Foreign Traffic Redirects? Good, Bad, Indifferent?

EclectiXXX · 2003-09-12, 10:27 AM

I signed up for Sex Money and installed their foreign redirect on a few of my domains where I get considerable foreign traffic, (Never really could convert it well), and was wondering if anyone else had experience, thoughts, opinons, and/or questions about doing this.

I'm using their .htaccess redirect for 2 domains and it seems to be working (making a few extra dollars, not huge, but hasn't decreased earnings on those domains).

Greenguy · 2003-09-12, 10:32 AM

I made the mistake of trying SexMoney in the htaccess on link-o-rama.com - I was flooded with emails & posts that my site was hi-jacked - LOL

I do of course still use SexMoney & ARS's Dialer to redirect some foreign traffic on a few domains & sites, but I get in too much trouble if I do it on the big one

Chipmunk · 2003-09-12, 11:51 AM

Howdy EclectiXXX,

I'm glad you are making money with SEXMoney.com, however
I would love to chat with you to see if I can assist you in maximizing your profits. Please feel free to ICQ or Email me.
(or flag me down in the chat room-lol)

See ya,
Chipmunk

SEXMoney.com
Marketing & Webmaster Relations North America
ICQ: 48437188
Email: matthew@sexmoney.com

Cleo · 2003-09-12, 12:00 PM

I think that the only way this should be done is if you are using a banner rotator like PhpAdsNew that has the option to serve up different banners to foreign traffic.

Kath · 2003-09-12, 12:14 PM

EclectiXXX -

Hey you... long time no see!

The re-direct feature is a nice way to simply send off non-English speaking traffic to sponsors.... but it's not for everyone. Just like not everybody can convert TGP traffic - or not everyone can convert the same niches well - there are different methods for everyone's "madness" when it comes to global traffic.

Re-direction is just ONE of the ways to work with SexMoney...

Another way - the way I actually prefer - is to use targeted banners. We just sent out a PR yesterday (and it will be in our webmasters mailer this week) about the new multi-language banners that we've added to the program. We also have multi-niche targeted banners, banners for specific sites - and generic banners that can be used anywhere.

Another way that works well for some - and I think this is what Greenie is using now (at least last time I checked) is through text links. Yup.. text links still work wonders. We have a full list of 25 different language specific text links that you can use on your site if there is a specific language(s) that you want to address.

Shoot me an email - contact me by ICQ (29052013 - I lost you off my list somehow!) - or get in touch with Chipmunk (above). We can take a look at your traffic & account and help you tailor your links to better suit your needs... translation... make you mo $$$$$

Hope to hear from ya.... will you be heading to Internext this year? LMK - it's been a long time since we've seen you.

EclectiXXX · 2003-09-12, 12:21 PM

I do use PHPAdsNew but not yet on these 2 domains...

I've also not figured out how to get the geo tracking part working though...

Just an FYI I looked at my Sex Money stats and I get way more traffic from "unproductive for me" countries (Poland Turkey Hungary Russia Romania, etc) than I thought!!! Damn freeloaders!!!!

Cleo · 2003-09-12, 01:01 PM

I haven't actually gotten around to setting it up, it is on my long list and projects that I want to do.

From what I understand you just need to subscribe to the Geo database, $150 a year, and then under the delivery tab tell it which banners to serve where.

The main reason that I haven't gotten around to doing this is having to add in a bunch of banners in languages that I don't understand not to mention finding sponsors that offer these banners.

shelmal · 2003-09-12, 01:32 PM

Ok this may be a stupid question but I had considered using them fpr my tgp galleries BUT won't the tgps consider this as redirection and ban me?

turboface · 2003-09-12, 03:44 PM

I started using Sex Money a month or so ago, but stopped sending traffic to them after I never got a response to a few emails I sent them about some problems I was having with their stats.

DangerDave · 2003-09-12, 05:59 PM

I for one get pissed off with this "foreign traffic" shit..

I want to know what the current definition of "foreign traffic" is??.

Anything that isnt US??
Anything that doesnt speak english??

I get redirected enuff as it is, being non-us based... |pissed|

DD

Greenguy · 2003-09-12, 06:05 PM

I have a filter on link-o-rama.com that sends all my Aussie traffic to pillow biter sites

Wazza · 2003-09-12, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shelmal
Ok this may be a stupid question but I had considered using them fpr my tgp galleries BUT won't the tgps consider this as redirection and ban me?

