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Cleo · 2005-03-30, 11:43 AM

It would be stealing to change someone's affiliate code to yours even if this was possible. Links to your galleries are on my server. The ads in your galleries with your affiliate code are on your sever.

BTW I do run a paysite, see my sig.

Useless · 2005-03-30, 11:55 AM

This could get rough.

Head Boy · 2005-03-30, 12:46 PM

Joe, there are some well established concepts that have evolved and would probably stand up in a court of law. You must always remember that the traffic on the tgp circuit belongs to the tgps and not the gallery submitters. Many tgps get thousands of submissions every day, and they have to select a few from this mass (most of which break their rules). In addition, they have to guard against cheaters that steal traffic and install malware to change affiliate link codes and things like dialers. It is a privilege and not a right to even get a tgp owner to look at your gallery, let alone list it.

There are also some rules about surfers visiting your pages. The surfer belongs to the TGP until he clicks on your site. That click is then yours, but you mustn't do anything to interfere with the surfers computer, or to make it difficult for him to exit back to the invoking page. This means that you can't re-direct incoming surfers, you can only geo-select their outgoing links (and some sites don't like that either).

JoeA · 2005-03-30, 01:10 PM

Sorry, but it seems that I do need to stoop to your level, and to say that you are now showing your ignorance !!!

I own the site and therefore do not need to have an id in links to my own galleries. The galleries are hosted by me for my affiliates etc !!!

That's why I said that you should sign up as an affiliate and then you could legally add your id to any galleries listed in the archives... I couldn't give a flying f**k if you changed my original links to include your id, if I submit a site, and so helping you earn 50% of a sale. To me 50% of a sale is better than no sale

So... All you have to do is look at my sig and see that it's not one that an affiliate would use, but that of the webmaster who owns the site...

Your turn...

Cleo · 2005-03-30, 01:30 PM

We are talking about submitted galleries not sponsor hosted galleries that we add in ourselves. If you want to build and submit galleries then you need to follow the list site's rules. Their traffic, their site, their rules, it is not a democracy. It doesn't matter if you are the paysite owner or not. If you are submitted stuff you are just a submitter.

If you would like to start a thread about sponsor hosted galleries feel free to or just use one of the existing ones.

BTW is is ok to link the URLs in your sig. Do you need some basic html lessons or do you feel that using Paint Shop Pro 7 to write your html is a complete solution?

Brav · 2005-03-30, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramster

I'd bet if you could do a study you'd find more people click recips at the bottom than at the top.

When a surfer enters a gallery page they are looking for pics. They are not going to click the recip button at the top before looking for pics. As the surfer makes his/her way down the page looking at more pics they finally reach the bottom and you have either have a banner to the paysite or recip links to "more free porn". Hello recips, off they go.

I could be wrong of course

I totally agree. I did some testing a while back, and when I placed recips at the bottom they received quite a bit more traffic then when they were at the top. I am more then happy to place recips at the top of the page, I never advertise up there anyway.

Useless · 2005-03-30, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

Sorry, but it seems that I do need to stoop to your level, and to say that you are now showing your ignorance !!!

I own the site and therefore do not need to have an id in links to my own galleries. The galleries are hosted by me for my affiliates etc !!!

That's why I said that you should sign up as an affiliate and then you could legally add your id to any galleries listed in the archives... I couldn't give a flying f**k if you changed my original links to include your id, if I submit a site, and so helping you earn 50% of a sale. To me 50% of a sale is better than no sale

So... All you have to do is look at my sig and see that it's not one that an affiliate would use, but that of the webmaster who owns the site...

Your turn...

Joe, I just made a semi-vow this morning to be a brighter, more cheerful person, but I'm finding myself forced to inform you that you are the only one who has shown any ignorance in this thread. If you can't figure out how the TGP game works, hire someone to build and submit for you. Bad attitude and intentionally ignoring the rules will only serve to get you blacklisted.

