No More Greenguy & Jim Poker...Here's Why

[Jim]

Surfn
I already told them to take their offer and reverse it and we would be happy to continue to send traffic

[Kre8t0r]

Hello Greenguy & Jim

If you guys figure out a way to have these poker tournaments please let me know. I am also a bit PISSED as they didn't even have the common courtesy to send me an email.. I was talking to Pat who runs/makes announcements for choice/APT on ICQ last night and he didn't mention a thing to me besides the people would need to switch software.. I go and post this on my board and finally TODAY the day of our tourney he posts to that thread with the "Oprano poker has stopped offering a free poker tournaments " line... Needless to say I am a tad upset!! |pissleft|

Hmmmm Maybe GG&J vs ANS no holds barred Texas Hold'em!! I think it has a good ring

|rasta|

[Carrie]

Just a couple of notes for you guys...
1. Choice Poker has *always* had an affiliate program. I've been signed up to it since the middle of January.
2. The new APT room also has an affiliate program. It was available to sign up with as soon as the newly skinned software was available for download.
3. MasterP is NOT choice poker, he simply works with them the same way one of you would work closely with another poker site to set up new GG&J games.

Not taking sides, just want to clear a couple of things up that it seems you guys haven't been told about.

If you haven't already, you might want to talk to Dean at PheonicianCasino. They're new and would probably be willing to work with you, Dean has thrown in quite a bit of real money credits for a few of the poker games that were being held before the switch to APT. You won't find many real money games there yet though as they're new.

[Jim]

Not to worry guys...I am on a quest for today We have several options and are just deciding which to choose.

Kre8t0r
We will be playing very soon. I will let you know.

[tiny]

Typical INTERNET,some ones always gotten try and put one over on ya.
No wonder people don't wanna spend money only to get ripped off later. Yeah we'll tease ya alil and then when your not looking reach in your pocket.

[pornstar2pac]

So it's 10am here, just woke up ready to start my day and I read green & Jim's newsletter, which I enjoy reading every issue. Jim please let your readers know that it was NOT Choice Poker that decided to charge. It was Adult Poker Tour that is charging. Where in the hell does it say once that Choice Poker is charging?

[pornstar2pac]

With that $65 a tourney fee includes your top 10 players each week in tournaments we do where we have over $1,000 in prizes. And at the end of each month we have our Point standings leaders poker tournament, meaning if you didn't gripe about the $65 a tourney fee then your top 25 poker players would be playing for a prizes that is already at $9,000 from our wonderful sponsors. I expect it will be over$15,000 by March 29th, that's is the day of the tournament.









Your very first post said you had 40 people here that were not members. We'll excuse me for trying to show people a cool board. 30 people guess the password the first week. That fucking means 30 people known who Greenguy & Jim is.










|afro|

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by Carrie
Just a couple of notes for you guys...
1. Choice Poker has *always* had an affiliate program. I've been signed up to it since the middle of January.
2. The new APT room also has an affiliate program. It was available to sign up with as soon as the newly skinned software was available for download.
3. MasterP is NOT choice poker, he simply works with them the same way one of you would work closely with another poker site to set up new GG&J games.

Not taking sides, just want to clear a couple of things up that it seems you guys haven't been told about.

If you haven't already, you might want to talk to Dean at PheonicianCasino. They're new and would probably be willing to work with you, Dean has thrown in quite a bit of real money credits for a few of the poker games that were being held before the switch to APT. You won't find many real money games there yet though as they're new.

Carrie, Dean was nice enough to give $250 in casino cash to our winner Monday, which was held at the spacious Adult Poker Tour poker room. in which the top 10 poker players of the week from Green and Jim could maybe have won. We dont what none of your members saying WOW I won $250! we don't want none of that around here.

[pornstar2pac]

BTW in April we will have a logo of the board the poker tournament is at. so I would have green guy and jim logo, at a poker room where there are no sharks around, hell theres NOBODY around. Now your going to go to let's say Pacific Poker. Your members are going to love the free roll and I bet you 15 of them will deposit money there. well guess what, they are going to get taken by some of the best poker players in the world.




