Sharing A Small Link List Success Story

Greenguy · 2012-02-28, 10:24 AM

This post was a reply in this thread over in the SEO forum, but I thought I'd share it with everyone

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I don't know if this means anything or not, but here it goes...

In July of 2010 I opened Real Sexy Girlfriends. I did this site because, at the time, girlfriend sites were just starting to pop & I'm still a big fan of real amateur pics/vids. Also, I had a SHITLOAD of girlfriend free sites, so I could populate the categories with my own sites before it opened so that the pages would not look bare.

Now, please note that NONE of those girlfriend free sites that I had already built linked back to the new link list - and they still don't. (of course, new free sites that I build do link back to the index) To get links flowing into the site, I asked for a lot of trades - most of which did not reciprocate

But, my links to them remain on the pages because I'm lazy

I also made up some table/text "ads" that I slapped around my hubs. Some were niche specific (see http://www.liveamateurlesbians.com/) and some were general & linked to each category (see http://www.adultwebsex.com/) I linked to each category page from all of my other link lists.

I did as much as I could with my own traffic/sites - with the exception of all those free sites - that'd be WAY to much work & upload time to add a link to each of those.

In October 2011 I joined Linkspun. In 5 months, I've set up 300+ inbound trades, most (if not all) coming off other girlfriend sites or amateurs & niche specific pages. The trades go to the main page as well as the category pages. I have no proof, but I do feel that this has helped out a great deal.

So, a little over 1-1/2 years later where am I? I'd say it's doing good. It gets about 500 hits a day (50% referral traffic from inbound links & 40% search engine) I'm in the top 10 for many of the keywords that I targeted, the best being "sexy girlfriends"

My analytics look like complete SHIT when you think about what a site should be:
2.17 Pages/Visit
00:01:37 Avg. Time on Site
64.28% Bounce Rate

But, I am making sales off the ads/text on the category pages. I'm not gonna get rich off them, but YTD it's about 15 sales (4 with 1 program that's paying $45/signup in Feb

)

Also, there is NOTHING else on this domain - no free sites or galleries of blogs - nothing.

I did use some basic HTML5 tags on the pages, like:
<header>
<hgroup>
<details>
<summary>
<nav>
<section>
<figure>
<figcaption>
<footer>

My point in all this? It does still work....sorta

I won't bore you with the details of Sunshine Lesbians, but I've employed the same strategy & had less-than stellar results (I will say it's only been open 9 months, so maybe it'll have similar results 9 months from now)

Now, I know this way of marketing a link list may be looked at as difficult for some of you because I am a "BIG" guy

But in reality, you can do the exact same thing I did. I still list category pages on the bottom of LOR's category pages, so you can get links from the big link lists. You should all have hubs where you can push a new site. You REALLY should be on Linkspun as it's a fucking fantastic way to make trades outside of your normal circle.

Why don't I do more? Lately, I've been going back thru the existing link lists that I have & fixing them up a bit. But I do think that I will make another niche specific link list in the near future.

So there ya go! Proof that the old model mixed with a little new thinking does work - or at least could work

bDok · 2012-02-28, 12:07 PM

Thanks for an actual business post. I think it just shows once again that hard work pays off! (Working hard and smart using some of today's standard SEO tactics.)

Jeremy82 · 2012-02-28, 02:18 PM

It is good to know, that not only the tubes, but also estabilished link sites are able to ranking on top. Congratulations! After reading this post I'm seriously considering my registration at LinkSpun.

LD · 2012-02-28, 03:03 PM

I signed up for LinkSpun a while back, but Greenie has inspired me to actually use it...

. One thing I am distilling from all this info is that recips on freesites are nice for a few hits here and there, but really hold very little value for SEO and traffic building in general.

Fonz · 2012-02-28, 04:10 PM

Nice post. It made me log in into linkspun just to find out my account was set to "invisible to other users" since 10/31/2011 because I was inactive for too long

Cleaning up my trades now.

I might focus on one site now and try to get a whole bunch of backlinks to it.

LD · 2012-02-28, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz

I might focus on one site now and try to get a whole bunch of backlinks to it.

