The Programs Listed In This Thread Have Shitty HFS's & They Are Wasting Their Money

[Linkster]

Waz The original concept behind these was to give an alternative to LLs that matched the hosted galleries that TGPs use - and that was it.

I do agree there are other reasons to build hosted free sites of a different type for entirely different purposes as some programs have with their zipped sites etc - but this type of free site we are concentrating on here is really the LLs "filler" sites just like the hosted gals and thats really it

[Wazdom]

Have Shitty HFS's & They Are Wasting Their Money

this is what I responded to and do not agree with .. completely

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Wazdom

I'm sure if any good webmaster put their mind to it they could come up with 10 valid uses for FHS that didn't include LL.

Go ahead, give me 10.

Originally Posted by Wazdom

I personally don't list FHS at my LL and never will, no recip = no listing.

I'd hate to hear what you think about all those silly little TGPs listing all those silly little hosted galleries.

By the way, FHS = Furry Homo Sapien. HFS = Hosted Free Site.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

By the way, FHS = Furry Homo Sapien. HFS = Hosted Free Site.

Good idea, I'd use a sponsor who gave me a furry homosapien.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Please let us help you so that we can all profit from this very valuable promotional tool

I know this is going to sound spammish, but it's honestly not ment as such (I'll spam properly in due time, and even see if I have any dough left to buy advertising here)...

I've submitted freesites for a few years, but I've been keeping a big pause as I've worked on other things..however, I'm just going to ask here before I launch my free hosted sites to the public whether I'm on the right track with a few samples.. I've followed the same pattern I've done with them as I did with the sites I submitted (and got listed with).

I also red the two threads mentioned in the beginning of the thread, unfortunately not before I actually did the sites. But I think I nailed the stuff listed anyhow.

Any opinions on these?
(I will also rename the directories to match the sitename before I go live)
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/divinemelons/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/secretvoyeurs/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/sexyeyeglasses/freesite1/

[Wazdom]

Go ahead, give me 10.

I'm not going to do your work for you LOL
use your own brain

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Any opinions on these?
(I will also rename the directories to match the sitename before I go live)
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/divinemelons/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/secretvoyeurs/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/sexyeyeglasses/freesite1/

Not bashing your sites or anything but, damn I got hit with deja vu when I saw them. I must have seen your work at a sponsor somewhere but I can't remember where. |confused|

[oldbrad]

I personally like a "non professional" looking site. one that looks like a submitted site as opposed to a paysite. They are well made from a desing and appearance, but i like more text, less graphics and clearly defined ads or banners with text.

I also, presonally, like clearly defined galleries instead of thumbnail looking images linked to a gallery with no "gallery 1", etc text. I see the alt, but like something in text.

You already mentioned adding titles instead of the paysite.

These are my preferences, but you definately want the big guys opinions as they'll send the most traffic.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

Not bashing your sites or anything but, damn I got hit with deja vu when I saw them. I must have seen your work at a sponsor somewhere but I can't remember where. |confused|

You mean the freesites, or the paysites they're linked to?
..and I don't take that bashing, unless it was ment like "I've seen indetical shit around since 1998, upgrade your stuff moron"

I've submitted several of very similar sites to these over the years...
( http://list-x.com/shaved/shavedbpussy/ ) for example...

if you mean the paysites, then I have one other sponsor using very similar tours, mainly because I did them. But I haven't done any designs for 'clients' for a few years. Atleast any that are online yet. Not quite sure what you ment with your comment though..

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by oldbrad

I personally like a "non professional" looking site. one that looks like a submitted site as opposed to a paysite. They are well made from a desing and appearance, but i like more text, less graphics and clearly defined ads or banners with text.

I'll take that into account when I do the next batch of freesites sometime in the future

Originally Posted by oldbrad

I also, presonally, like clearly defined galleries instead of thumbnail looking images linked to a gallery with no "gallery 1", etc text. I see the alt, but like something in text.