You guys knows theres 100's of poker players at Party Poker every night just waiting to take money away from the beginner poker player. that's were your sending your fine board members too. WE are bringing our industry closer and networking and you don't want knowing of it. Send me an email if you want to talk shit.

[Jim]

I will let everyone know that it was not choicepoker that is now charging.

So pornstar2pac, I assume that you do not agree that "we" should be paid for sending the poker site our traffic?

[Pornopat]

Greenguy and Jim I completely agree.
For poker I was the spokesperson on newbiewebmasters.com and I feel tricked as well.
They were allready making money from the people playing with real money.
They became greedy and overplayed their hand.
The bluff was called...|rasta|

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by Jim
I will let everyone know that it was not choicepoker that is now charging.

So pornstar2pac, I assume that you do not agree that "we" should be paid for sending the poker site our traffic?

we have a program that will give you 20% rake back on all your members that play at real money tables.



and yes any new members you sign up , I would check out their affiliate program and sign up for it. Si I'm expecting your going out to see WHERE you can make the most $$$ of your members.

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by Pornopat
Greenguy and Jim I completely agree.
For poker I was the spokesperson on newbiewebmasters.com and I feel tricked as well.
They were allready making money from the people playing with real money.
They became greedy and overplayed their hand.
The bluff was called...|rasta|

No we were not making money. I will show you my affilate account. I made $43 in 7 weeks from real money players . I'm not into this for the real money poker table side. I'm in it so sponsors and boards have another tool for their marketing purposes. that's where I make my money. you think Party Poker is going to put a greenguy and jim logo on the poker table so EVERY one there can see, even the players not in tournaments....no









we are

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by Pornopat
Greenguy and Jim I completely agree.
For poker I was the spokesperson on newbiewebmasters.com and I feel tricked as well.
They were allready making money from the people playing with real money.
They became greedy and overplayed their hand.
The bluff was called...|rasta|

Going around to 13 boards everyday for 7 weeks didn't make us any money. They are so many poker rooms out there, you guys have a choice. I'm making one for the Adult Industry. I never once at any boards say go play there and deposit money. Never once did I promote any real money tournaments or real money ring games.

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by Kre8t0r
Hello Greenguy & Jim

If you guys figure out a way to have these poker tournaments please let me know. I am also a bit PISSED as they didn't even have the common courtesy to send me an email.. I was talking to Pat who runs/makes announcements for choice/APT on ICQ last night and he didn't mention a thing to me besides the people would need to switch software.. I go and post this on my board and finally TODAY the day of our tourney he posts to that thread with the "Oprano poker has stopped offering a free poker tournaments " line... Needless to say I am a tad upset!! |pissleft|

Hmmmm Maybe GG&J vs ANS no holds barred Texas Hold'em!! I think it has a good ring

|rasta|

If you ever go to the poker board and read some posts. You could see the change was coming a week and a half from when it did. That's where 9 of 13 boards get their information on the poker games. The other 4, I don't know

[Jim]

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
we have a program that will give you 20% rake back on all your members that play at real money tables.



and yes any new members you sign up , I would check out their affiliate program and sign up for it. Si I'm expecting your going out to see WHERE you can make the most $$$ of your members.

No, we just want to play poker. We don't want any prizes donated...all we want are the tables, cards and chips. Just the way it started out. My point about making money from our traffic is not that we want any money from it...we just don't want to pay someone to take it.

[Greenguy]

Oh man - I do love the spin put on all of this.

1 - It was announced to everyone on March 3rd - http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...T&f=14&t=9878& - that you had to go sign up to ATP. The referral program was NOT in place at that time & I'm sure a number of people from various boards got their new accounts without going thru any referral program.