Good idea, that's what I'm trying to do. But I suck at focusing...

Greenguy · 2012-02-28, 05:56 PM

If I remember correctly, it took me about 2 weeks to build the site. Now it's just checking submits & linking - maybe 30 min a week?

Not a bad trade off for time/money

mOrrI · 2012-02-28, 07:41 PM

Man I need to pick up on that html5

also, Greenie do use html5 on your LL linkorama?

thinking of redoing my LL, but the prossess isn't easy..

Greenguy · 2012-02-28, 08:50 PM

I think I have some basic HTML5 on LOR, but not that much.

hony · 2012-02-29, 04:15 AM

Linkspun, they keep sending me reminders and I've never really looked at it. Thanks for the prompt and I'll go check it out.

LeRoy · 2012-02-29, 12:30 PM

Nice!

This is motivating for Links Lists and submitters too

Sales happen when people hit your site from Google!

mOrrI · 2012-02-29, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

I think I have some basic HTML5 on LOR, but not that much.

Well just got my hand on a html5 book...

Btw, do you take into account the old browsers?

Since not all support html5?

Greenguy · 2012-02-29, 07:06 PM

The HTML5 that I use is VERY basic.

ponyman · 2012-03-01, 04:31 AM

Been using Linkspun myself. It works well once you get a good "blocked" list going. There are lots of users on there with crappy sites they want you to link to. Once you find users with nice sites that you want to trade links with, it works really well.

fetishbank · 2012-03-01, 12:28 PM

I've been using it for three months now. I'm putting some time there setting up trades but I'm already having a small traffic increase (which is good these days!) and a bunch of pages moved from PR1 to PR2 (which is also good). If I will ever be able to get a PR3 in one of my internal pages, that would be an EXCELLENT result. I will let you know if that happen....

Overall, I think it is well spent time. I've set up some good trades, found some new good sponsors and made some news friends too. If you've not tried it, I would recommend at least to give it a try, to see if it can help your business...

mOrrI · 2012-03-01, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

The HTML5 that I use is VERY basic.

I see... I got the book to see what is the new concept and what's new about it!

sakthi · 2012-03-10, 05:37 AM

it is a interesting sharing.........

2012-02-28, 10:24 AM	#1
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	Sharing A Small Link List Success Story This post was a reply in this thread over in the SEO forum, but I thought I'd share it with everyone ----- I don't know if this means anything or not, but here it goes... In July of 2010 I opened Real Sexy Girlfriends. I did this site because, at the time, girlfriend sites were just starting to pop & I'm still a big fan of real amateur pics/vids. Also, I had a SHITLOAD of girlfriend free sites, so I could populate the categories with my own sites before it opened so that the pages would not look bare. Now, please note that NONE of those girlfriend free sites that I had already built linked back to the new link list - and they still don't. (of course, new free sites that I build do link back to the index) To get links flowing into the site, I asked for a lot of trades - most of which did not reciprocate But, my links to them remain on the pages because I'm lazy I also made up some table/text "ads" that I slapped around my hubs. Some were niche specific (see http://www.liveamateurlesbians.com/) and some were general & linked to each category (see http://www.adultwebsex.com/) I linked to each category page from all of my other link lists. I did as much as I could with my own traffic/sites - with the exception of all those free sites - that'd be WAY to much work & upload time to add a link to each of those. In October 2011 I joined Linkspun. In 5 months, I've set up 300+ inbound trades, most (if not all) coming off other girlfriend sites or amateurs & niche specific pages. The trades go to the main page as well as the category pages. I have no proof, but I do feel that this has helped out a great deal. So, a little over 1-1/2 years later where am I? I'd say it's doing good. It gets about 500 hits a day (50% referral traffic from inbound links & 40% search engine) I'm in the top 10 for many of the keywords that I targeted, the best being "sexy girlfriends" My analytics look like complete SHIT when you think about what a site should be: 2.17 Pages/Visit 00:01:37 Avg. Time on Site 64.28% Bounce Rate But, I am making sales off the ads/text on the category pages. I'm not gonna get rich off them, but YTD it's about 15 sales (4 with 1 program that's paying $45/signup in Feb ) Also, there is NOTHING else on this domain - no free sites or galleries of blogs - nothing. I did use some basic HTML5 tags on the pages, like: <header> <hgroup> <details> <summary> <nav> <section> <figure> <figcaption> <footer> My point in all this? It does still work....sorta I won't bore you with the details of Sunshine Lesbians, but I've employed the same strategy & had less-than stellar results (I will say it's only been open 9 months, so maybe it'll have similar results 9 months from now) Now, I know this way of marketing a link list may be looked at as difficult for some of you because I am a "BIG" guy But in reality, you can do the exact same thing I did. I still list category pages on the bottom of LOR's category pages, so you can get links from the big link lists. You should all have hubs where you can push a new site. You REALLY should be on Linkspun as it's a fucking fantastic way to make trades outside of your normal circle. Why don't I do more? Lately, I've been going back thru the existing link lists that I have & fixing them up a bit. But I do think that I will make another niche specific link list in the near future. So there ya go! Proof that the old model mixed with a little new thinking does work - or at least could work __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2012-02-28, 12:07 PM	#2
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2012-02-28, 02:18 PM	#3
Jeremy82 You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 988	It is good to know, that not only the tubes, but also estabilished link sites are able to ranking on top. Congratulations! After reading this post I'm seriously considering my registration at LinkSpun. __________________ FeetSexVids.com Last edited by Jeremy82; 2012-02-28 at 02:23 PM..

