Epassport Drama

emmanuelle · 2007-06-13, 10:25 AM

In the recent Epic Cash mailer, they wrote:

"Epic Cash Announcement
epassporte no longer an option for payment

**IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT**
Epic Cash will no longer use the epassporte system any longer as a payment option.

Why you ask?
For the simple fact they have put the adult webmasters and affiliate programs at risk."

Does anybody know what this is about?

Fonz · 2007-06-13, 10:27 AM

Apparently more and more affiliate programs get their bank accounts closed because they are doing business with ePassporte. And ePassporte does handle a lot of gambling transactions and banks don't seem to like that.
That's what I've heard, ofcourse what do I know?

Jim · 2007-06-13, 10:40 AM

I read that too...
It happened to me almost 2 years ago and finally other banks are doing it.

Bobc01 · 2007-06-13, 10:44 AM

Do the banks feel threatened or something or is there something more sinister to all this?

Jim · 2007-06-13, 10:46 AM

With my bank, they told me that they though of epassporte as an offshore bank account. That was before the gambling problem came to light.

Fonz · 2007-06-13, 10:49 AM

I guess we'll be getting only checks again in a few months

Bobc01 · 2007-06-13, 10:54 AM

Could it be that Epassporte is a cheaper and more efficient way of paying webmasters and the banks don't like the fact being as it costs $25 or even £20 here to do a wire transfer through a bank.

I don't know what the gambling problem is but it seems to me that banks don't like cheaper competition.

Jim · 2007-06-13, 11:00 AM

I really don't think this is a banking conspiracy Bob. My wires were free.

Bobc01 · 2007-06-13, 11:04 AM

Well it would be a shame to loose payments through epassporte.

Maybe it will get resolved somehow.

Toni KatVixen · 2007-06-13, 12:53 PM

From my bank, to send an international wire from the US is about $40-50. $25 to send within the US

Then if you are receiving, it is about $10-20.

Then if there is a lot of "stops" on the way, you may get more fees.

Those are about standard rates.

Porn Junkie · 2007-06-13, 01:08 PM

so are you all going to be moving away from epassporte then? Been looking into it but I hear mixed reviews.

Im paranoid with my money

SheepGuy · 2007-06-13, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie

so are you all going to be moving away from epassporte then? Been looking into it but I hear mixed reviews.

Im paranoid with my money

So am I

Which is why I've never used epassporte.

sabin · 2007-06-13, 02:37 PM

I'm having a hell of a time trying to open up an account with them, chase visa no likey.

JackDaniel's · 2007-06-13, 03:35 PM

The only major problem I had with them is that my country is on their banned list and I had to open a controlled account which has certain restrictions.

ladydesigner · 2007-06-13, 06:10 PM

I'm also paranoid with my money which is why about a year ago I switched 99.5% of my affiliate payments to Epassport. I can't reply on my mail system here to deliver my checks plus when the mail contractors deliver my checks to the wrong mail box, my lovely neighbors send them back to sender instead of giving them to me. I had thought Epassport would solve all this and assure I'd get all my money. I've recently started having a few processing problems with them which I hadn't had up until now. I guess I may have to go back to the ol' paper check method. Will keep my eyes open to any new Epassport developments.

emmanuelle · 2007-06-13, 07:51 PM

Is it possible that gambling aside, the gov feels that it's too easy to launder money through epass? Homeland security really stepped up on the banks and how they send international funds, even up here. Every time I've sent a wire from Montreal to Russia, a bank in NY would phone me to ask why I'm sending it, on top of the usual security precautions like my photo id, blood type, shoe size....

Incredible_Wil · 2007-06-15, 12:42 AM

The worst part of the whole situation, is that the banks don't ask questions first and then act later. They shut down your account, and any other accounts that you have with them. They are so afraid of the big brother, that they don't really care what your side of the story is. To them, Epass = gambling.

Then, the best part.. is that they notify you by snail mail. Most people find out when logging in to check the status of a transaction.

terry · 2007-06-15, 08:45 AM

I havent spoken to anyone at epic but 2 other sponsors told me that they are taking advice from their lawyers and removing epass before "the shit hits the fan"... whatever that means.

Neo · 2007-06-15, 05:17 PM

The effort involved in getting an e-pass tells a story, i ran a mile as soon as it was apparent. I used to get frustrated at how people raved on about it being great purely because the next man did, i thought it was poor and it seems its showing its longevity now. Plus didnt the founder make his cash and go to the beach leaving the office in chaos ?

|shocking|

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

So am I

Which is why I've never used epassporte.

JohnnyR · 2007-06-15, 05:32 PM

all in all, i honestly hope epassporte doesn't go away. whatever it's not, it's certainly convenient!

dready · 2007-06-16, 04:47 PM

They're obviously having some issues with the gambling thing, but I think they'll hang on for a while yet. *crosses fingers*

Kenny B! · 2007-06-17, 11:37 AM

I think epass is a great system and hope they can work through these issues and stick around for the long term.

Jim · 2007-06-17, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

I think epass is a great system and hope they can work through these issues and stick around for the long term.

I agree Kenny. Epassporte is a very good thing for the adult webmaster community if only for webmasters that have problems with checks and wires who live outside the US.

One thing I have to wonder and will check out with my old bank. When a bank decides they no longer want to deal with people using epassporte, do there ATM's still allow people to withdraw money with an epass card?

Bobc01 · 2007-06-17, 01:44 PM

Anyone know of any UK banks that don't or won't deal with them?
I've not had any issues withdrawing on mine from any bank here.

