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Old 2005-03-08, 12:41 PM   #1
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Calling all honest linklist owners, I have something special for you.

Here it is.

I've been a gallery builder first and foremost from day one in this business, regardless of any other business I do. I know my galleries are good, my stats tell me that.

If you're willing to honestly look at my freesite when I submit it to you and if you don't like it but are willing to be honest & send me an e-mail even if it says "fuck off" then this is what I will do for you. I will do this regardless of your size of how much traffic you send.

I will do this on your integrity and the fact that you're not doing anything underhanded to leach my traffic in any way.
  • I promise to build nice, attractive sites for you.
  • I promise to follow the rules.
  • I promise to use a real e-mail address, the one that comes to my outlook.
  • I promise to run your recip.
  • I promise to not remove your your recip for not listing some odd site, as long as you are honest with me day to day.
  • I promise to use above average content, because this helps us both.
  • I promise to not change the pages outside of the rules.
  • I promise to not redirect anyone and I believe that even surfers from Croatia or Yugoslavia have a right to view porn.
  • I promise to not remove the pages that I submitted.
  • I believe there is WAY more money in playing fair than any cheater could ever make.

I have a list of you already to begin with. I'm submitting to you now.

If you're new or small or huge but honest and want my submits, just post your site.

If you don't want to, that's cool.

Finally, this is not a pissing match about why you don't send e-mails out. I have my own opinions about that and I don't care nor need your explanation.

Thank you

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Old 2005-03-08, 12:42 PM   #2
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So those of us that do not send out emails are "dishonest"?

Good to know
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Old 2005-03-08, 12:47 PM   #3
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So those of us that do not send out emails are "dishonest"?

Good to know
Did it say that? I see it says "honest linklist owners .. willing to send mail. You can read it however you like.

As a matter of opinion think of this. A sponsor who collects addresses off of their join page and mails your surfer direct links.. is that cheating?

I guess to some people it is. They're getting at least some of your traffic and you get nothing in return.

I am one of the good webmasters. When I do business, I expect business back. There is no other option.

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Old 2005-03-08, 01:05 PM   #4
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You want us to post our sites if we agree? We run an honest list and I do send out rejection emails if there's a fixable problem on a site. I will not bother sending a rejection notice if the problem isn't something the webmaster can fix without just making a new site. Examples:
Site title is totally misleading - content doesn't match
Overused content - someone else submitted same content recently
Multiple rules violations - if you don't take the time to see what the submission rules are, I don't take the time to write you a nice letter.
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Old 2005-03-08, 01:09 PM   #5
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As I said in the other thread, I send accept/reject emails. Feel free to apply for a submit account here: http://www.scorpiolinks.com/apply.php
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Old 2005-03-08, 01:20 PM   #6
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Ok, I don't have either one of you in my recip table. I will add you right now.

You will be run alongside some large sites and I will get a very nice site out to you this afternoon just as soon as I get some time.

Thank you very much

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Old 2005-03-08, 01:47 PM   #7
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Hi AST,
I send out accept/rejection emails also, and would be glad to have you submit your sites
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Old 2005-03-08, 01:58 PM   #8
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Thank you

I will have you added right away
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Old 2005-03-08, 02:06 PM   #9
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I send accept emails and reject when its deserved some who continue to break rules get a few and then if they keep up I BL and lately I been BLing and sending very few reject emails..
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Old 2005-03-08, 02:32 PM   #10
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I don't send rejection emails. Too much crap goes along with that. If that makes me dishonest, oh well.
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Old 2005-03-08, 02:36 PM   #11
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Old 2005-03-08, 02:41 PM   #12
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What dareutwo said.
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Old 2005-03-08, 02:45 PM   #13
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I don't send rejection emails. Too much crap goes along with that. If that makes me dishonest, oh well.
Well at least you take the time to make sure I get that link-laden e-mail right after I submit, huh?

Not only do you not send reject e-mails, according to my server stats you only actually review 1 out of 6 sites anyhow, so, you don't even know that your recip is on them along with sites that are actually sending traffic. (which, I have removed).

Yea, you're the cornerstone of honesty. Forgive me.

