New 2257 Problems

[mrMagoo]

Just when you thought it was safe to go in the water again.

http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...ticle&sid=9763

What next?

[Surfn]

That's an interview with an attorney. The main agenda of most attorney's is greed. Scare tactics mean great revenue.

[mrMagoo]

Here is a link to the bill

http://www.theorator.com/bills109/hr3726.html

Some things of interest are some of the changes to 2257 such as:

(7) in subsection (h)(3), by striking `to produce, manufacture, or publish any book, magazine, periodical, film, video tape, computer generated image, digital image, or picture, or other similar matter and includes the duplication, reproduction, or reissuing of any such matter, but does not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not involve hiring, contracting for managing or otherwise arranging for the participation of the performers depicted'

and inserting
`actually filming, videotaping, photographing; creating a picture, digital image, or digitally- or computer-manipulated image of an actual human being; or digitizing an image, of a visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct; or, assembling, manufacturing, publishing, duplicating, reproducing, or reissuing a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution, that contains a visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct; or, inserting on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise managing the sexually explicit content, of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, sexually explicit conduct'

which would make the statute cover so called secondary producers,

and:

1) in subsection (a)(l), by striking `actual';

(2) in subsection (b), by striking `actual';

(3) in subsection (f)(4)(A), by striking `actual';

(4) by amending paragraph (1) of subsection (h) to read as follows

which would eliminate the excemption for simulated conduct.

Also the ability to seize assets and other intersting changes.

The republican extremists are out of control again.

[Kinky]

|skyfall|

[Tommy]

so that means amazon.com, blockbuster and all other distrubtors are gonna need the ids for shows like the sopranos, the Lword. and thousands of other movies

newsstands are gonna need the ids to sell mags like hustler and playboy

[Vink]

Originally Posted by Tommy

so that means amazon.com, blockbuster and all other distrubtors are gonna need the ids for shows like the sopranos, the Lword. and thousands of other movies

newsstands are gonna need the ids to sell mags like hustler and playboy

National Geographic with have to get IDs from indiginest tribe members in Borneo.

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Vink

National Geographic with have to get IDs from indiginest tribe members in Borneo.

Tsk. Tsk....remember only u.s. ids are acceptable

from now on they have to do stories on savages that are located in the us

[Erick G]

Tommy
that wont be too hard..
they can start at 1600 pennsylvania ave.

[Tommy]

I was thinking they could look in the astrodome

[LindaMight]

I think I am 2257 stupid....but what the heck does all this mean? I am not following this at all? Does this mean that all pornographic material is against the law? Or is this still just about ID's?

I used to think I was smart....until the government showed up....

[ecchi]

LindaMight - Basically if you are in the US you need to have proof that all the models on your site are over 18, and a link to such statements on your site.

Of course those of us based in Europe are just putting our feet up and drinking beer while our American cousins work hard to follow this new law. Kinda makes me glad to be British.

[LindaMight]

I have all of that and have complied with everything that was previously written as the 2257 regulation. I just don't understand what this new stuff means.....

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by LindaMight

I have all of that and have complied with everything that was previously written as the 2257 regulation. I just don't understand what this new stuff means.....

Don't worry about it

[Kinetic]

I think we should chip in money and sue the Governemnt for violating our rights as citizens. Let's Impeach Bush! How do we do that?

|shocking|
Kinetic

[Lemmy]

Originally Posted by Kinetic

How do we do that?

It's a breeze.

[Wenchy]

Okay, it's all crystal clear now as to why Prez Shrub wants Roberts to be Chief Justice... You can't get impeached if you've got one of your bible-thumping, lifetime-appointment, blatantly-obvious-to-anyone-with-eyes-religioius-agenda buddies overseeing the procedings... Duh!

Might as well suck it up, guys n girls. These religious-wing bastards aren't going to quit until they get what they want. The truly sad/scary part is that I'm not even sure they have a clear-cut game plan other than "give our big-business cronies and/or all "christians" whatever they scream for, no matter how ridiculous or unconstitutional" and "get as many of "our" guys in as we can wherever we can and watch the next group try to play clean up".

You thought the last five years was fun? Wait till they're done in another three... the good ole US of A won't even be recognizable as the same country where Billy-boy shocked the nation by getting blown under his desk.

[Lemmy]

From CNN:

"In a surprizing move by the White House the Supreme Court is to be disbanded immediately and replaced by a council of Methodist Elders. The Constitution is suspended indefinitely and masturbation is made a Capital Offense."

[Tommy]

this is happening because the jesus freaks get out there and vote and normal people dont

when you really watch this adminstration
you start to see how they play games with all these names

like the blue skies Bill which is really a handout to his oil buddys
but who is gonna not get behind a bill called blue skies

now haliburton is gonna get all these no bid contract in New Orleans
what a surprise ...

they are just a bunch of crooks with a great line of christian bullshit

[Cool_Flow]

Originally Posted by Tommy

this is happening because the jesus freaks get out there and vote and normal people dont

That is soo true.

[Kinetic]

Originally Posted by Tommy

like the blue skies Bill which is really a handout to his oil buddys but who is gonna not get behind a bill called blue skies

now haliburton is gonna get all these no bid contract in New Orleans
what a surprise ...

they are just a bunch of crooks with a great line of christian bullshit

Amen Praise Jesus! |bus|

That is speaking the Fuckin Truth Brethern!

Kinetic

[guitar riff]

There is No Afterlife when you are dead you are just dead ya lay in a box and slowly rot away. Religion was made by two monkeys one day that were picking lice off of each other and the thought pooped into their head we need some sort of control factor So they thought about it for weeks then came up with religion.

If people think if they do " right things" then one day they will go to a better place . Then you cut down on the chance of total fucking anarchy and chaos.

Take away religion and no one gives a fuck if they kill 2 million people nothing will happen to them in the end they will just be dead no heaven or no hell just lay in the box and rot.

[tickler]

Originally Posted by LindaMight

I have all of that and have complied with everything that was previously written as the 2257 regulation. I just don't understand what this new stuff means.....

Another take from one of the FSC lawyers.
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=240327

[LindaMight]

So what I get from all of this, after all of these months of people doing everything they can to be in compliance with the 2257 regs back in June.....now the government is saying that anything they consider obscene is subject to prison and fines, no matter what it is, (image, video, drawing, dvd, movie) and it matters not when it was produced, and this has nothing whatsoever to do with a model's ID or child pornography.... it is the right-wingers attempts to shut down the entire adult industry from the internet, to the mom and pop adult stores, to the porn channels shown in hotel rooms? Am I getting this right? Do I even live in the US anymore? And why do I remember a line from a song of our country that says "let freedom ring"? Gosh I remember singing "God Bless America, Land of the Free"....

[stuveltje]

i am getting tired of that 2257 thing, to hell with them all, all have the biggest mouth , while all watch in an sneeky way porn of the youngest g*rls. fuck them

[Surfn]

Those bitches are insane!!