If you could build your own link list, what would you want?

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by Jim

And...the graphic and html design is done. So, as soon as Sparky is done, we are ready for business. Of course, it looks beautiful Now the features are being added to the admin.

hahaha LOL see Jim - as I told:

think a good design is the most important thing

http://www.******.com/
http://www.link-o-rama.com/

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Jim

I have no idea why I started this in Chit Chat but I am going to move it to the main forum. There is no spam and it is nothing but business. I will leave a redirect up.

One would think that it belongs here (even I post my LOR announcements there)

[Fido]

I made myself a program, which allows me to control site reviewing for my LL by voice commands. It is a BIG time saver.

[Verbal]

What's up guys?

I think this is a *great* plan, Jim & Sparky. I am very much in the market for a new LL script. I coded my own several years ago that I still use, but I just don't have the time these days to add all the new features I'd like. It would be great to have you guys develop one, based on the input of everyone here that'll actually use the script. All the other scripts available seem to lack in some crucial areas, so I've been pushing off buying one. The best would be a combination of xpowerlinks, link admin and links sql.

Suggestions/Wish List:

- Partner Accounts! (with an option to turn this feature on/off and also still allow/disallow free submissions too at the same time. Also, different types of Partners - to let the one's you trust most be approved instantly w/o review, etc.)

- Partner Control Panel! (a backend where partners could login and see all the sites they've listed, what's in the review queue, reviewer's comments, how many hits their sites have received, any advertising campaigns they've purchased. Also, it would be cool if partners could queue up to X sites at a time so they don't have to submit sites every damn day.)

- Reviewer Control Panel! (allow for multiple reviewers to be able to have their own accounts, that have stats about how many sites they've reviewed and in what categories, etc. Their own review queues, so like Reviewer X can choose only to review certain categories. Or a way to divide the master queue up evenly amongst reviewers. This will also help the site owner keep tabs on his reviewers.)

- Template based front end! (where you upload your website template w/ tags where all the links and categories should appear. The script could then generate your pages on the fly, or write them out daily/hourly with cron to an include file. Should be very SE friendly and crawlable. Maybe have options for each page to specify page titles, keywords, etc.)

- Multiple link list management! (Imagine running 10 linklists through this one script. This should be as easy as adding an extra MySQL field to specify which linklist the site belongs too, or if the site belongs to multiple linklist. Submitters/Partners could then submit once and be listed on several sites. Reviewers could manage everything from one admin area.)

I have tons of other ideas.. but, I'll stop for now.

Also.. Agree w/ others on other stuff:
HFS importer, better link-checker, improved blacklist, advanced search

Agree w/ Greenguy, you don't need a traffic trade script.. the site owner can use any of the existing ones, by putting that code into their site template.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

But Link Lists link to Free Sites, which are usually 4 pages, so you'd need to have the script spider the pages on the site & check the sizes for all of the pages.

Well, why can't this be done? Have the bot spider each page, then add up the total size of the entire freesite and add up the total number of links for the freesite. Store these values to check against when the bot comes back later.

Don't listen to GG, Jim. if you guys get this going I'll be one of your first customers. Now get coding already!

[swedguy]

You can also cut down on the review time a lot by incorporating http://www.getid3.org/

[Linkster]

Adding to the list:

A built in ad rotator - similar to the rotating HFS's listings - so that we dont have to use external programs

The ability to build an html (detailed info and reviews if wanted) page for each free or pay site listed from a template in addition to its regular link listing in a category and have a small link next to the regular listing for "details" - and straight static html listing - no redirecting/302/cgi etc. make it easy for the bots to follow

[SortLinks]

good 404 bad link checker in front of new 2257 regulations So you could check who was scared and deleted his free site

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Well, why can't this be done? Have the bot spider each page, then add up the total size of the entire freesite and add up the total number of links for the freesite. Store these values to check against when the bot comes back later.

Re-read my entire post my friend

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Re-read my entire post my friend

Ah, I just re-read it and noticed I've totally overlooked your point (and a good one). So I have to agree with you, the freesite link-checker would certainly be a bitch to code without some sort of crazy limits on where it goes and stores. I would sure hate to code this thing.

Now I'm interested in how Swedguy has implemented this so that it works so well.

[PR_Tom]

Make sure the "link check bot" crawls the entire free site. Maybe take a CRC sum (or whatever) of the entire free site, that way ANY change should show and you can dig deeper.

[PR_Tom]

Hmm ok so I skipped ahead then went back and read more..
Maybe lay down the law and require 4 pages. index, main , gal1, gal2. Period.

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Now I'm interested in how Swedguy has implemented this so that it works so well.

It's not that hard actually.

Go to the index page and fetch all links, keep all links that are 1 dir deep (works on 99% of all sites). I'll fine tune that part when I get some time over. It should be dynamic depending on how many dirs deep the original site is.

Now we have a bunch of links that the script thinks are main page links. Fetch all links on the "main" page and keep the ones that are 1 dir deep. Go to the links and see if it has links to images, if it doesn't, discard it, it's not a gallery. If it does, keep it.

Now we have an index, main, gallery and images trail that we can do whatever we want to do with

There are some other filters. But that's the basics of it.