BTW, doesn't this thread belong in the TGP board? We are discussing a gallery after all, not a free site. Perhaps the newbie board would be even more appropriate.

JoeA · 2005-03-30, 02:22 PM

I started this thread as a joke...

When you think of all the banned terms, words and phrases today, I found a gallery being rejected for too little nudity quite funny... YOU had to take it to another level...

You are the proof, that it is easier to negotiate with a terrorist than it is with a female...

Useless · 2005-03-30, 02:28 PM

Joe, I'm having a very bad day.

JoeA · 2005-03-30, 02:39 PM

I'll start by quoting you...

BTW, doesn't this thread belong in the TGP board?

Please read the opening post again, as it is about being listed, and as I have just said.. It was meant as a joke ... Cleo and others changed the subject..

As for being listed.. Apart from that one gallery being rejected.. As I don't ignore any rules, the other 11 I've submitted around so far, have all been accepted... So maybe I do know what I'm doing...

I look foward to the day when TGP and links list owners become webmasters with their own pay sites and then they will see the other side of the coin...

Cleo · 2005-03-30, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

I look foward to the day when TGP and links list owners become webmasters with their own pay sites and then they will see the other side of the coin...

I have run two different paysites since I've been in this biz and presently run FoxyAngel. I guess your day has arrived.

dareutwo · 2005-03-30, 03:11 PM

Sorry Joe, another bloke to add to the blacklist.
You created this thread, then insulted the answers given.
If you're not happy with the answers but change, it's called learning.
If you're unwilling to do anything about it, it's called stupidity.

This is a forum for learning and growing, not complaining.
Good luck with your future burger flipping career.

Useless · 2005-03-30, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

It was meant as a joke ...

You forgot to say 'Knock, knock'.

Greenguy · 2005-03-30, 03:20 PM

This has to be one of the oddest threads I have ever read

(and I'm the one that moved it)

Greenguy · 2005-03-30, 03:23 PM

Oh - have we established that there is no way of changing around the codes on someone else's server without hacking into it?

MadMax · 2005-03-30, 03:25 PM

Drama twice in two weeks....uh oh

JoeA · 2005-03-30, 03:26 PM

Useless ..

Daretwo...

You should also try reading my original post and replies before I was insulted.. Once more.. I posted as a joke...

Cleo..

I can now only bow to your superiority.. I presume that Cleo is short for Queen Cleopatra...

I do have to ask... What happened to your first two pay sites.. I presume that you sold them for a profit

TO EVERYONE WHO IS TOO LAZY TO READ ALL MY POSTS... I DO NOT HAVE PROBLEMS HAVING ANY OF MY GALLERIES ACCEPTED APART FROM THAT ONE .... OK... CAN YOU ALL READ AND UNDERSTAND MY ENGLISH GRAMMAR !!!!

This thread proves that Yanks do not understand English humour and irony...

Added as I just read GG's post...

I didn't suggest hacking... Cleo did. I asked if it was possible for TGP/Links site owners to sign up as affiliates to pay sites and then when they move listings to an archive if they could change the link on their own sites to include their affiliate id, if the link was submitted by a pay site owner and there is no other affilaite id... Quite simple but too complicated for the Yanks to undertsand.. Instead I received insults... LOL.

At least I've livened things up

Head Boy · 2005-03-30, 03:31 PM

There are some English guys posting in this thread as well.

Greenguy · 2005-03-30, 03:36 PM

I know you never suggested hacking, but that's the only way I can think of to add my code to pages on your server.

Tell me, how would one edit this URL so that their code was on the pages on your server?

http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/TGP/12/10012.htm

Head Boy · 2005-03-30, 03:45 PM

Once the surfer has loaded your page, then the LL has lost control of future clicks. I can only think of two ways to change the code. 1. change it on your server. 2. install a trojan on the surfers computer. Both of those are illegal.

There are two possibilities with your co-operation. 1. You submit the page with the archive links in the first place. 2. You provide the LL owner with a FPA to fly before the tour, and that is hosted on the LL server and called by the submitted page.