2012-02-28, 03:03 PM	#4
LD wtfwjd? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,103	I signed up for LinkSpun a while back, but Greenie has inspired me to actually use it.... One thing I am distilling from all this info is that recips on freesites are nice for a few hits here and there, but really hold very little value for SEO and traffic building in general. __________________ Artisteer Wordpress Theme Generator Create Custom Themes! My Little Network

2012-02-28, 04:10 PM	#5
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	Nice post. It made me log in into linkspun just to find out my account was set to "invisible to other users" since 10/31/2011 because I was inactive for too long Cleaning up my trades now. I might focus on one site now and try to get a whole bunch of backlinks to it. __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2012-02-28, 05:56 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	If I remember correctly, it took me about 2 weeks to build the site. Now it's just checking submits & linking - maybe 30 min a week? Not a bad trade off for time/money __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2012-02-28, 07:41 PM	#8
mOrrI You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,083	Man I need to pick up on that html5 also, Greenie do use html5 on your LL linkorama? thinking of redoing my LL, but the prossess isn't easy.. __________________

2012-02-28, 08:50 PM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	I think I have some basic HTML5 on LOR, but not that much. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2012-02-29, 04:15 AM	#10
hony If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 249	Linkspun, they keep sending me reminders and I've never really looked at it. Thanks for the prompt and I'll go check it out. __________________ $$$ Webcam programs that earn for me -- YMMV $$$

2012-02-29, 12:30 PM	#11
LeRoy "Young dumb and full of cum" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,370	Nice! This is motivating for Links Lists and submitters too Sales happen when people hit your site from Google! __________________ JAPANESE ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAM

2012-02-29, 07:06 PM	#13
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,775	The HTML5 that I use is VERY basic. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2012-03-01, 04:31 AM	#14
ponyman Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 422	Been using Linkspun myself. It works well once you get a good "blocked" list going. There are lots of users on there with crappy sites they want you to link to. Once you find users with nice sites that you want to trade links with, it works really well. __________________ Dirty Old Men Sponsors - gay & straight

2012-03-01, 12:28 PM	#15
fetishbank Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 93	I've been using it for three months now. I'm putting some time there setting up trades but I'm already having a small traffic increase (which is good these days!) and a bunch of pages moved from PR1 to PR2 (which is also good). If I will ever be able to get a PR3 in one of my internal pages, that would be an EXCELLENT result. I will let you know if that happen.... Overall, I think it is well spent time. I've set up some good trades, found some new good sponsors and made some news friends too. If you've not tried it, I would recommend at least to give it a try, to see if it can help your business... __________________ Jay de Vos, Fetish Bank webmaster

2012-03-10, 05:37 AM	#17
sakthi Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3	it is a interesting sharing.........