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Old 2007-07-05, 07:31 AM   #1
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Detect rel="nofollow" Link Lists, Free Tool

Free tool for easy detection of Link Lists that use rel="nofollow" tags for listed free sites or list them through scripts to prevent free site from getting PageRank or backlinks...

Use it freely and spread the word
http://www.rank1porn.com/rip-off-link-lists.html
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Old 2007-07-05, 09:35 AM   #2
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I checked out your "rip-off list" and checked out a site you claimed was no following links - as far as I tell the links were ok and did not have the nofollow tag as you claim.

How sure are you of your facts?
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Old 2007-07-05, 09:46 AM   #3
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hey Mr Spock i'm pretty sure since i made list in last 2 days, personally checking each of them.
btw don't get confused, not all of the sites there are with nofollow/script linking "problem", table is made of 2 parts, second part lists LLs who have 3 links in their recip etc... there's line that explains why each site is on my list, but who knows, maybe some LL owner saw my threads and removed nofollow tag which would make me very happy
and one more thing - i made this tool for my link list and to help me when i'm checking out submitted free sites you can always customize list of sites that will be checked by editing javascript file
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Old 2007-07-05, 09:56 AM   #4
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Free tool for easy detection of Link Lists that use rel="nofollow" tags for listed free sites or list them through scripts to prevent free site from getting PageRank or backlinks...

Use it freely and spread the word
http://www.rank1porn.com/rip-off-link-lists.html
ummm, excuse me but my link list LiquiSeXXX.com does not, has not and never did use a nofollow for submitted links. I cannot even add it to the script to do this. Please get your facts straight and REMOVE ME from your little witch hunt list. I do not appreciate being labelled a cheater.

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Old 2007-07-05, 10:06 AM   #5
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LiquiSeXXX.com removed, i'm deeply sorry for that thanks for letting me know i made mistake
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LiquiSeXXX.com removed, i'm deeply sorry for that thanks for letting me know i made mistake
thank you for the prompt removal, I just hope no one else is on that list that doesn't deserve to be.
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Old 2007-07-05, 10:18 AM   #7
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i'm 99% sure, but double checking it as we speak
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Old 2007-07-05, 11:07 AM   #8
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Well thanks a lot for listing BOTH of my link lists as "Rip off link lists"! Those who know me know that's not true. I'm not a techie so I can't help the way my scripts list free sites and never knew there was a problem with them. Thanks.

By the way, I see a lot of LL's of people who post here on that list.
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Old 2007-07-05, 11:31 AM   #9
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2 problems with your detect script - first - there are a huge amount of LLs that use the script that links out through a cgi jump - which is perfectly normal and the SEs do follow those links - at least they have for the last 4 years that I remember

Second - you are also detecting scripted links for people using a dual linking system where the free sites is listed with the real url and also listed as a detailed page for each free site - which I believe ladydesigner and quite a few others use for their LL script and also works perfectly well with SEs
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Old 2007-07-05, 12:00 PM   #10
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hi ladydesigner, what other can i say then i'm sorry but it's nothing personal... i'm not tech expert either and there are always options to pay to someone to do the job we can't do...

Hi Linkster, i highly respect you and your opinion, i have few questions since i'm not expert in everything

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there are a huge amount of LLs that use the script that links out through a cgi jump - which is perfectly normal and the SEs do follow those links
do you mean by this that search engine spider can track cgi generated url and "see what's on the other side" and count that url as clean hard coded back link for free site?

and one more question
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you are also detecting scripted links for people using a dual linking system where the free sites is listed with the real url and also listed as a detailed page for each free site
i visited both ladydesigner's LLs after reading your post and then went to Google and yes i see google lists "details pages" from her site... and that's nice, she's getting more pages on her site, every one of them with nice keyword rich title but that's good for her, not for submitter since i see link to listed free site is coded on details page same as it is in category page...
which brings me back to my 1st question - if SEs can count cgi urls as hard backlinks then it's all ok, i will remove LLs from list thata re using this way of linking asap

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Old 2007-07-05, 12:17 PM   #11
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do you mean by this that search engine spider can track cgi generated url and "see what's on the other side" and count that url as clean hard coded back link for free site?
Yes they can and sometimes they even list the actual jump link in the serps. I have a real good listing like that right now.
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kide83, I'd like to ask that you remove my LL's from your page. Just because you don't like the way my scripts list free sites doesn't mean I'm cheating anyone. I have a real issue with the way you've labeled my sites "Rip Off Link Lists". Again, if you don't like the way I run my sites, simply don't submit to me.
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I'm watching this thread and waiting to see how it develops. I can assure you, I'll have a more formulated reply this evening. Names will be called... Insults will be hurled.... A single link list's recips will most likely be blacklisted...
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Old 2007-07-05, 01:02 PM   #14
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kide83, I checked out Click4SexFun and as far as I can tell all links to submitted sites go straight to the feesite. I hover my mouse over the link and see the URL, not some script code. What's your problem with that???

Also the details link is an internal page that should be of no concern to you, other than that you as a submitter get 2 links for the price of one.

You say you're not an expert. Maybe you should put off this project until you know what you're doing. I can see a whole lot of shit coming your way from this.
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Old 2007-07-05, 01:13 PM   #15
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kide83 - do yourself a favor: pull that page & keep your theories to yourself.
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Old 2007-07-05, 01:34 PM   #16
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Yes they can and sometimes they even list the actual jump link in the serps. I have a real good listing like that right now.
you're mixing 2 things:

1. web page like www.domain.com/index.cgi?id=11111
- can be indexed by SEs and it can get rank in SERPs like every other page

2. masking listed free site's url from www.domain.com/fs/title/index.html to www.domain.com/index.cgi?id=11111 will never give SEO benefit to that free site...
placing that link (www.domain.com/index.cgi?id=11111) at details.html, at domain root or inside sitemap.xml page won't also give free site valid backlink... it's not problem with where the link is placed on site but in it's structure
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Old 2007-07-05, 01:43 PM   #17
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ok page is 404 atm, i'd like to get answer for this please

if i go to Google and type "link:www.domain.com"
will i ever get dynamic url in results (like http://www.domain.com/index.cgi?id=11111) linking to that site unless there's a hard coded link to www.domain.com on it?
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Old 2007-07-05, 02:29 PM   #18
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First off - if you use the link: command on google you are only seeing a small sampling of what Google knows about a site - its not a reliable tool

To answer your questions and to use ladydesigners site as an example - she has both a hardcoded link (not cgi-jump) to the free sites (if you need to check this just go to any category listing and look at the url for any free site listed there) as well as the detailed jump for each free site listed - which if you look at the detailed page it also has a straight hardcoded link to the free site. This means that getting listed on her site you get twice as many links to your free site as a normal LL

As far as the cgi-jump links - Google has been able to index those for years and does push PR through those links easily - and yes the way the script works google actually gets the hardcoded link behind the cgi so again its a great way to run a script - as good as having a hardcoded link on the category page

Now I do have to agree with you on the LLs that are using the double LL recips although that is all the same person and he has been a problem since he first showed up - I dont believe any of his LLs actually take any submissions anymore??
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Old 2007-07-05, 02:56 PM   #19
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ok Linkster, thanks for answer i think this is over, i'm sorry for making all waves in water... i will return that page but with new name and LLs running on cgi scripts will be removed from it, however as you said i'll leave double recip and multi url recip LLs there...
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