Shouldn't be hard to put a text under the thumb or whatever to mark them as gallery. Will have a slave do that if I remember tomorrow (it's 3 something am now. heh)

Originally Posted by oldbrad

You already mentioned adding titles instead of the paysite.

These are my preferences, but you definately want the big guys opinions as they'll send the most traffic.

Yeah, I'll change the foldernames to match the graphic/title on the site. (and I think I ought to change the actual <title> as well).

I've been out of the freesite loop for so long that I don't even know who the big guys are above the ones that were big guys 3 years ago.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

I know this is going to sound spammish, but it's honestly not ment as such (I'll spam properly in due time, and even see if I have any dough left to buy advertising here)...

I've submitted freesites for a few years, but I've been keeping a big pause as I've worked on other things..however, I'm just going to ask here before I launch my free hosted sites to the public whether I'm on the right track with a few samples.. I've followed the same pattern I've done with them as I did with the sites I submitted (and got listed with).

I also red the two threads mentioned in the beginning of the thread, unfortunately not before I actually did the sites. But I think I nailed the stuff listed anyhow.

Any opinions on these?
(I will also rename the directories to match the sitename before I go live)
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/divinemelons/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/secretvoyeurs/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/sexyeyeglasses/freesite1/

I didn't go through them all, but two of the three links on this page are blind: http://fetishpimp.com/free/divinemel...lery1.php?ref=

Gotta let the surfer know where they are going or that they have to join something in this day and age.

[Wazdom]

Originally Posted by Preacher

I didn't go through them all, but two of the three links on this page are blind: http://fetishpimp.com/free/divinemel...lery1.php?ref=

Gotta let the surfer know where they are going or that they have to join something in this day and age.

thats a awfully tight definition of blind link .. "LADIES WHO'RE BLESSED WITH HEAVENLY BOOBS" and the surfer gets a boob site with a nice selection of thumbs for them to gawk at .. not blind in my opinion

nice work TeenGodFather .. I like your templates

[oldbrad]

alot of places consider most things a blind link unless it just says the actual address with or without the id or extension.

http://www.porn.com/amateur/whoeveraffiliate.cgi?1231
should just be http://www.porn.com/amateur/ kinda thing. just saying boobs even if it goes to a boob picture is a kind of blind link.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

....Any opinions on these?
(I will also rename the directories to match the sitename before I go live)
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/divinemelons/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/secretvoyeurs/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/sexyeyeglasses/freesite1/

They're a little heavy on the graphics side & the main & gallery pages are all the same template with different colors & backgrounds.

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

You mean the freesites, or the paysites they're linked to?

Your free site galleries look familiar. I've seen very similar at maybe, Sunny Dollars? |confused| Hell, at my age everything looks familiar, or does it? (I've had a drink or 6, ignore me)

[Useless]

You REALLY see how the same basic template structure is being re-used by looking at multiple free sites promoting the same paysite.

http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite1/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite2/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite3/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite4/
http://fetishpimp.com/free/redheaddreams/freesite5/

One of the greatest annoyances on those HOSTED FREE SITES (not free hosted sites) is the keyword stuffing of the thumbs' alt tags. It's pointless and, as I said, annoying.

One of the reasons I very rarely use HFSs is due to the fact that they quickly begin to look the same. If I can't add more than a couple of a sponsor's HFSs without seeing the same template, I simply don't bother. Some people seem to think that changing one graphic or the background color is enough to call it a new template. It's not. Think about the overall layout of the site.

[Wazdom]

ok lots of opinions ..

GG if I was to pick one issue with HFS (LOL) and HFG .. it would be really nice if sponsors provided the frame work for recip linking on these tools should be very easy from them to provide us.

[Lisa]

Uh Waz? Speaking as a sponsor...if you want freesites with recips on them...build the bloody things yourself.

[Wazdom]

Uh Lisa I built many sites for PMB .. and I remember when Bill sold it .. lost every recur within 30 days ..

[Lisa]

Bill still owns PMB, but you're getting off topic.