JoeA · 2005-03-30, 03:48 PM

You don't know me at all from your comments about law and who owns what...

In 6 years in this biz I have never re-directed surfers.. There has not been one pop up or under on any of my sites. I have always built clean honest sites... Any galleries I make are in the same mold... I've just started looking at all the TGP's and links sites and if I don't like their rules... I won't submit and try to get away with what I want. I will only submit to those who's rules I'm happy with.

I can say that there are one or two that I will go out of my way for as we have known each other or of each other for years and so mutual respect is given/shown by both of us. There is one person who posts on GG and he has just done me a favour, so I'm actually building galleries specifically to meet his rules... It's driving me nuts but I'm doing it.. You know who you are if you read this ... Give me couple of days to build a few... Thanks

Cleo · 2005-03-30, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

I can now only bow to your superiority.. I presume that Cleo is short for Queen Cleopatra...

I do have to ask... What happened to your first two pay sites.. I presume that you sold them for a profit

Not short for anything, just a dumb nickname that stuck.

First paysite was a general hardcore site. I found it more profitable to turn the domain into a bunch of AVS niche sites. Then AVS got murdered by Visa.

Second paysite is FoxyAngel and it does very well. My neighbor is FoxyAngel and she provides the content. I market it keeping the traffic flowing to it and keep the machinery oiled.

JoeA · 2005-03-30, 03:57 PM

This is the link on the TGP when on the list:

http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.co.../gallery25.htm

When the listing is moved to the archive, if the TGP owner was an affiliate, could they change the link to this:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../gallery25.htm

If this could be done, then the webmaster of the pay site would be earning 100% of a sale while listed and because the TGP owner keeps it but in an archive.. They can then earn 50% from any sales

Head Boy · 2005-03-30, 03:58 PM

I know it's not you that's doing it, but in my opinion you can't have a clean site if you've got a sex tracker link on it. I won't trade or link to a site that's got it, because I believe it will install ALT trojans and lose all webmasters part of their income.

I haven't yet seen a post anywhere that proves my opinion to be incorrect. If there is one, I'd be grateful for a link.

SpeedyG · 2005-03-30, 04:21 PM

ignorance + attitude problem + big ego = dim future in this biz

Hint 1: This business is all about networking, not proving you are always right. It's ok admit mistakes and ask for help. You can't make it in this biz alone, every bridge you burn and every person you piss off because you refuse to accept your ignorance will hurt your chances of success (and believe me, not many people are fond of you at the moment).

Hint 2: Try taking your head out of your ass and you might learn something on this board. There are many good people here that are always willing to help if you don't crap all over their opinions.

And with that said........ |fart|

2005-03-30, 11:43 AM	#26
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	It would be stealing to change someone's affiliate code to yours even if this was possible. Links to your galleries are on my server. The ads in your galleries with your affiliate code are on your sever. BTW I do run a paysite, see my sig. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-03-30, 11:55 AM	#27
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	This could get rough. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-03-30, 12:46 PM	#28
Head Boy Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 442	Joe, there are some well established concepts that have evolved and would probably stand up in a court of law. You must always remember that the traffic on the tgp circuit belongs to the tgps and not the gallery submitters. Many tgps get thousands of submissions every day, and they have to select a few from this mass (most of which break their rules). In addition, they have to guard against cheaters that steal traffic and install malware to change affiliate link codes and things like dialers. It is a privilege and not a right to even get a tgp owner to look at your gallery, let alone list it. There are also some rules about surfers visiting your pages. The surfer belongs to the TGP until he clicks on your site. That click is then yours, but you mustn't do anything to interfere with the surfers computer, or to make it difficult for him to exit back to the invoking page. This means that you can't re-direct incoming surfers, you can only geo-select their outgoing links (and some sites don't like that either). __________________ Adult domain names for sale at Baronets Splinkies have arrived

