Rob Black and Lizzy Borden get 1 year and a day in prison

[jacklynlick]

I do believe it was mailing it that was a problem. There are many states that you just can't mail any type of porn to. I know when I was on tour and I would get Wicked to ship me my films, there were certain States I was in where they just wouldn't ship them to me.

Of course, it's my belief that consenting people should be able to have what ever fantasy they wish, but, unfortunately for Rob and Lizzy, they were already under the fed's radar. They were featured on an America's Most Wanted in association with a wrestler that had gotten his thumb cut off quite some time ago. As far as I know, no one was ever arrested in that situation. And, as far as I know, they could never prove that they were associated. But, moral of the story.................... don't piss the Fed's off.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by jacklynlick

...But, moral of the story.................... don't piss the Fed's off.

Yup, same lesson learned by Joe Francis (Girls Gone Wild) and Paul Little (Max Hardcore).

If the Feds put you in their cross-hairs, they'll eventually find a way to lock your ass up.

[domweb]

Originally Posted by jacklynlick

I do believe it was mailing it that was a problem.

Mailing may have been what brought them down, but when similar acts of fictional degradation, urination, humiliation were used to prosecute Max Hardcorde, they used both the mail and downloading from the net as evidence to sentence him to four years in lockup.

Writing for Salon, Glenn Greenwald wrote: “So, to recap, in the Land of the Free: if you’re an adult who produces a film using other consenting adults, for the entertainment of still other consenting adults, which merely depicts fictional acts of humiliation and degradation, the DOJ will prosecute you and send you to prison for years. The claim that no real pain was inflicted will be rejected; mere humiliation is enough to make you a criminal."

Both downloading clip and ordering his material in the mail was used by prosecutors to convict him: "According to evidence in the trial, federal investigators in January 2006 purchased an online membership to the Max Hardcore Web site and downloaded five promotional video clips. Then, in March 2007, an undercover postal inspector bought five DVDs from the Web site, having them delivered to a post office box in Tampa."

So....since they used both the mail and online downloads to gather evidence, the waters are muddy again.

The only thing that seems clear is to steer clear of anything approaching BDSM or it's fetishistic cousins.

If your judge has a secret desire to be spanked or let a Dominatrix pee on them (very common fantasy/paycheck as reported by the Dom working girls I have hung with) and cannot deal with it, they just might lash out at the target of prosecution.

Kinda like gay bashing. Just legal and a different sexual 'deviance from the norm' than homosexuality.

That or the judge is a prude and several other words I might use but won't.

I guess I am glad I stuck with solo shemales.

Originally Posted by jacklynlick

But, moral of the story.................... don't piss the Fed's off.

Originally Posted by Toby

If the Feds put you in their cross-hairs, they'll eventually find a way to lock your ass up.

True, dat. But I don't know of too many legal industries you can start a business in with such a low money investment threshold (and such a large time investment).