Sponsors are providing HFS and/or FHG for your convenience. To expect recips on top of the provision of content and site building is just ridiculous, IMHO.

I remember when to make money in this business it was required that you worked...like any business, it required an input of both cash and time to see a reward. I miss those days...

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Greenie

They're a little heavy on the graphics side & the main & gallery pages are all the same template with different colors & backgrounds.

Yes they are, and it was a conscious decicion to make them that way, both graphics and similarity. Just to save time to be honest. You wouldn't list those on your site because they're too similar in appearance?

The sites are not yet live as isn't my affiliateprogram version 2, so I still have time to shake things around. However I'd hate to just discard those sites and start from scratch, as even with the same template it took me quite a few days to make those all...

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

One of the greatest annoyances on those HOSTED FREE SITES (not free hosted sites) is the keyword stuffing of the thumbs' alt tags. It's pointless and, as I said, annoying.

Hmmm.. why? I can remove them, but I'd like to know why.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

One of the reasons I very rarely use HFSs is due to the fact that they quickly begin to look the same. If I can't add more than a couple of a sponsor's HFSs without seeing the same template, I simply don't bother. Some people seem to think that changing one graphic or the background color is enough to call it a new template. It's not. Think about the overall layout of the site.

I quite honestly thought it WAS enough. It IS enough when submitting GALLERIES.

Originally Posted by Licker4U

Your free site galleries look familiar. I've seen very similar at maybe, Sunny Dollars? Hell, at my age everything looks familiar, or does it? (I've had a drink or 6, ignore me)

Ah, woudn't know about that. I know one that I use FHG's with quite similar galleries, and one other sponsor to whom I made galleries for. But not sunnydollars, not sure if I've even seen a sunnydollars gallery..but a gallery can't get more basic than this.

<HEADER>
<thumbs>
<text>
<thumbs>
<text>
<thumbs>
<bottom>

so I'm sure there's quite a lot of galleries that looks pretty similar

[Wazdom]

Lisa I miss those days also
but these days .. from what I can see .. more investment is required to be successful .. with this comes larger demands.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Wazdom

ok lots of opinions ..

GG if I was to pick one issue with HFS (LOL) and HFG .. it would be really nice if sponsors provided the frame work for recip linking on these tools should be very easy from them to provide us.

1 - Do you want to download the HFS's, add recips & upload them to your server?
2 - Do you want to give the sponsor a bit of html coding so that it's inserted into the HFS so that when you link to it, there's a link back to you?
In either scenario, that'd be something the sponsor would have to approve or set up & like I said about the SE stuff, I'd rather concentrate on getting this large list of sponsors to correct their basic mistakes before we looked into what extra benefits could be added to HFS.

Also, what the fuck is a HFG? No one calls galleries "free galleries" It's HFS because the term that everyone uses for Free Sites is "Free Sites"

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Yes they are, and it was a conscious decicion to make them that way, both graphics and similarity. Just to save time to be honest. You wouldn't list those on your site because they're too similar in appearance?....

I might list a few, but like a lot of LL owners, I'd get tired of seeing the same template over & over & over.

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

...I quite honestly thought it WAS enough. It IS enough when submitting GALLERIES....

You're not building/submitting galleries. Throw out most of the TGP/Gallery info you have, as it does not fit in with the LinkList/FreeSite model (and oddly enough, I think that most of the sponsors on this list have this exact same problem)

[Jakke PNG]

Well, I think I'll just keep these as they are, and make new ones that have more variety and aren't out of the same mold..just gotta pay my coder to separate these 'template'-sites and the new ones I'll make in my import tool...hopefully in time for my programs re-launch.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Wazdom

it would be really nice if sponsors provided the frame work for recip linking on these tools.

Why do you want to add recips? Are you trying to submit HFS with your link code to link lists? If so I think you are heading for a few blacklists. I rarely blacklist anyone, but my TGP blacklist is almost entirely people who shove sponsors hosted galleries in a frame or Iframe, with a few recips at the top.