2005-03-30, 01:10 PM	#29
JoeA Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London UK Posts: 65	Cleo... Sorry, but it seems that I do need to stoop to your level, and to say that you are now showing your ignorance !!! I own the site and therefore do not need to have an id in links to my own galleries. The galleries are hosted by me for my affiliates etc !!! That's why I said that you should sign up as an affiliate and then you could legally add your id to any galleries listed in the archives... I couldn't give a flying f**k if you changed my original links to include your id, if I submit a site, and so helping you earn 50% of a sale. To me 50% of a sale is better than no sale So... All you have to do is look at my sig and see that it's not one that an affiliate would use, but that of the webmaster who owns the site... Your turn... __________________ http://www.saharagetsdirty.com http://www.ravishingindians.com

2005-03-30, 01:30 PM	#30
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	We are talking about submitted galleries not sponsor hosted galleries that we add in ourselves. If you want to build and submit galleries then you need to follow the list site's rules. Their traffic, their site, their rules, it is not a democracy. It doesn't matter if you are the paysite owner or not. If you are submitted stuff you are just a submitter. If you would like to start a thread about sponsor hosted galleries feel free to or just use one of the existing ones. BTW is is ok to link the URLs in your sig. Do you need some basic html lessons or do you feel that using Paint Shop Pro 7 to write your html is a complete solution? __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-03-30, 02:22 PM	#33
JoeA Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London UK Posts: 65	Oh Cleo.... I started this thread as a joke... When you think of all the banned terms, words and phrases today, I found a gallery being rejected for too little nudity quite funny... YOU had to take it to another level... You are the proof, that it is easier to negotiate with a terrorist than it is with a female... __________________ http://www.saharagetsdirty.com http://www.ravishingindians.com

2005-03-30, 02:28 PM	#34
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Joe, I'm having a very bad day. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-03-30, 02:39 PM	#35
JoeA Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London UK Posts: 65	Hey Useless... I'll start by quoting you... BTW, doesn't this thread belong in the TGP board? Please read the opening post again, as it is about being listed, and as I have just said.. It was meant as a joke ... Cleo and others changed the subject.. As for being listed.. Apart from that one gallery being rejected.. As I don't ignore any rules, the other 11 I've submitted around so far, have all been accepted... So maybe I do know what I'm doing... I look foward to the day when TGP and links list owners become webmasters with their own pay sites and then they will see the other side of the coin... __________________ http://www.saharagetsdirty.com http://www.ravishingindians.com

2005-03-30, 03:11 PM	#37
dareutwo You can't disprove anything with evidence that doesn't exist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Minnesota - pop 865 +/- 1 Posts: 2,038	Sorry Joe, another bloke to add to the blacklist. You created this thread, then insulted the answers given. If you're not happy with the answers but change, it's called learning. If you're unwilling to do anything about it, it's called stupidity. This is a forum for learning and growing, not complaining. Good luck with your future burger flipping career. __________________ This is me Mark's-Links

2005-03-30, 03:20 PM	#39
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,770	This has to be one of the oddest threads I have ever read (and I'm the one that moved it) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-30, 03:23 PM	#40
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,770	Oh - have we established that there is no way of changing around the codes on someone else's server without hacking into it? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-30, 03:25 PM	#41
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Drama twice in two weeks....uh oh

2005-03-30, 03:26 PM	#42
JoeA Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London UK Posts: 65	Useless... ROTFLMAO .... Dareutwo... Cleo... GG... Useless .. Daretwo... You should also try reading my original post and replies before I was insulted.. Once more.. I posted as a joke... Cleo.. I can now only bow to your superiority.. I presume that Cleo is short for Queen Cleopatra... I do have to ask... What happened to your first two pay sites.. I presume that you sold them for a profit TO EVERYONE WHO IS TOO LAZY TO READ ALL MY POSTS... I DO NOT HAVE PROBLEMS HAVING ANY OF MY GALLERIES ACCEPTED APART FROM THAT ONE .... OK... CAN YOU ALL READ AND UNDERSTAND MY ENGLISH GRAMMAR !!!! This thread proves that Yanks do not understand English humour and irony... Added as I just read GG's post... I didn't suggest hacking... Cleo did. I asked if it was possible for TGP/Links site owners to sign up as affiliates to pay sites and then when they move listings to an archive if they could change the link on their own sites to include their affiliate id, if the link was submitted by a pay site owner and there is no other affilaite id... Quite simple but too complicated for the Yanks to undertsand.. Instead I received insults... LOL. At least I've livened things up __________________ http://www.saharagetsdirty.com http://www.ravishingindians.com

