitter gets is something vague like "found blacklisted words"...
Posing is such a boring word, such a static action = nothing enticing at all in it!
I probably re-write about 10 "posing" descriptions in a bad day...

hermit · 2004-12-06, 06:03 AM

what if the model is just posing?

i like the word, its honest and describes the action in alot of the galleries i see (and post). but you are probably right that it is kinda boring. maybe it would help my gallery views if i worked on my descriptions a little bit more.

Quote:

With twenty pics, you may as well drop to your knees and blow the surfer yourself.

hehe. i love that line. and i think thats a great point. this week im going to re-read all the rules and see what the minimum is. if i could get away with 15 pics that would be awesome. anyways... good points not so useless warrior and GeorgeTH.

have a good one, rl

bunky2u · 2004-12-06, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeorgeTH
Shouldn't your avatar read:
"Two Hills - Hairy Glen" or "Hairy Valley"?

Actually, this is a REAL road sign nearby where I live...
they are two very small towns. I always thought it was funny. Lots of wierd stuff in Alberta though... my home town has the worlds first UFO landing pad, built back in the '60s.
http://www.town.stpaul.ab.ca/

GeorgeTH · 2004-12-06, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hermit
this week im going to re-read all the rules and see what the minimum is. if i could get away with 15 pics that would be awesome.

I have a number of templates with 15 pictures only, and about 95% of TGPs in my submit list are fine with it - but it's still a waste of time (handsubmitting!) when you've filled in the form only to get rejected for image count!

There are site which request only 12 or so, but I guess with under 15 you'd have a hard time to get into any larger TGP.

Useless · 2004-12-06, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeorgeTH
If the error messages from Autogallery would be a little more detailed
I would seriously blacklist the word "posing" in all it's variations!

Total agreement.
Every time I see 'posing' I think 'no shit Sherlock'.

bunky2u · 2004-12-07, 03:52 AM

The answers are in! Check out what six forums have to say about building galleries...

http://www.adultbuzz.com/pblog/entry.php?id=164

Thanks guys! As always, post some input on the article, I appreciate it. ( you too UW...

)

bunky2u

Useless · 2004-12-07, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bunky2u
I appreciate it. ( you too UW... )

bunky2u

You quoted me. SWEET! (I like to hear myself talk)

bunky2u · 2004-12-07, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
You quoted me. SWEET! (I like to hear myself talk)

It was a really good quote; funny and it made a hell of a good point.

2004-12-04, 02:29 PM	#2
hermit Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: vegas Posts: 106	hi heres my 2 cents from tgp owners point of view original good quality content (not necessarily exclusive - just stuff i havent seen a ton of times) original fast loading gallery design good accurate description content fits category nice quality thumbs fast server from submitters point of view #1 - good converting paysite tour content that makes them want to click to the sponsor for more like this - but wont quite get them to cream their jeans. even if they dont join right then they may recognize my gallery template and content quality and join if they click my next gallery a few bad things would be sponsor provided content that tgp owner has seen 100 times. low quality sponsor provided screen caps (ive had a gallery submitted to my tgp that had a fuzzy out of focus screen shot of the arm of a chair and part of a foot... i got a laugh out of it that day, but some days its reason enough for me to hit the blacklist button. if the submitter wont take the time to at least examine the content on the gallery im not going to waste my time reviewing it) not giving an accurate description, lieing on your description or a description that makes no sense. for my tgp i want a good and accurate "DESCRIPTION" of what is happening in the pics or vids. not a sales pitch, not a riddle, not a lie, just tell the surfer what the gallery is of. thats all i can think of. basically, good content and a good paysite tour. and then all the other stuff i said lol __________________ Nudity Network - free porn links

2004-12-04, 08:42 PM	#3
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2004-12-05, 12:22 AM	#4
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I think simple and clean lines are important. Some submitters make the mistake of being overly creative in their design. They intentionally stagger the thumbs or use far too many colors. Staggered thumbs almost always look like the page fell apart rather than looking cool, and too many colors is just an eyesore. Two and three colors are typically best. I'd go with four at a max. Any more than that and you're a failed attempt at mimicking Picasso. I am a believer in minimal content. I hate seeing TGPs with rules such as 20 pics minimum. I think 10-15 pics should do it. I build with 16 only because everyone makes me. With twenty pics, you may as well drop to your knees and blow the surfer yourself. If he can't get off on 20 pics he isn't getting off on 10,000 pics either. When giving away that much you may as well post a banner that says 'don't bother with a paysite when you can get this much for free'. It's just nonsense. Also, sponsor content would last longer and be useful to more builders if there was lower minimum for galleries. If a single gallery consumes an entire new set, then only the first submitter is going to get to use it a most TGPs. Content will always be king. In year 4099, content will still rule. Fresh content is the end all of end alls. I can't think of another redundant way of saying that. Tasty, lively descriptions. I realize that a great many TGPs leave very little space for a description while demanding a good one. What the hell can you say in 17 characters? Christ! I want to see really good descriptions. You know, ones that actually describe the content. I hate seeing things like 'Blonde babe who wants a cock'. Wants? How do you know? Did you ask her? I realize it is an attempt at evoking a certain lustful response in the surfer, but can't you just describe it as 'Busty blonde hottie fingering her pussy' or 'Skinny little whore rubs one off'? We aren't all magicians with words and everyone runs dry. When it becomes a real pain in the balls to come up with four or five words, just scan over a TGPs already listed descriptions. That should inspire you. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2004-12-05, 03:27 AM	#5
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	Guys you have been giving me great responses, keep it up! Thanks, bunky2u __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)

2004-12-05, 05:56 PM	#6
GeorgeTH Don't let a programmer design your front-end pages! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: currently on the road in CA Posts: 781	Shouldn't your avatar read: "Two Hills - Hairy Glen" or "Hairy Valley"? __________________ Have a nice day!

2004-12-04, 01:24 PM	#1
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	What makes or breaks a gallery? OK guys, I am posting this thread in various other boards to get some info for my next article for the Adult Buzz Blog I want to hear your ideas and opinions on what makes a good gallery and will get accepted and bring in sales to the submitter. As an Adult Webmaster; what makes or breaks a gallery? What elements makes the whole process of the gallery building a success? Thanks for your input! bunky2u Check out the Blogged articles here: Adult Buzz Blog __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)

2004-12-07, 03:52 AM	#12
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	Gallery Builders Corner: What Makes or Breaks a Gallery? The answers are in! Check out what six forums have to say about building galleries... http://www.adultbuzz.com/pblog/entry.php?id=164 Thanks guys! As always, post some input on the article, I appreciate it. ( you too UW... ) bunky2u __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)