The thread to bitch in is: HERE , so please stop jumping my thread if you aren't going to "play by my rules". It's not posted for your own disgruntlement.

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Old 2005-03-08, 02:46 PM   #14
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What dareutwo said.
What I said.

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Old 2005-03-08, 02:48 PM   #15
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cfnmparty
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Jays
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Removed. Thank you.

marks - umm.. does anyone ever go there ?

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Old 2005-03-08, 02:51 PM   #16
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I don't send rejection emails. Too much crap goes along with that. If that makes me dishonest, oh well.
OK peeps..a little clarification here...

AST DID NOT say that those of you that do not send out e-mails are dishonest. He simply said those of you honest webmasters that DO send out e-mails....he would like an opprotunity to do business with you.

If you are an honest webmaster that doesn't send out e-mails, there is no need to respond...if you are an honest webmaster that DOES send out e-mails, then it's a business opprotunity..PERIOD.

Why is that so hard to understand...he didn't even imply that you are not honest if you don't send out accept/reject mails...jeez people, are you just looking for an argument?
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Old 2005-03-08, 02:56 PM   #17
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We don't send rejects every time.....most of our rejects are for very major reasons....IE missing images....horrible design....etc...

I 2nd dareutwo.

But do welcome your sites.....

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We don't send rejects every time.....most of our rejects are for very major reasons....IE missing images....horrible design
I'm not clear.

You don't send a reject mail if you just decide not to list it.

You do send a reject mail if it's a major infraction?

BTW..

I think I'm getting approval mails from you? I think you send those. That tells me at least you are reviewing sites and not skipping 5 out of 6 .. or .. reviewing them and just not listing any of them at all.

Ok. You get to stay.

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Yea....we try to email OKed sites.....actually am updating the script to verify emails are set when they are OKed. The rejected sites normally don't get emailed unless we know it was an honest mistake....as opposed to a recip table all mis-sized...and popups...etc.

Keep in mind...we remind all our submitters to use our search feature to find your domains.....ie search on rootdomain.com ad see what is listed.

http://www.freesitexxx.com/cgi-bin/xxxx/search.cgi

Submit here http://www.freesitexxx.com/cgi-bin/xxxx/add.cgi
and our other LL here http://www.theporncollection.com/cgi-bin/xxx/add.cgi

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Thank you.

Actually, your first post a few days ago about that search function is what got me started doing some free sites

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Great! Free sites vs TGP galleries are a different sorta creature....decent traffic up front....but SE traffic over the longer term....good luck!

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Quote:
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...If you're willing to honestly look at my freesite when I submit it to you and if you don't like it but are willing to be honest & send me an e-mail even if it says "fuck off" then this is what I will do for you. I will do this regardless of your size of how much traffic you send.
I do not send rejections emails, therefore, by your analogy, I am not honest.


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  • I promise to build nice, attractive sites for you.
  • I promise to follow the rules.
  • I promise to use a real e-mail address, the one that comes to my outlook.
  • I promise to run your recip.
  • I promise to not remove your your recip for not listing some odd site, as long as you are honest with me day to day.
  • I promise to use above average content, because this helps us both.
  • I promise to not change the pages outside of the rules.
  • I promise to not redirect anyone and I believe that even surfers from Croatia or Yugoslavia have a right to view porn.
  • I promise to not remove the pages that I submitted.
  • I believe there is WAY more money in playing fair than any cheater could ever make.
That will get you listed everytime, no emails required
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Old 2005-03-08, 04:06 PM   #23
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Yeah that is what I was thinking

I do send an e-mail if it is a regular submitter but then it is extremely rare that there is a problem with a regular submitter's site.

My site also has a search function if someone wants to look for their stuff.
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Old 2005-03-08, 04:13 PM   #24
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Old 2005-03-08, 04:24 PM   #25
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Sounds good to me.

Signup for a submit account here to submit freesites:
http://thextimes.com/linklist/users/login.php

The site is not launched yet (but you can still submit sites, read the rules, grab the recip, etc...), it will be up and running by Thursday March 10th at the latest. Feel free to submit your sites (up to 10 a day)...I will make sure I send out rejection emails if need be.

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