2 - The $65/tournament option is only if you take the $2000/month option & have a tournament each & every day. We are not looking to do that, so we'd have to take the $1000 option which would give us 4 tournaments a month at $250 each (yes, some month there will be 5 Tuesday's so it'd only be $200 - yippee)

3 - You came to us to spam your poker tournament - no one asked you to post this thread - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=3869 - on Jan. 14. So please drop the sob story about how you go around to all these boards & draw attention to this & that & the other thing because YOUR REFERRAL CODE IS ON ALL THESE POSTS!

4 - My 1st reply to the email you sent out about the costs for the tournaments was "You're nuts" Jim took the sensible approach & sent you the following:
"Pat
I just have to weigh in here. Every poker program I have seen in this business, pays for traffic. Yours is the first I have seen that asks to be paid for our traffic. I have spoken to several of our tournament players and several of them play with "real" money. All other poker programs pays the referrer a percentage of that. Yours is basically doing just the reverse.
We started doing the poker tournament just for fun. We understood that you were making money from the "real" money players. We gave away a small prize just for the hell of it. If you would like to continue to have GreenguyandJim traffic. Take your options below and pretend we are you and you are us. We will never pay anyone for us to send them traffic.
Jim"

To this, you replied:
"I completly understand. I didn't even want to send you that below. you can see why I wanted to. thanks Jim for your comments.
Pat"

So please drop this whole "I'm shocked" thing you have going on.

5 - We have another poker site that will be setting us up so that we can have a free weekly tournament, which is all we want & they are willing to work with us on many things. They are also not going to charge us, but exactly the opposite - they will be paying us based on referral codes. I could really care less if we make a dime off of this, but it'll be a cold day in hell when we fucking give you a dime for something we can get for free.

[Surfn]

I have to agree with GreenGuy and Jim. This is ass backwards. Why would they want to pay someone for something that they were invited to participate in for free?

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
So it's 10am here, just woke up ready to start my day and I read green & Jim's newsletter, which I enjoy reading every issue. Jim please let your readers know that it was NOT Choice Poker that decided to charge. It was Adult Poker Tour that is charging. Where in the hell does it say once that Choice Poker is charging?

Yes, we should have said that Adult Poker Tour, which uses the Choice Poker software & poker rooms, is now wanting to charge outrageous prices for the tournaments.

[Carrie]

Originally posted by Surfn
I have to agree with GreenGuy and Jim. This is ass backwards. Why would they want to pay someone for something that they were invited to participate in for free?

There are thousands of drug dealers across the country who don't care "why", they just count the money.

[Carrie]

Originally posted by Greenguy
1 - It was announced to everyone on March 3rd - http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...T&f=14&t=9878& - that you had to go sign up to ATP. The referral program was NOT in place at that time & I'm sure a number of people from various boards got their new accounts without going thru any referral program.

There was a referral program in place March 1st and I signed up for it on that date. I have a post on another board dated March 1st announcing that the new software was available which you can see here.

[Surfn]

Originally posted by Carrie
There are thousands of drug dealers across the country who don't care "why", they just count the money.

Are you a drug dealer? I'm certainly not one.

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by Carrie
There was a referral program in place March 1st and I signed up for it on that date. I have a post on another board dated March 1st announcing that the new software was available which you can see here.

It's funny how on March 5th APTour posted on Oprano:
"You'll be able to sign up at http://www.AdultPokerTour.com/Affiliates/ , but like Pat said, it will still be a day or two before we're 100% ready."

To me, that means that the affiliate program was NOT ready like I stated above.

Or it means that Oprano is full of lies

[Carrie]

When I first signed up he told me it wouldn't be ready until "tomorrow" (this was the 29th) - see the bottom of the thread here. I waited a few hours and the download was working through the new url.
I'm not going to accuse anyone of lying, I realize that things come up, especially with software and new releases of anything.
I'm surprised you'd say such a thing, even jokingly.

[Ramster]

Carrie, Greenguy has a good relationship with Oprano and Serge. People need to lighten up a bit.