2005-03-30, 03:31 PM	#43
Head Boy Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 442	There are some English guys posting in this thread as well. __________________ Adult domain names for sale at Baronets Splinkies have arrived

2005-03-30, 03:36 PM	#44
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,770	I know you never suggested hacking, but that's the only way I can think of to add my code to pages on your server. Tell me, how would one edit this URL so that their code was on the pages on your server? http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/TGP/12/10012.htm __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-30, 03:45 PM	#45
Head Boy Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 442	Once the surfer has loaded your page, then the LL has lost control of future clicks. I can only think of two ways to change the code. 1. change it on your server. 2. install a trojan on the surfers computer. Both of those are illegal. There are two possibilities with your co-operation. 1. You submit the page with the archive links in the first place. 2. You provide the LL owner with a FPA to fly before the tour, and that is hosted on the LL server and called by the submitted page. __________________ Adult domain names for sale at Baronets Splinkies have arrived

2005-03-30, 03:48 PM	#46
JoeA Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London UK Posts: 65	OK Head Boy it's your turn... You don't know me at all from your comments about law and who owns what... In 6 years in this biz I have never re-directed surfers.. There has not been one pop up or under on any of my sites. I have always built clean honest sites... Any galleries I make are in the same mold... I've just started looking at all the TGP's and links sites and if I don't like their rules... I won't submit and try to get away with what I want. I will only submit to those who's rules I'm happy with. I can say that there are one or two that I will go out of my way for as we have known each other or of each other for years and so mutual respect is given/shown by both of us. There is one person who posts on GG and he has just done me a favour, so I'm actually building galleries specifically to meet his rules... It's driving me nuts but I'm doing it.. You know who you are if you read this ... Give me couple of days to build a few... Thanks __________________ http://www.saharagetsdirty.com http://www.ravishingindians.com

2005-03-30, 03:57 PM	#48
JoeA Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London UK Posts: 65	GG... This is what I ws asking about :) This is the link on the TGP when on the list: http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.co.../gallery25.htm When the listing is moved to the archive, if the TGP owner was an affiliate, could they change the link to this: http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../gallery25.htm If this could be done, then the webmaster of the pay site would be earning 100% of a sale while listed and because the TGP owner keeps it but in an archive.. They can then earn 50% from any sales __________________ http://www.saharagetsdirty.com http://www.ravishingindians.com

2005-03-30, 03:58 PM	#49
Head Boy Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 442	I know it's not you that's doing it, but in my opinion you can't have a clean site if you've got a sex tracker link on it. I won't trade or link to a site that's got it, because I believe it will install ALT trojans and lose all webmasters part of their income. I haven't yet seen a post anywhere that proves my opinion to be incorrect. If there is one, I'd be grateful for a link. __________________ Adult domain names for sale at Baronets Splinkies have arrived

2005-03-30, 04:21 PM	#50
SpeedyG Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 74	JoeA ignorance + attitude problem + big ego = dim future in this biz Hint 1: This business is all about networking, not proving you are always right. It's ok admit mistakes and ask for help. You can't make it in this biz alone, every bridge you burn and every person you piss off because you refuse to accept your ignorance will hurt your chances of success (and believe me, not many people are fond of you at the moment). Hint 2: Try taking your head out of your ass and you might learn something on this board. There are many good people here that are always willing to help if you don't crap all over their opinions. And with that said........ \|fart\| __________________ Johnny xXx - TGP/MGP Submit your picture and movie galleries to Johnny xXx