Bear in mind that many tgps with large quantities of "money making" traffic are owned / reviewed by ppl who don't reside in the US or Canada. Running any kind of geo targetting on gals wouldn't be advisable...

Wazza · 2003-09-12, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I have a filter on link-o-rama.com that sends all my Aussie traffic to pillow biter sites

Thankth thweetie

DangerDave · 2003-09-12, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I have a filter on link-o-rama.com that sends all my Aussie traffic to pillow biter sites

So that's why I always end up at http://www.greengay.com/

DD

Nickname · 2003-09-12, 07:09 PM

Well one thing is for sure

Sweden should not be counted as a foregin traffic source, we spek farely good english and have loads of CC's and most important of all we are not afraid to use them online(have seen statistics on this) acording to statistics Sweden is in the top3 of online CC shopping when you see to the % of people in the country. So dont redirect Swedes

Yooo GG, why people had problems with the .htaccess from sexmoney on LOR is cause it redirected all of us webmasters that wanted to submit sites to you to sexmoney.......

Dont get any ideas

Cleo · 2003-09-12, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
So that's why I always end up at http://www.greengay.com/

DD

Well at least now I know where he goes while wearing my shoes.

Surfn · 2003-09-12, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
I for one get pissed off with this "foreign traffic" shit..

I want to know what the current definition of "foreign traffic" is??.

Anything that isnt US??
Anything that doesnt speak english??

I get redirected enuff as it is, being non-us based... |pissed|

DD

I redirect the far east and the eastern europeans. I can understand your frustration with webmasters that do blank redirects though, that's

MikeC · 2003-09-13, 09:48 PM

If you redirect foreign traffic do you run the risk of getting grey-barred by Google for cloaking or something similar?

Linkster · 2003-09-14, 09:20 PM

MikeC...real good observation...I for one don't know how the SEs look at geo-targetting in the htaccess, but it sure would seem that that would be a form of cloaking by definition....
of course doing what GG is doing with the text links would be the sensible way to handle that problem

Kath · 2003-09-15, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turboface
I started using Sex Money a month or so ago, but stopped sending traffic to them after I never got a response to a few emails I sent them about some problems I was having with their stats.

Turboface - if you are still interested, please drop me an email via kath@sexmoney.com or contact me via ICQ at 29052013. In the past month we have totally re-done our statistics areas, adding even more stats opportunities and ways to track your traffic.

I apologize for whomever dropped the ball - I can assure you that's not typical of our team. We really enjoy contacting our webmasters on a personal basis via email, ICQ or on the phone to help them better target their traffic for the maximum results.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Kath · 2003-09-15, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
I for one get pissed off with this "foreign traffic" shit..

I want to know what the current definition of "foreign traffic" is??.

Anything that isnt US??
Anything that doesnt speak english??

I get redirected enuff as it is, being non-us based... |pissed|

DD

Hey Dave!

The current definition of "foreign traffic" depends totally upon the webmaster. Not speaking for other global traffic programs, but SexMoney.com lets the webmaster choose which languages he wants to re-direct or include in his geo-targeting links.

Our program has a double filtering process that checks the user by browser language AND by IP-detection/location. This helps if you are targeting French-speaking users but want to discern between French-speaking Canadians and French-speaking Parisians. You choose which languages you want to send to SexMoney and which ones you want to keep.

And as far as the whole "re-direction" thing goes... I agree with Linkster - what Greenguy is doing now with the text link offerings in multiple languages is the BEST solution. Give your surfers the choice. I don't like getting re-directed (I hear ya Dave!) so I'm sure they don't getting taken somewhere against their will. lol

In the coming weeks we will have even more targeting tools, ads and multi-language offerings for webmasters to use on their sites in RESPONSE to requests made by webmasters who work with link list, TGP and search engine traffic, who want to stay complaint with rules and requirements AND make some $$$ from their global traffic.

I hope this answers some questions - if you have more, my virtual door is always open. Get me via kath@sexmoney.com or ICQ at 29052013. |rasta|

Chipmunk · 2003-09-15, 07:23 PM

Hey Turboface,

Really nice chatting on the phone with you!
Glad we got everything squared away...

Looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow to follow up...

