Metal Cash (you have to read it from bottom to top)

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

You're so clever with the 'obvious' mistake line.

If you would read into it I said if he doesn't like galleries I have actual links for him - I didn't force greenguy to look at galleries, I didn't tell him I have nothing for you but galleries, I asked if he wanted galleries, he said no so I gave him links.

It seems quite 'obvious' that I didn't do anything offensive to him before he said I was as annoying as a fucking telemarketer.

It's 'obvious' that everybody here is going to continue to side with greenguy because its 'obviously' his board.

Rediculous guys.

to continue to fall back on the 'its gg's board so everyone will side with him' argument is ludicrious and it shows the major character flaw that you exhibitied in your original conversation. You dont think you can be wrong.

If you'd stop and think about it you could and can see why greenguy got pissed off and instead of realizing it and apologizing for it you grasp for any reason to continue to believe you were right.

Our galleries rock if you dont want them you're wrong.

I called you an asshole if peole say its unfair its cause its your board.

You think you cant be wrong and its impossible to argue with someoen like that, but let me say that you certainly have little to no place in the customer service field with that kind of attitude.

the customer is always right.
you are always wrong if the customer thinks you are.
greenguy thinks you are.
piss off.

[CaptainObvious]

I've contacted over 400 affiliates in the last few days and not one of them was rude to me like greenguy. I wasn't trying to sell him something, I was telling him about a new program that others can't promote which will make him good cash. 99% of webmasters find that to be a GOOD opportunity, not a chance to tell your account rep that he's annoying like a telemarketer.

You're confused about the situation Boogie. Greenguy signed up for Metal Cash on his own, of course I'm going to contact him to try and help him make more money.

[fetish1]

And it's even more "obvious" you just cost yourself many potential affilates by coming here and being an "asshole"

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Boogie

Our galleries rock if you dont want them you're wrong.

Show me this in my conversation with greenguy.

Greenguy isn't a customer I don't have to go by "the customer is always right" rule - he's an affiliate, signed up to Metal Cash by CHOICE. Entered his contact information on ICQ BY CHOICE.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

I've contacted over 400 affiliates in the last few days and not one of them was rude to me like greenguy. I wasn't trying to sell him something, I was telling him about a new program that others can't promote which will make him good cash. 99% of webmasters find that to be a GOOD opportunity, not a chance to tell your account rep that he's annoying like a telemarketer.

You're confused about the situation Boogie. Greenguy signed up for Metal Cash on his own, of course I'm going to contact him to try and help him make more money.

I fucking assure you that greenguy doesnt need your help to make money.

again that's the "I cant do wrong" and megolomaniacal problem of yours that caused this pissing match to begin with at work.

and if you knew anything about customer service, you'd realize that if you contacted 400 other webmasters and only 1 got pissed off, you have to treat the 1 pissed off one like he's right... that's the basis of the customer service industry my friend.

you should have treated greenguy like a friend or a star and instead you treat him like he's wrong and beneath you.

asinine.

[CaptainObvious]

See above he's not a customer, he's an affiliate. Two very different things.

I fucking assure you that Metal Cash doesn't need green guys help to make money.

Originally Posted by Boogie

I fucking assure you that greenguy doesnt need your help to make money.

again that's the "I cant do wrong" and megolomaniacal problem of yours that caused this pissing match to begin with at work.

and if you knew anything about customer service, you'd realize that if you contacted 400 other webmasters and only 1 got pissed off, you have to treat the 1 pissed off one like he's right... that's the basis of the customer service industry my friend.

you should have treated greenguy like a friend or a star and instead you treat him like he's wrong and beneath you.

asinine.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Show me this in my conversation with greenguy.

