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Old 2007-06-28, 08:32 AM   #1
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Chameleon LL submitter, is your LL on the list?

http://www.chameleonsubmitter.com/llsitelist.php

None of mine is, thank for partner accounts and other stuff
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Old 2007-06-28, 08:43 AM   #2
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Both of mine are listed along with others from this board that I recognized. Is this a bad thing Fonz? I didn't stick around long enough to read about why/how my sites got on that list!
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Old 2007-06-28, 08:54 AM   #3
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You probably will get flooded with a bunch of non-rule following sites...
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:18 AM   #4
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There's a lot of familiar Link Lists on there - I looked around their site & can't seem to find a way to remove the sites of mine that are on there. (I did ICQ them, so I'll post when they reply)

But it is odd how they have 300+ Link Lists on there right off the bat, but if you wanted to add yourself, there's 19 very specific rules that you have to follow:
http://www.chameleonsubmitter.com/suggest.php
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:23 AM   #5
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You probably will get flooded with a bunch of non-rule following sites...

Well that's just wonderful!
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:23 AM   #6
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I also asked g-color to stop by this thread & let people know how they can be removed if this wish.
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:27 AM   #7
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Earl is on there. It's partner only and the backlog is currently at January, so poo on them. Hell, I don't mind if a bunch of idiots want to add one way links to me.
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:31 AM   #8
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I just got done "discussing being in their database" with them on icq, and......

"...your sites will be removed from our database within next 6h"
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:37 AM   #9
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Looks like its set up just like their TGP/MGP submitter so that you can define the rules for each LL - and do manual submits if required by the LL - seems like a handy tool for those that do a lot of submitting - but as mentioned will get abused just like all other tools

Looks like it also has partner account capability similar to the TGP submitter so should be good for partners - wondering if they are going to add the LLs to their partner requester - that will generate some BS as most of us have a very specific way of requesting partner requests that wouldnt be met by their tool

Other than that its definitely a big step forward from the others that are out there that create spam submits
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:40 AM   #10
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But it is odd how they have 300+ Link Lists on there right off the bat, but if you wanted to add yourself, there's 19 very specific rules that you have to follow:
http://www.chameleonsubmitter.com/suggest.php
Unfortunately those rules are just for suggesting a TGP/MGP - it would be interesting to see what requirements they put on LLs with the majority of them using site specific category recips
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Old 2007-06-28, 09:46 AM   #11
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I think they'd have saved themselves a lot of time if they had come here & asked who wanted to be included & who didn't.

Hell, they spam their announcements enough
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Old 2007-06-28, 10:26 AM   #12
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I don't understand why you make panic. It is a brand new software and you have not recieved a single submission from it yet. I see it as a good opportunity for small and middle sized link lists to get additional submits. Not all free site submiters are cheaters and want to scam you. I have been using fucking roboform to sumit my free sites until now, but I WILL buy this software to improve my submits. So what about to give it a chance instead of bitching how evil this software is?
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Old 2007-06-28, 10:32 AM   #13
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I don't understand why you make panic. It is a brand new software and you have not recieved a single submission from it yet. I see it as a good opportunity for small and middle sized link lists to get additional submits. Not all free site submiters are cheaters and want to scam you. I have been using fucking roboform to sumit my free sites until now, but I WILL buy this software to improve my submits. So what about to give it a chance instead of bitching how evil this software is?
Do you own a Link List???? My guess is not and have no clue about the abuse factor
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Old 2007-06-28, 10:44 AM   #14
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I don't have LL, but I have few TGPs ... and I am getting tons of daily submits which are shitty and full of trojans. Cheaters will always find their ways or develop their own systems how to submit in seconds with or without chameleon. I am writing as a honest submitter who found best LL submit software which is available. First thing I will do is customize their DB (I did the same with chameleon and now I am getting 500k uniques daily) and submit to ALL link lists in MANUAL MODE. So please ... try to understand that not everybody wants to misuse this software!
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Old 2007-06-28, 11:01 AM   #15
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jajo - I dont think anyone is panicking - there are already at least 6 linklist auto-submitters out there that Im aware of - and I dont think this one is any problem whatsoever - as long as the submitters do what they are supposed to do and use it as a good tool (which it is)
You will always have the idiots that just run a program without configuring it - and those people are easy enough to ban
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Old 2007-06-28, 11:07 AM   #16
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I don't have LL, but I have few TGPs ... and I am getting tons of daily submits which are shitty and full of trojans. Cheaters will always find their ways or develop their own systems how to submit in seconds with or without chameleon. I am writing as a honest submitter who found best LL submit software which is available. First thing I will do is customize their DB (I did the same with chameleon and now I am getting 500k uniques daily) and submit to ALL link lists in MANUAL MODE. So please ... try to understand that not everybody wants to misuse this software!
Agreed, but most LL owners don't want to be on a list that any idiot can just use to throw their shitty sites at. If you customize your database I assume you can add new LL's to it like the ones that don't want to be on the standard list because all the multisubmitters, cheaters and what not have access to it.
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Old 2007-06-28, 11:12 AM   #17
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i see 2 of my old linksites there and i see stuveltjes porn, it sucks to be on a list somewhere without you gave permission yourself, but then i reject 85% what is submitted at stuveltjes porn and i only have to look at the submitters name or email
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Old 2007-06-28, 11:14 AM   #18
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I agree with you Linkster and Fonz. It is good to make it hard for scammers to submit their shitty sites to your LLs, but it is also important to mention that it is a matter of few minutes for them to add your sites to DB again even chameleon admins delete it. I have seen few autosubmitters and none of them is so advanced as chameleon. And something to add ... all "old school" cheaters have already developed their systems so they do not need this new tool
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Old 2007-06-28, 11:25 AM   #19
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Old 2007-06-28, 12:31 PM   #20
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well, my LL is on there, I'm not sure if that's bad or good

ever since the sven fiasco, after I banned ooooh about 300 or so domains , I haven't had too many problems. I guess I'll see what comes in before asking to be taken off. Doesn't much matter to me how you submit, if you don't follow the rules you don't get listed, simple as that.
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Old 2007-06-28, 12:55 PM   #21
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i reject 85% what is submitted at stuveltjes porn and i only have to look at the submitters name or email
Same here Stu!
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Old 2007-06-28, 12:57 PM   #22
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mine's on there and am not worried about it
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Old 2007-06-28, 03:38 PM   #23
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I love the smell of Partner Accounts in the morning
maybe partner accounds are better, well i still like to torture myself looking at my daily submits and think........"oh My" ...naa without joking, i dont want partner accounds, i review ones in awhile for a linksite with partner accounds, even with that the submits can suck huge,and for real i dont see a difference, partner or not, in both ways the submits of the same person can be bad, i just like to get up at 5.30 start reviewing and "reject and reject"
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Old 2007-06-28, 03:47 PM   #24
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I don't understand why you make panic...
I've seen panic around here before & this is NOT it

But we all know there are people that post here that will not want to be included in there - myself included. And since it's new & since no one can find a way to remove themselves from the list, hopefully this thread will get their attention & they can solve this problem.
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Old 2007-06-28, 05:10 PM   #25
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oh fucking goddam shit, i didnt look good, i just see analbitch is added, well fuck that, i just blacklisted a huge bunch of bad submitters and i am not realy waiting to close the submit page again to blacklist all, but if needed i will do it again, no mercy from my side
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