Question for tube site owners

[JefersoN]

A little newbie question...

I see a lot of tube sites tradding like this way:

If the surfer is in teen category and the trade script send it to a trade partner, it goes also to a teen page from the partner..... and so on......

I mean everything automatically...

another sample:

click from http://www.trade01.com/teens.html " -goes to: "www.partner.com/teens.html"
click from http://www.trade01.com/asian.html " -goes to: "www.partner.com/asian.html"
click from http://www.trade01.com/mature.html " -goes to: "www.partner.com/mature.html"

Ps: Its the same trade partner, but different category pages

How you guys do that? Trade script? Htccess redir?

[ecchi]

Well I don't know about tube sites, but I do the same thing with TGPs using a Perl script that I wrote myself. There are commercial scripts available in Perl, PHP, C, etc...... However I would strongly urge you to learn Perl and write your own scripts. If you put in a couple of hours a day you can learn enough to begin writing good scripts in less than a week, then learn anything else as you need it.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Well I don't know about tube sites, but I do the same thing with TGPs using a Perl script that I wrote myself. There are commercial scripts available in Perl, PHP, C, etc...... However I would strongly urge you to learn Perl and write your own scripts. If you put in a couple of hours a day you can learn enough to begin writing good scripts in less than a week, then learn anything else as you need it.

I think we are long past having to learn to code and write our own programs. This the script that I use.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I think we are long past having to learn to code and write our own programs.

Outsourcing - the first stage of giving away your money and control of your site. You buy an "off the peg" script and any other fool can buy the same script, take it apart and work out how to hack into your site.

[JefersoN]

I have TradeExpert installed...
You mean this feature?
http://www.tradeexpert.net/docs/single/#redirections

I am using mod_rewrite to display the pages in my site, I see in the docs need create a include with each page ($te3_page="asian"; $te3_page="teen";
$te3_page="mature") and so on.. I dont think will work on my site because every page is created via mod_rewrite

[JefersoN]

Here a live sample:

moviesxnxx.net/Matures
Take some time and make a few clicks on its thumbs, when the trade script send the surfer to a partner, most them goes also to a mature page from its partner...... same thing happens in other category
moviesxnxx.net/Teens



If someone knows a good script, wanna sell, or setup this for me here is my ICQ#164-38six
We can make some deal $$...

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Outsourcing - the first stage of giving away your money and control of your site. You buy an "off the peg" script and any other fool can buy the same script, take it apart and work out how to hack into your site.

You need to get some fresh tinfoil.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by JefersoN

I have TradeExpert installed...
You mean this feature?
http://www.tradeexpert.net/docs/single/#redirections

I am using mod_rewrite to display the pages in my site, I see in the docs need create a include with each page ($te3_page="asian"; $te3_page="teen";
$te3_page="mature") and so on.. I dont think will work on my site because every page is created via mod_rewrite

Usually there is someplace in whatever script you are using to add the code so that it gets added to URL of whatever page your script sends surfers to.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Cleo

You need to get some fresh tinfoil.

Actually I speak from experience. Although I know how to write a Perl script I know very little about email protocol. So a few years back when I needed a script that sent out an auto reply to people who used a form to ask me question, I bought an "off the peg" script to do this. Some asswipe who also owned the same script had worked out how to use the form to send out bulk spam. The first I knew about it was after one of the spam victims traced the spam to source, complained to my host, and they closed down all of my sites. It took we a week to prove to them that I was not sending the spam before they re-opened my sites. A week without earning. Plus by the time the sites came back several traffic trades and link trades had seen my sites 404ing and had dropped the trades/links. It took me over half a year to get my traffic levels back up to where they had been before I installed the script.

So stop advising newbies to risk getting in the same shit. I was an experienced WM when this happened and was able to take the loss of earnings and competent enough to fix the problem (all be it with a lot of work and a lot of time). If it had happened when I was a newbie I would probably have given up WMing and got back to being a jeweller or salesman.

Originally Posted by Cleo

Usually there is someplace in whatever script you are using to add the code so that it gets added to URL of whatever page your script sends surfers to.

(my bold italics added)

And this reply also makes my point. Because JefersoN is using an "off the peg" script that neither of us know, you are having to use words like "someplace" and "whatever" which, although you are trying to help, is basically saying "read the fucking manual". If JefersoN had written the script, then they would know what and where because they will have created the "someplace" themselves.

Also, if it turns out that this script does not actually do what JefersoN wants it to do, it is useless and they will have to shell out more money buying another script. If JefersoN had written this script themselves, they could simply adapt it a bit to make it do what they want it to do!

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by JefersoN

If someone knows a good script, wanna sell, or setup this for me here is my ICQ#164-38six

If you do buy a new script, don't get someone else to set it up for you unless they are your full time employee or the company that hosts the script. You need someone who knows how the script is running at your side 24/7. Since I am assuming you are a new webmaster working alone, I'm guessing that a "full time employee" is beyond your means at the moment. This means you have nominated yourself as the guy in charge of the script. Before you set it up, learn how it works, learn how to troubleshoot, and learn how to set it up (I don't necessarily mean learn to code - although that is always your best option - I mean learn how the script you buy works and how to manage it).

There are three reasons I say this:

1) When things go wrong there has to someone who can deal with it instantly not "tomorrow" or "next Tuesday". Delay will kill your site (see my example to Cleo in my last post). And with tube sites there are so many that if yours is down for a day, your regulars will simply switch allegiance to your competitor.

2) If you are paying someone to do all this work you are going to find that for every $1 you make, you will be paying out $2, which will send you bankrupt!