[swedguy]

And it doesn't work to save the size of the html pages. There's way too many who have rotating banners

There are other ways that I think are better and still letting the webmaster be a lil creative

[Verbal]

Cool, thanks for sharing, Swedguy. It was that "1 dir deep" thing I wasn't sure about, but yeah for the most part that seems to be how most freesites are laid out. (I have seen many that jump up a directory too from the index page, for example).

[Jim]

Well, I have been told by Sparky that everything mentioned here can be done and most of it is already working. When I open, it will all be working.

[Mishi]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I have tons of other ideas.. but, I'll stop for now.

Don't stop, baby!

DragonList v.2.3 has a lot of the features you mentioned. V.3.0 will be a complete overhaul, and the more input I can get (directly or indirectly, bwahahaha) the better.

[Verbal]

Hi Mishi, checking out your script now (looks impressive!).

Couple other ideas:

Sponsors Table:
Basically a table containing each sponsor's name, url and a text box for notes.

Sponsor Sites Table:
A table storing paysite name, paysite affiliate url, pretty/fake url (to be shown to surfers on mouseover for example), # clicks sent to that site (by day,month,year), which category(s) it belongs to and which sponsor it belongs to.

Better Mass-Site Editing Controls:
You know how hotmail has a check box next to each email and one at the top that lets you check all the boxes? A LL script could use this feature too. You could then pull up say Teen sites or Bob's sites, click the check button to check all of them off, and either edit, delete, de-activate, approve, blacklist or even move them all to a different category. With one click.

Option to turn on/off click tracking: Not everyone needs it, and hard-links seem to be the way to go anyways.

Easy Way to Mass Review:
Right now all these scripts require you to click on "Edit" to make changes approve/ban the site. That's OK, but it means you have to do this one-by-one for every site. What would be very cool, is to turn on a feature that let's you edit say 1-X number of sites on a page. Or when you show all sites in your queue, have all the fields already editable, and a "Save" button at the bottom.

Better Database Backup, Import/Export Tools: should have at least some simple tools to backup or at least let you download your database from the admin. Also, stuff like Exporting all your Partners email addresses to a file, for example.


So, you guys are gonna give me a nice discount for all these ideas, right?

[Xeno]

lol....Jim....watch out for ideas that might get others to opt in and use them...then you wouldn't have anything unique ...hehe.

I would personally say make it your own ideas and features that will give it appeal and make it a signature of who you are If we made our sites like everyone elses, it would be too boring...

[SI]

someone already said about thumb feature? I mean feature that can build thumb-LL. IMHO thumb-LL will help for bookmarkers increase

[Thumbler]

I would have thought thumbs are the last thing you'd want unless you want to get involved in 2257 documentation

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Thumbler

I would have thought thumbs are the last thing you'd want unless you want to get involved in 2257 documentation

I would enjoy thumbs without documentation. But, I don't really like the thumb idea that much.

[Mishi]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Hi Mishi, checking out your script now (looks impressive!).

Thanks! (back)

Originally Posted by Verbal

Couple other ideas:

Sponsors Table:
Basically a table containing each sponsor's name, url and a text box for notes.

Sponsor Sites Table:
A table storing paysite name, paysite affiliate url, pretty/fake url (to be shown to surfers on mouseover for example)

Have that!

Originally Posted by Verbal

# clicks sent to that site (by day,month,year), which category(s) it belongs to and which sponsor it belongs to.

DL has overall stats from the begining of time. That is my most loved feature and most hated implementation. Will be seriously overhauling this part.

Originally Posted by Verbal

Better Mass-Site Editing Controls:
You know how hotmail has a check box next to each email and one at the top that lets you check all the boxes? A LL script could use this feature too. You could then pull up say Teen sites or Bob's sites, click the check button to check all of them off, and either edit, delete, de-activate, approve, blacklist or even move them all to a different category. With one click.

Sort of have this...there are a lot of filtering capabilities.

Originally Posted by Verbal

Option to turn on/off click tracking: Not everyone needs it, and hard-links seem to be the way to go anyways.

Agreed. Static pages do appear to be the way to go. I so wish there was a way to "split" a link so it could go two places, lol.

Originally Posted by Verbal

Easy Way to Mass Review:
Right now all these scripts require you to click on "Edit" to make changes approve/ban the site. That's OK, but it means you have to do this one-by-one for every site. What would be very cool, is to turn on a feature that let's you edit say 1-X number of sites on a page. Or when you show all sites in your queue, have all the fields already editable, and a "Save" button at the bottom.

I think my brain just exploded.

Originally Posted by Verbal

Better Database Backup, Import/Export Tools: should have at least some simple tools to backup or at least let you download your database from the admin. Also, stuff like Exporting all your Partners email addresses to a file, for example.

Agreed. I've not bothered with a lot of this sort of thing, because I didn't want to re-write PHPMyAdmin. But the deeper I get into things, the more I realize the need.

Originally Posted by Verbal

So, you guys are gonna give me a nice discount for all these ideas, right?

How's about tree-fiddy and a ham sammich?

[Jim]

Update..Sparky tells me that we will be opening early next week. Opening with all the cool features mentioned here.

[Greenguy]

Open as in surfers looking at things or open as in taking submits?

Surfers tend to get pissed if there's 30 categories & 50 total links