Adbrite?

bunky2u · 2006-03-27, 09:34 PM

Ok... a few months ago I was looking at doing some mainstream stuff and I decided to use AdBrite as opposed to AdWords. I was never felt very good about doing mainstream so I slowly converted that site into a daily media site that promotes adult sites.

Now, I read somewhere here that people were warned about using AdBrite. Can anybody fill me in as to why?

Thanks.

koolkat · 2006-03-27, 09:54 PM

I'm not sure what the deal might be with AdBrite. I use the adult portion AVN Ads and have made some money with it. They are specifically for adult ads. Maybe using an actual AdBrite account (as opposed to the AVN Ads account) might violate the TOS. I know with Google it would violate their TOS.

Greenguy · 2006-03-27, 10:08 PM

Do a search & read a few threads - you'll find all kinds of opinions.

tortus32 · 2006-03-27, 10:51 PM

I recently stopped using AdBrite & AVN.

They're one and the same. If you sign up for AdBrite and check off that you want to run adult ads, you automatically get switched over to AVN.

Anyway, I was told that these people were supporting fusker.com, a skimmer site that steals bandwidth.

People got on their case and it took quite a bit of bitching to get them to drop them.

ClickBuster · 2006-03-28, 04:40 PM

If you can make money out of it you shouldn't care what people think about it. Trying them is a good way to find out if it's worthy

Toby · 2006-03-28, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

If you can make money out of it you shouldn't care what people think about it.

Who you choose NOT to do business with says as much or more than who you do business with.

ClickBuster · 2006-03-29, 12:27 AM

Toby, are you suggesting that nobody should be working with AdBrite? Is this a speculation or you have something to support that kind of statement? Did I completely missunderstood you?

Again, if you can make money out of it YOU SHOULDN'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT. This means that many people will tell you to stay away from them, others will say that they make good money with them. In the end it requires some individual experience to find out if they work for you or not - end of story.

I personally don't use AdBrite, cause I don't have the kind of sites to use them on. Tho, I've been thinking about it and if I have the right site, they just may be the right ads program for it.

Toby · 2006-03-29, 12:45 AM

Doing business with a company that supports cheaters and thieves means that you also indirectly support those same cheaters and theives.

What other people think isn't the issue, it's what the association says about you that is the issue. Are you saying you don't care that they support cheaters and thieves?

ClickBuster · 2006-03-29, 02:53 AM

Currently there're many people claiming that 35% or more of the Google ad clicks are fraud and that Google's not doing anything about it. What now, should I stop using it? Would you stop using it?

There're many cheaters promoting the very same programs that you use. Many of them get caught, others don't. Check your mail, there're shitloads of spam and probably you've seen half of the promoted programs. Many of these programs don't give a shit about spam, even the opposite - it's one of the biggest parts of their revenue.

Honestly - saying that AdBrite are cheaters cause Fuskers use them is meaningless, because there're tens of 1000s of honest webmasters using them as well - does this make them cheaters? Not to mention the fact that AdBrite guys disabled fusker's account, so how are the supporting them exactly?

Toby · 2006-03-29, 06:25 AM

Read the other threads re: adbrite and fusker. It's not just the fact that sites like fusker use them. All of this has been discussed several times already, I'm not going to go into it all again.

tortus32 · 2006-03-29, 06:42 AM

I already learned my lesson and dropped them.

RawAlex · 2006-03-29, 11:40 AM

Clickbuster, it isn't just as question of "fusker uses them so they are bad", but that the principals of adbrite had the balls to come here and defend fusker and their involvement as a good thing. It isn't just that someone snuck in the back door so they kicked them out, they had no intention of removing fusker from their programs (in fact, they had setup with fusker to be the default ad program for new fusker installs).

As I said to Tortus is the past: Do what you like, but don't be surprised if you have a harder time getting link trades or listings for sites with adbrite on them.

Alex

ClickBuster · 2006-03-29, 12:58 PM

Oh well, then I'm sorry for wasting your time guys

I was just trying to be logical, but I've never read thru the whole adbrite/fusker thread. My bad.

bunky2u · 2006-03-29, 01:02 PM

Well after searching (thanks, GG) and reading about the whole deal, I can see where the "bad deal" is.

I am glad I dropped them, and started pushing porn on that site. =D

tortus32 · 2006-03-29, 02:56 PM

Does anyone know of a similar service who you can sell banner spots through (not just text links) like AdBrite does, and is Ok with adult stuff ?

tortus32 · 2006-03-30, 09:01 AM

I guess it's a secret?

Toby · 2006-03-30, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortus32

I guess it's a secret?

No, just not many here that use that form of advertising on their sites.

kbbq · 2006-03-30, 01:37 PM

adengage.com
etology.com

tortus32 · 2006-03-30, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbbq

adengage.com
etology.com

Thanks!

I hope fusker hasn't dealt with any of these yet - lol!

I'll contact both of them and ask their policies concerning adult sites.

tortus32 · 2006-04-04, 07:38 AM

I signed up an adengage.com, got approved and set everything up.

Well, check this out people:

http://www.adengage.com/create_ad.cfm?site_id=3917&fd=y

Fusker is on Adengage.com as well!
Do I need to drop adengage now too?

tortus32 · 2006-04-04, 08:06 AM

I already emailed them about it.
Should I start painting the picket signs?

tortus32 · 2006-04-04, 08:53 AM

Bump!!!

RawAlex · 2006-04-04, 12:34 PM

In the end, if they are on fusker, you will find it very difficult to get trades with informed people.