Regards,
Chipmunk |rasta|

SEXMoney.com
Marketing & Webmaster Relations North America
ICQ: 48437188
Email: matthew@sexmoney.com

MikeC · 2003-09-15, 08:39 PM

Exactly Linkster. My site gets well over 30 million pageviews a month (of which probably close to a third is foreign), but I wouldn't touch redirecting with a ten foot pole if it meant even the slightest chance of losing my Google traffic. Changing my personal advertisements based on browser language might not be a bad idea though. Anybody with any thoughts on how to go about easily implementing such a system?

Kath · 2003-09-15, 10:41 PM

MikeC -

I think we have something that would be perfect for your needs. Shoot me an ICQ via 29052013 or email me via kath@sexmoney.com.

I also want to take a moment to thank all the webmasters from this board who have been contacting me by email and ICQ ever since we launched our ad campaign here @ GreenguyandJim.com. We've received some of the most helpful and constructive comments from this bunch than anywhere else on the 'Net.

Greenguy & Jim sure know how to attract a good bunch!

Kath · 2003-09-16, 02:00 AM

Mike C -

Great chatting with you via email this evening. I hope we can work together in some way in the near future.

2003-09-12, 10:27 AM	#1
EclectiXXX Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Md USA Posts: 159	Foreign Traffic Redirects? Good, Bad, Indifferent? I signed up for Sex Money and installed their foreign redirect on a few of my domains where I get considerable foreign traffic, (Never really could convert it well), and was wondering if anyone else had experience, thoughts, opinons, and/or questions about doing this. I'm using their .htaccess redirect for 2 domains and it seems to be working (making a few extra dollars, not huge, but hasn't decreased earnings on those domains). __________________ Sex Dragons Porn Links Cumshot Blog Blog-A-Rama Check Back Tomorrow

2003-09-12, 10:32 AM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,758	I made the mistake of trying SexMoney in the htaccess on link-o-rama.com - I was flooded with emails & posts that my site was hi-jacked - LOL I do of course still use SexMoney & ARS's Dialer to redirect some foreign traffic on a few domains & sites, but I get in too much trouble if I do it on the big one __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-09-12, 11:51 AM	#3
Chipmunk Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 20	Howdy EclectiXXX, I'm glad you are making money with SEXMoney.com, however I would love to chat with you to see if I can assist you in maximizing your profits. Please feel free to ICQ or Email me. (or flag me down in the chat room-lol) See ya, Chipmunk SEXMoney.com Marketing & Webmaster Relations North America ICQ: 48437188 Email: matthew@sexmoney.com Last edited by Chipmunk; 2003-09-12 at 11:54 AM..

2003-09-12, 12:00 PM	#4
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I think that the only way this should be done is if you are using a banner rotator like PhpAdsNew that has the option to serve up different banners to foreign traffic. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-09-12, 12:14 PM	#5
Kath No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 284	EclectiXXX - Hey you... long time no see! The re-direct feature is a nice way to simply send off non-English speaking traffic to sponsors.... but it's not for everyone. Just like not everybody can convert TGP traffic - or not everyone can convert the same niches well - there are different methods for everyone's "madness" when it comes to global traffic. Re-direction is just ONE of the ways to work with SexMoney... Another way - the way I actually prefer - is to use targeted banners. We just sent out a PR yesterday (and it will be in our webmasters mailer this week) about the new multi-language banners that we've added to the program. We also have multi-niche targeted banners, banners for specific sites - and generic banners that can be used anywhere. Another way that works well for some - and I think this is what Greenie is using now (at least last time I checked) is through text links. Yup.. text links still work wonders. We have a full list of 25 different language specific text links that you can use on your site if there is a specific language(s) that you want to address. Shoot me an email - contact me by ICQ (29052013 - I lost you off my list somehow!) - or get in touch with Chipmunk (above). We can take a look at your traffic & account and help you tailor your links to better suit your needs... translation... make you mo $$$$$ Hope to hear from ya.... will you be heading to Internext this year? LMK - it's been a long time since we've seen you. __________________ READ...MY...BLOG! - kBlogger.com KLIXXX - Written by webmasters FOR webmasters!