Greenguy isn't a customer I don't have to go by "the customer is always right" rule - he's an affiliate, signed up to Metal Cash by CHOICE. Entered his contact information on ICQ BY CHOICE.

cant quote it, you never said it directly, but it seemed like your intent.

but, I can quote you on something else;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:54 PM
From : Captain Obvious
stay away from my scooter and we won't have any problems

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:54 PM
From : Captain Obvious
you know how to piss of a fat man? take his scooter away

For what its worth I am fat and comments like this arent helping your case.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

See above he's not a customer, he's an affiliate. Two very different things.

I fucking assure you that Metal Cash doesn't need green guys help to make money.

if you dont understand that webmasters are your customers too, your most IMPORTANT customers, then you're beyond my help honest to god.

you think fucking MICROSOFT doesnt consider DELL a customer? and dell redisturbites their product to thousands of PC's in a day, making them one of the most important customers.

if this little basic tidbit of customer service has not found purchase in your brain I find it unlikely you're in the right field.

[CaptainObvious]

Thanks boogie but I know plenty about sales and I do understand webmasters, most likely better than you do.

I know you'll find this hard to believe, but I don't care.

Originally Posted by Boogie

if you dont understand that webmasters are your customers too, your most IMPORTANT customers, then you're beyond my help honest to god.

you think fucking MICROSOFT doesnt consider DELL a customer? and dell redisturbites their product to thousands of PC's in a day, making them one of the most important customers.

if this little basic tidbit of customer service has not found purchase in your brain I find it unlikely you're in the right field.

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by Boogie

nothing wrong with what greenguy said here. no reason to call him an asshole. after the 2nd rebuttal MOST people on the recieving end start getting upset, which is why MOST states its only legal to rebutt 1 time.

Again Boogie, please read before you start posting.

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:40 PM
From : Captain Obvious
its just not fully released yet, we've done lots of testing we're just
finishing building the tools webmasters need

Sent at 10:40PM

That's before GreenGuy flipped out 4 minutes later saying;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

Personally I see something very wrong with that actually, GreenGuy flipping out on Captain instead of reading and seeing that the 123 Program isn't launched yet and Captain is infact going webmaster to webmaster giving them a chance to make cash with this.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Again Boogie, please read before you start posting.

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:40 PM
From : Captain Obvious
its just not fully released yet, we've done lots of testing we're just
finishing building the tools webmasters need

Sent at 10:40PM

That's before GreenGuy flipped out 4 minutes later saying;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

Personally I see something very wrong with that actually, GreenGuy flipping out on Captain instead of reading and seeing that the 123 Program isn't launched yet and Captain is infact going webmaster to webmaster giving them a chance to make cash with this.

well josh, that's your opinion.

and I bet that the idiot who calls my house during dinner to sell me some great money saving oppurtunity has the same fucking opinion.

but if the reciever of the call or the recieiver of the ICQ doesnt want the fucking spam bullshit taking up his time a quick apology from the rep isnt so much to be expected is it?

but instead you folks seem to think its a better idea to call him an asshole.

the guy you were just appealing to to help make you money is now the guy you're screaming at.

and then you still dont see anything wrong with that, then i'm not going to be able to convince you otherwise. have a great day but just realize that most people arent going to see it your way, or the telemarkerters way.

[Surfn]

If it were me I would pull all the metal cash links GG

[Chop Smith]

I am off to make fillers out of those wonderful tgp galleries

[Boogie]

I just signed up to metalcash because no other program in the industry will provide this kind of first class service like posting on message board that they dont need me and calling me an asshole over icq.

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Boogie

I just signed up to metalcash because no other program in the industry will provide this kind of first class service like posting on message board that they dont need me and calling me an asshole over icq.

GOOD. I'll be contacting you, don't be an asshat and we won't have any problems.

[fetish1]

Hmm, with the board member count here being: 5,928 ya think they MAY have cut their own throats with more than just GG?

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by fetish1

Hmm, with the board member count here being: 5,928 ya think they MAY have cut their own throats with more than just GG?

doubtful but thanks for your concern

[Greenguy]

Bottom line is that I was fine until he mentioned galleries & that set me off. As a Link List owner, I can not fucking stand when people try to push galleries on me.