Alex

tortus32 · 2006-04-04, 12:38 PM

I'm going to stay with th other post...

joemeca · 2006-04-04, 01:35 PM

try clicksor

2006-03-27, 09:34 PM	#1
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	Adbrite? Ok... a few months ago I was looking at doing some mainstream stuff and I decided to use AdBrite as opposed to AdWords. I was never felt very good about doing mainstream so I slowly converted that site into a daily media site that promotes adult sites. Now, I read somewhere here that people were warned about using AdBrite. Can anybody fill me in as to why? Thanks. __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)

2006-03-27, 09:54 PM	#2
koolkat Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SC Posts: 401	I'm not sure what the deal might be with AdBrite. I use the adult portion AVN Ads and have made some money with it. They are specifically for adult ads. Maybe using an actual AdBrite account (as opposed to the AVN Ads account) might violate the TOS. I know with Google it would violate their TOS. __________________ Harry Beaver's Lodge

2006-03-27, 10:08 PM	#3
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	Do a search & read a few threads - you'll find all kinds of opinions. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-03-27, 10:51 PM	#4
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I recently stopped using AdBrite & AVN. They're one and the same. If you sign up for AdBrite and check off that you want to run adult ads, you automatically get switched over to AVN. Anyway, I was told that these people were supporting fusker.com, a skimmer site that steals bandwidth. People got on their case and it took quite a bit of bitching to get them to drop them. __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-03-28, 04:40 PM	#5
ClickBuster I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 476	If you can make money out of it you shouldn't care what people think about it. Trying them is a good way to find out if it's worthy __________________ The tendency is to push it as far as you can -- Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas

2006-03-29, 12:27 AM	#7
ClickBuster I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 476	Toby, are you suggesting that nobody should be working with AdBrite? Is this a speculation or you have something to support that kind of statement? Did I completely missunderstood you? Again, if you can make money out of it YOU SHOULDN'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT. This means that many people will tell you to stay away from them, others will say that they make good money with them. In the end it requires some individual experience to find out if they work for you or not - end of story. I personally don't use AdBrite, cause I don't have the kind of sites to use them on. Tho, I've been thinking about it and if I have the right site, they just may be the right ads program for it. __________________ The tendency is to push it as far as you can -- Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas

2006-03-29, 12:45 AM	#8
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Doing business with a company that supports cheaters and thieves means that you also indirectly support those same cheaters and theives. What other people think isn't the issue, it's what the association says about you that is the issue. Are you saying you don't care that they support cheaters and thieves? __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2006-03-29, 02:53 AM	#9
ClickBuster I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 476	Currently there're many people claiming that 35% or more of the Google ad clicks are fraud and that Google's not doing anything about it. What now, should I stop using it? Would you stop using it? There're many cheaters promoting the very same programs that you use. Many of them get caught, others don't. Check your mail, there're shitloads of spam and probably you've seen half of the promoted programs. Many of these programs don't give a shit about spam, even the opposite - it's one of the biggest parts of their revenue. Honestly - saying that AdBrite are cheaters cause Fuskers use them is meaningless, because there're tens of 1000s of honest webmasters using them as well - does this make them cheaters? Not to mention the fact that AdBrite guys disabled fusker's account, so how are the supporting them exactly? __________________ The tendency is to push it as far as you can -- Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas

2006-03-29, 06:25 AM	#10
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Read the other threads re: adbrite and fusker. It's not just the fact that sites like fusker use them. All of this has been discussed several times already, I'm not going to go into it all again. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2006-03-29, 06:42 AM	#11
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I already learned my lesson and dropped them. __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-03-29, 11:40 AM	#12
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Clickbuster, it isn't just as question of "fusker uses them so they are bad", but that the principals of adbrite had the balls to come here and defend fusker and their involvement as a good thing. It isn't just that someone snuck in the back door so they kicked them out, they had no intention of removing fusker from their programs (in fact, they had setup with fusker to be the default ad program for new fusker installs). As I said to Tortus is the past: Do what you like, but don't be surprised if you have a harder time getting link trades or listings for sites with adbrite on them. Alex

2006-03-29, 12:58 PM	#13
ClickBuster I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 476	Oh well, then I'm sorry for wasting your time guys I was just trying to be logical, but I've never read thru the whole adbrite/fusker thread. My bad. __________________ The tendency is to push it as far as you can -- Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas

2006-03-29, 01:02 PM	#14
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	Well after searching (thanks, GG) and reading about the whole deal, I can see where the "bad deal" is. I am glad I dropped them, and started pushing porn on that site. =D __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)

2006-03-29, 02:56 PM	#15
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	Does anyone know of a similar service who you can sell banner spots through (not just text links) like AdBrite does, and is Ok with adult stuff ? __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-03-30, 09:01 AM	#16
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I guess it's a secret? __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-03-30, 01:37 PM	#18
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2006-04-04, 07:38 AM	#20
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I signed up an adengage.com, got approved and set everything up. Well, check this out people: http://www.adengage.com/create_ad.cfm?site_id=3917&fd=y Fusker is on Adengage.com as well! Do I need to drop adengage now too? __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic Last edited by tortus32; 2006-04-04 at 08:06 AM..

2006-04-04, 08:06 AM	#21
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I already emailed them about it. Should I start painting the picket signs? __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-04-04, 08:53 AM	#22
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	Bump!!! __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-04-04, 12:34 PM	#23
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	In the end, if they are on fusker, you will find it very difficult to get trades with informed people. Alex

2006-04-04, 12:38 PM	#24
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I'm going to stay with th other post... __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2006-04-04, 01:35 PM	#25
joemeca Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19	try clicksor __________________