3) If you don't have the dedication and work ethic to learn how to run the script yourself you do not have the dedication and work ethic required to succeed in this business. Despite the moaning and bitching you read on boards like this one it is possible to make a good living out of running websites, but it is not a quick easy job, it requires a lot of work, a lot of effort, and a lot of your time. If you are doing it as a hobby and don't expect to make any money then fine, fit it in to your life as it suits you. But if you want to run a website seriously and make money, then you have to do it the other way round, and fit your life in around your website.

When I started out (way back last century) I was doing a regular full time job, then coming home and working on my websites until bedtime. Getting up in the morning and fitting in another couple of hours before leaving for work. In total (day job and WMing) I was working well over a hundred hours a week, every week. You won't have to do that forever, but if you are not prepared to do it for a few months (or possibly longer), give up now and save yourself from disappointment later.

[Cleo]

Do you also keep bugout supplies

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Do you also keep bugout supplies

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Do you also keep bugout supplies

I'm guessing "bugout" is an American product. Remember I am in England so if you reference some part of American culture that is unknown in Europe you gotta explain your reference if you expect non-Americans to understand what you are talking about!

[Cleo]

Bugout supplies

Bugout bag

I guess being English you would also pack some tea and a towel in addition to the duct tape.

[JefersoN]

Here a live sample:

MILF PAGE:
http://50den.com/category/717/Milf/ctr/1/?4x6x2923

Please click to besttubeclips.xxx link on its toplist (Best Tube Clips)...... It will go to a MILF page!

Exactly what I wanna do....
is that what you guys was talking about?

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I guess being English you would also pack some tea and a towel in addition to the duct tape.

No tea, no duct tape, and no BugOut bag. But I do carry a towel (it's a tough universe out there, you gotta have a towel). I also have three sonic screwdrivers and a small wood saw (because sonic screwdrivers don't work on wood).

Originally Posted by JefersoN

Exactly what I wanna do....
is that what you guys was talking about?

Not entirely sure what you no longer understand. There are just two ways of doing what you want to do:

1) Buy an appropriate trade script, read the manual and learn how to use it. Once you have done that, if you still have problems with the script someone here might be able to help you, but only if they have the same script. And you would have to be able to say what you have done and what happened when you did it. Just repeatedly posting links and saying "I want the magic to happen on my site, please make the magic happen" is not going to work, you have to set up a script first.

OR 2) You could learn some CGI language (I'd recommend Perl, but others will tell you PHP) and write your own script.

But you do have to do a bit of work and set up a script first. If you can then still not get it to work, someone here will probably be able to help you. But we cannot just wave a magic wand and make your site work, you need something on your site for us to help you with.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by ecchi

NI also have three sonic screwdrivers

I bet if JefersoN owned a sonic screwdriver he wouldn't be having this issue.

[JefersoN]

I´ve installed both scripts.... Trade Expert and Crystal Trader.... both are configured, but it seems not working at all...

The pages keep going to my index page...

Trade Expert:
Added the codes, setup the Redirect by category function and pages.... nothing happens...

Crystal trader
Added de codes, configured Niches, Uri pattern.... and again, nothing

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by JefersoN

The pages keep going to my index page.

It sounds as though your server thinks you want to go to a page on your site, cannot find that site, so defaults to your index page as a 404. I can think of four mistakes you may have made that could cause this:

1) Are you sure you added the http or https part of the trade URL?

2) Are you sure you have NOT done this in the case of the link to your script (in the case of Trade Expert it must be in the form a href="/te3/out.php")?

3) Are you sure that you have set the folder permissions to allow scripts to be executed by everyone (not just owner)?

4) Are you sure that your server is set to allow PHP pages to run?

[Cleo]

It would be helpful if JefersoN posted the URL of his site.

[JefersoN]

Its a new site, I'm still working on it.. www.yetiporntube.com

Im trading with this site and also using this page to make tests and see if the redirect is working...

http://50den.com/category/717/Milf/ctr/1/

[JefersoN]

Originally Posted by ecchi

It sounds as though your server thinks you want to go to a page on your site, cannot find that site, so defaults to your index page as a 404. I can think of four mistakes you may have made that could cause this:

1) Are you sure you added the http or https part of the trade URL?

2) Are you sure you have NOT done this in the case of the link to your script (in the case of Trade Expert it must be in the form a href="/te3/out.php")?

3) Are you sure that you have set the folder permissions to allow scripts to be executed by everyone (not just owner)?

4) Are you sure that your server is set to allow PHP pages to run?

1-Yep
2-Yep
3-Yep
4-Yep

[Cleo]

Your code looks wrong.


Code on example site that works

http://www.yetiporntube.com/out.php?id=325018&cat=German&url=http://xhamster.com/movies/248408/tori_black_and_dana_dearmond_take_the_big_black_cock.html

Your code

http://hugesex.tv/content.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fxhamster.com%2Fmovies%2F1651135%2Ffuck_housemaid_2.html&v=v6IPALwAAQkA

[JAI-LING]

Originally Posted by JefersoN

Its a new site, I'm still working on it.. www.yetiporntube.com

Im trading with this site and also using this page to make tests and see if the redirect is working...

http://50den.com/category/717/Milf/ctr/1/

Niccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccce e.

[JefersoN]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Your code looks wrong.


Code on example site that works

http://www.yetiporntube.com/out.php?id=325018&cat=German&url=http://xhamster.com/movies/248408/tori_black_and_dana_dearmond_take_the_big_black_cock.html

Your code

http://hugesex.tv/content.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fxhamster.com%2Fmovies%2F1651135%2Ffuck_housemaid_2.html&v=v6IPALwAAQkA

my code is the first...

i dont get it
anyway, the trouble is with 'incoming hits' (ins/refer) not outgoing traffic... (outs)

the script dont recognize which category page the surfer was sent by my trader to redirect to same category page in my site