Kenny B! · 2007-06-18, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

One thing I have to wonder and will check out with my old bank. When a bank decides they no longer want to deal with people using epassporte, do there ATM's still allow people to withdraw money with an epass card?

I believe so, I have withdrawn funds from various ATM's in the US and Canada and never had any issues. I also use the card at many retail locations and have never had any issues.

The only problem I had was an ATM in a mall didn't release my cash and I had to go through epass to get my funds back, the wait time for the CS line was a bit lengthy but they got my $ back into my account.

I hope they can work things out because the system is great!

2007-06-13, 10:25 AM	#1
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	Epassport Drama In the recent Epic Cash mailer, they wrote: "Epic Cash Announcement epassporte no longer an option for payment IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT Epic Cash will no longer use the epassporte system any longer as a payment option. Why you ask? For the simple fact they have put the adult webmasters and affiliate programs at risk." Does anybody know what this is about?

2007-06-13, 10:27 AM	#2
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	Apparently more and more affiliate programs get their bank accounts closed because they are doing business with ePassporte. And ePassporte does handle a lot of gambling transactions and banks don't seem to like that. That's what I've heard, ofcourse what do I know? __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2007-06-13, 10:49 AM	#6
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	I guess we'll be getting only checks again in a few months __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2007-06-13, 12:53 PM	#10
Toni KatVixen Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 420	From my bank, to send an international wire from the US is about $40-50. $25 to send within the US Then if you are receiving, it is about $10-20. Then if there is a lot of "stops" on the way, you may get more fees. Those are about standard rates. __________________ Peace toni@katvixen.com

2007-06-13, 01:08 PM	#11
Porn Junkie I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada Eh! Posts: 325	so are you all going to be moving away from epassporte then? Been looking into it but I hear mixed reviews. Im paranoid with my money __________________ EzAngels EzLinks - Submit here

2007-06-13, 10:40 AM	#3
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I read that too... It happened to me almost 2 years ago and finally other banks are doing it.

2007-06-13, 10:44 AM	#4
Bobc01 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 817	Do the banks feel threatened or something or is there something more sinister to all this?

2007-06-13, 10:46 AM	#5
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	With my bank, they told me that they though of epassporte as an offshore bank account. That was before the gambling problem came to light.

2007-06-13, 10:54 AM	#7
Bobc01 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 817	Could it be that Epassporte is a cheaper and more efficient way of paying webmasters and the banks don't like the fact being as it costs $25 or even £20 here to do a wire transfer through a bank. I don't know what the gambling problem is but it seems to me that banks don't like cheaper competition.

2007-06-13, 11:00 AM	#8
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I really don't think this is a banking conspiracy Bob. My wires were free.

2007-06-13, 11:04 AM	#9
Bobc01 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 817	Well it would be a shame to loose payments through epassporte. Maybe it will get resolved somehow.

2007-06-13, 02:37 PM	#13
sabin Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 74	I'm having a hell of a time trying to open up an account with them, chase visa no likey.

2007-06-13, 03:35 PM	#14
JackDaniel's I like work, it fascinates me, I can sit and look at it for hours... Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,217	The only major problem I had with them is that my country is on their banned list and I had to open a controlled account which has certain restrictions. __________________ Submit Your Sites : Get Porn Links

2007-06-13, 06:10 PM	#15
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	I'm also paranoid with my money which is why about a year ago I switched 99.5% of my affiliate payments to Epassport. I can't reply on my mail system here to deliver my checks plus when the mail contractors deliver my checks to the wrong mail box, my lovely neighbors send them back to sender instead of giving them to me. I had thought Epassport would solve all this and assure I'd get all my money. I've recently started having a few processing problems with them which I hadn't had up until now. I guess I may have to go back to the ol' paper check method. Will keep my eyes open to any new Epassport developments. __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

2007-06-13, 07:51 PM	#16
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	Is it possible that gambling aside, the gov feels that it's too easy to launder money through epass? Homeland security really stepped up on the banks and how they send international funds, even up here. Every time I've sent a wire from Montreal to Russia, a bank in NY would phone me to ask why I'm sending it, on top of the usual security precautions like my photo id, blood type, shoe size....

2007-06-15, 12:42 AM	#17
Incredible_Wil Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	The worst part of the whole situation, is that the banks don't ask questions first and then act later. They shut down your account, and any other accounts that you have with them. They are so afraid of the big brother, that they don't really care what your side of the story is. To them, Epass = gambling. Then, the best part.. is that they notify you by snail mail. Most people find out when logging in to check the status of a transaction. __________________

2007-06-15, 08:45 AM	#18
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	I havent spoken to anyone at epic but 2 other sponsors told me that they are taking advice from their lawyers and removing epass before "the shit hits the fan"... whatever that means. __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store

2007-06-15, 05:32 PM	#20
JohnnyR I can now put whatever I want in this space :P Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Boobville... I like it way better here Posts: 557	all in all, i honestly hope epassporte doesn't go away. whatever it's not, it's certainly convenient! __________________ With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine!

2007-06-16, 04:47 PM	#21
dready WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 45	They're obviously having some issues with the gambling thing, but I think they'll hang on for a while yet. crosses fingers __________________ Adult Image Brokers ICQ: 91139591

2007-06-17, 11:37 AM	#22
Kenny B! I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 472	I think epass is a great system and hope they can work through these issues and stick around for the long term. __________________ ken@iacash.com icq: 53962376

2007-06-17, 01:44 PM	#24
Bobc01 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 817	Anyone know of any UK banks that don't or won't deal with them? I've not had any issues withdrawing on mine from any bank here.