Had he looked at my referrals, he'd have seen that they all of the sales I've generated came from link-o-rama.com & they are all listed under Pay Sites on the category pages.

So because this ass basically cold called me & did no homework, I'm the ass for getting upset?

And let's not pretend that this little ICQ marketing ploy was not just a way to get personal with your affiliates. You've done this with 400 webmasters? Really? I'm betting that's most, if not all of your affiliates. I base this on my sales rank for this Pay Period that you have posted in the stats area:
Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

Captain Obvious should have given up when I said no thanks. He should have realized that he was ignorant to my needs as a webmaster when I said that I didn't do that much with galleries.

Hell, according to CaptainObvious, he should have never sent me the 2nd ICQ, since I didn't reply to the 1st one.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

GOOD. I'll be contacting you, don't be an asshat and we won't have any problems.

the fact that you're still in this thread, still havent backed down or apologized, and still havent realized your mistakes is mind blowing to me.

its like talking to a brick wall. a brick wall with a shitty attitude.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

hey but just a few posts ago he said he doesnt need you greenguy to make money!

I cant believe these two guys are in here defending an operation that's probably pulling in less money in a month than they could make selling lemonade on the fucking corner.

[fetish1]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

doubtful but thanks for your concern

LMAO Not only have you shown that you have crap for biz sense but you have proven a tremendous amount of ignorance too if you think your attitude in this thread didn't cost you ANY possible affiliates from this board!

[Useless]

Just let me know if I need to chime in here.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Just let me know if I need to chime in here.

Nothing would please me more

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Bottom line is that I was fine until he mentioned galleries & that set me off. As a Link List owner, I can not fucking stand when people try to push galleries on me.

Had he looked at my referrals, he'd have seen that they all of the sales I've generated came from link-o-rama.com & they are all listed under Pay Sites on the category pages.

So because this ass basically cold called me & did no homework, I'm the ass for getting upset?

And let's not pretend that this little ICQ marketing ploy was not just a way to get personal with your affiliates. You've done this with 400 webmasters? Really? I'm betting that's most, if not all of your affiliates. I base this on my sales rank for this Pay Period that you have posted in the stats area:
Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

Captain Obvious should have given up when I said no thanks. He should have realized that he was ignorant to my needs as a webmaster when I said that I didn't do that much with galleries.

Hell, according to CaptainObvious, he should have never sent me the 2nd ICQ, since I didn't reply to the 1st one.

Lots of webmasters did two sales with our program, more did one, we have smaller webmasters and bigger webmasters, you're in the middle.

If you think our #1-13 affiliates do 1-2 joins a day each you're straight out wrong.

I don't understand where you guys get the "cold calls" and "telemarketing" bullshit from - I'm not trying to sell you anything, I just wanted to tell you about our new sites.

I don't care if you only have 1 site, I start off with everybody giving them galleries to see where they direct me since MOST webmasters own more than 1 site - you're the ONLY person to turn it into such a big issue.

I'm done here, I have more important things to work on, like I said in the ICQ, don't list the 123 sites on greenguy, I don't give a fuck.

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

That's before GreenGuy flipped out 4 minutes later saying;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

Personally I see something very wrong with that actually, GreenGuy flipping out on Captain instead of reading and seeing that the 123 Program isn't launched yet and Captain is infact going webmaster to webmaster giving them a chance to make cash with this.

The PROBLEM is your rep's response to that was "don't be an asshole"

THAT is the problem I have. Right away your rep is calling a valued affiliate (all affiliates are valuable IMO) an asshole. Don't you think there's a problem with that??????????????

If Greenguy said hey you're an asshole for contacting me, fuck off Captain still should just say sorry you feel that way. Good bye. Calling affiliates an asshole should NEVER EVER be an okay thing to do.