2003-09-12, 12:21 PM	#6
EclectiXXX Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Md USA Posts: 159	I do use PHPAdsNew but not yet on these 2 domains... I've also not figured out how to get the geo tracking part working though... Just an FYI I looked at my Sex Money stats and I get way more traffic from "unproductive for me" countries (Poland Turkey Hungary Russia Romania, etc) than I thought!!! Damn freeloaders!!!! __________________ Sex Dragons Porn Links Cumshot Blog Blog-A-Rama Check Back Tomorrow

2003-09-12, 01:01 PM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I haven't actually gotten around to setting it up, it is on my long list and projects that I want to do. From what I understand you just need to subscribe to the Geo database, $150 a year, and then under the delivery tab tell it which banners to serve where. The main reason that I haven't gotten around to doing this is having to add in a bunch of banners in languages that I don't understand not to mention finding sponsors that offer these banners. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-09-12, 01:32 PM	#8
shelmal WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 48	Ok this may be a stupid question but I had considered using them fpr my tgp galleries BUT won't the tgps consider this as redirection and ban me?

2003-09-12, 03:44 PM	#9
turboface If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NC Posts: 33	I started using Sex Money a month or so ago, but stopped sending traffic to them after I never got a response to a few emails I sent them about some problems I was having with their stats.

2003-09-12, 05:59 PM	#10
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	I for one get pissed off with this "foreign traffic" shit.. I want to know what the current definition of "foreign traffic" is??. Anything that isnt US?? Anything that doesnt speak english?? I get redirected enuff as it is, being non-us based... \|pissed\| DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-09-12, 06:05 PM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,758	I have a filter on link-o-rama.com that sends all my Aussie traffic to pillow biter sites __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-09-12, 07:09 PM	#15
Nickname Stupid risks make life worth living Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 385	Well one thing is for sure Sweden should not be counted as a foregin traffic source, we spek farely good english and have loads of CC's and most important of all we are not afraid to use them online(have seen statistics on this) acording to statistics Sweden is in the top3 of online CC shopping when you see to the % of people in the country. So dont redirect Swedes Yooo GG, why people had problems with the .htaccess from sexmoney on LOR is cause it redirected all of us webmasters that wanted to submit sites to you to sexmoney....... Dont get any ideas __________________ bexhag @ gmail.com skype: daniel.berglund1

2003-09-13, 09:48 PM	#18
MikeC WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hollywood, CA. Posts: 42	If you redirect foreign traffic do you run the risk of getting grey-barred by Google for cloaking or something similar? __________________ Mike C. - <a href="http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/">Celebrity Movie Archive</a>

2003-09-14, 09:20 PM	#19
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	MikeC...real good observation...I for one don't know how the SEs look at geo-targetting in the htaccess, but it sure would seem that that would be a form of cloaking by definition.... of course doing what GG is doing with the text links would be the sensible way to handle that problem __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-09-15, 07:23 PM	#22
Chipmunk Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 20	Hey Turboface, Really nice chatting on the phone with you! Glad we got everything squared away... Looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow to follow up... Regards, Chipmunk \|rasta\| SEXMoney.com Marketing & Webmaster Relations North America ICQ: 48437188 Email: matthew@sexmoney.com

2003-09-15, 08:39 PM	#23
MikeC WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hollywood, CA. Posts: 42	Exactly Linkster. My site gets well over 30 million pageviews a month (of which probably close to a third is foreign), but I wouldn't touch redirecting with a ten foot pole if it meant even the slightest chance of losing my Google traffic. Changing my personal advertisements based on browser language might not be a bad idea though. Anybody with any thoughts on how to go about easily implementing such a system? __________________ Mike C. - <a href="http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/">Celebrity Movie Archive</a>

2003-09-15, 10:41 PM	#24
Kath No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 284	MikeC - I think we have something that would be perfect for your needs. Shoot me an ICQ via 29052013 or email me via kath@sexmoney.com. I also want to take a moment to thank all the webmasters from this board who have been contacting me by email and ICQ ever since we launched our ad campaign here @ GreenguyandJim.com. We've received some of the most helpful and constructive comments from this bunch than anywhere else on the 'Net. Greenguy & Jim sure know how to attract a good bunch! __________________ READ...MY...BLOG! - kBlogger.com KLIXXX - Written by webmasters FOR webmasters!

2003-09-16, 02:00 AM	#25
Kath No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 284	Mike C - Great chatting with you via email this evening. I hope we can work together in some way in the near future. __________________ READ...MY...BLOG! - kBlogger.com KLIXXX - Written by webmasters FOR webmasters!