What about java URL masking ?

Arturwol · 2004-02-14, 10:36 AM

Hello @ll

what do you think about masking sponsor url on free sites? I think about Java ? http://sponsor.com in place of http://sponsor.com/enter.blabla?id=b...&banner=blabla

It's forbidden?

Cleo · 2004-02-14, 10:44 AM

Are you talking about mouseovers?

That would be JavaScript not Java. JavaScript is a scripting language and Java is a programing language.

Mouseovers are usually fine as long as they show the URL that the surfer would be taken to minus the affiliate code.

Here is my help page that has mouseover code on it
http://www.cleos-porn-links.com/adul...ster-help.html

Arturwol · 2004-02-14, 10:51 AM

JavaScript of course

Tnx for quick answer !

finnbear · 2004-02-14, 11:04 AM

I think that they are waste of server space.

If Joe Surfer is ready to buy, he can't care less about the URL where he is going. If he's not in buying mood, same thing.

Freeloaders who won't ever buy, know all your links and banners go to paysites, whatever they looks like. I don't even want them to my sponsors.

Every little thing you put in your HTML pays you 1 bit.

Arturwol · 2004-02-14, 11:29 AM

But surfer don't know what's on pay site - when url is simply - he click the link - when paysite is great - he maybe will buy something...

abe · 2004-02-14, 05:05 PM

I agree with finnbear. And when the surfer is 'afraid' of a long url, then probably he will be even more afraid to pull his cc. I prefer him to leave my bandwith as soon as possible.

Arturwol · 2004-02-14, 05:50 PM

I can't agree with you ... if he don't wanna pay for porn - he will go to galleries on free sites and burn your BW ! If he go out from FS to sponsor (from index or main) you dont have to pay for more BW... huh... anybody understand my 'great' english and my idea ?

Cleo · 2004-02-14, 06:00 PM

So Mr. horny surfer likes blonde Asians and has clicked on your gallery because the description was Bleach Blonde Teen Asian and now after seeing a few pics of the twenty year old teen Asian wearing the cheap blonde wig sees your sponsor where you mentioned something about them having beautiful just legal blonde Asians.

Which is going to make them decide to actual click on the link after looking in the status bar to see where they are going to get taken?

No mouseover
http://ccbil.com/cookie969737962962942/cgi-bin/bobthepronargraphy?8888/hkasfk/tour/index.html

or using a mouseover
http://www.youngblondeasians.com/

abe · 2004-02-14, 06:08 PM

Probabely in the freesite I would put something like:

Get your portion of Beauties with Straw Colored Hair and Exotic Asian Skins at YOUNGBLONDEASIANS

abe · 2004-02-14, 06:15 PM

Pushed submit too fast.
If he don't want to pay for porn, then the mouseover won't make him change his mind like finnbear says.
And I'm aware that guys like that suck our bandwith with no return. There's not a lot we can do about that. The little thing I do is hope that they will get tired of clicking my links and start hotlinking. And then ... they are off my domain.

I really don't think that mouseovers is worth the effort. But I might very well be wrong

security_man · 2004-02-14, 07:05 PM

i look at mouseovers in a similar way as i do with sales people. when you walk into dillards and they ask you "can i help you?" you automatically reply "no" even if you do need their help.

its a conditioned response and no one wants to be sold something. when you have a url

Code:

http://hotteensluts.com/tour1.php?affiliateid=1548consoles=1

etc, its analigus to saying to the surfer "can i help you?"

its even worse when the site you are selling is Hot Teen Sluts which is plastered all over the banners and ads but the url is

Code:

http://maximumcash.com/tour1.php?site=HTS&affiliateid=15437

people do look at where the link is going and i think you are doing yourself a disservice if you dont use mouseovers (especially the correct "onfocus" mouseovers cleo has on that page she posted)

finnbear · 2004-02-15, 04:28 AM

Well, that long URL shows in the bottom of browser. Surfer who is hot for blonde Asian teens won't even see it, as he is staring your text link that promise barely legal blonde Asian teens and the banner which has a pic of one. He has work enough to put his mouse on them and click, he don't have time to check the URL from bottom of browser.

2004-02-14, 10:36 AM	#1
Arturwol If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 35	What about java URL masking ? Hello @ll what do you think about masking sponsor url on free sites? I think about Java ? http://sponsor.com in place of http://sponsor.com/enter.blabla?id=b...&banner=blabla It's forbidden?

2004-02-14, 10:44 AM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Are you talking about mouseovers? That would be JavaScript not Java. JavaScript is a scripting language and Java is a programing language. Mouseovers are usually fine as long as they show the URL that the surfer would be taken to minus the affiliate code. Here is my help page that has mouseover code on it http://www.cleos-porn-links.com/adul...ster-help.html __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-02-14, 11:04 AM	#4
finnbear You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 534	I think that they are waste of server space. If Joe Surfer is ready to buy, he can't care less about the URL where he is going. If he's not in buying mood, same thing. Freeloaders who won't ever buy, know all your links and banners go to paysites, whatever they looks like. I don't even want them to my sponsors. Every little thing you put in your HTML pays you 1 bit. __________________ My free porn sites

2004-02-14, 06:00 PM	#8
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	So Mr. horny surfer likes blonde Asians and has clicked on your gallery because the description was Bleach Blonde Teen Asian and now after seeing a few pics of the twenty year old teen Asian wearing the cheap blonde wig sees your sponsor where you mentioned something about them having beautiful just legal blonde Asians. Which is going to make them decide to actual click on the link after looking in the status bar to see where they are going to get taken? No mouseover http://ccbil.com/cookie969737962962942/cgi-bin/bobthepronargraphy?8888/hkasfk/tour/index.html or using a mouseover http://www.youngblondeasians.com/ __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-02-14, 07:05 PM	#11
security_man Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 260	i look at mouseovers in a similar way as i do with sales people. when you walk into dillards and they ask you "can i help you?" you automatically reply "no" even if you do need their help. its a conditioned response and no one wants to be sold something. when you have a url Code: http://hotteensluts.com/tour1.php?affiliateid=1548consoles=1 etc, its analigus to saying to the surfer "can i help you?" its even worse when the site you are selling is Hot Teen Sluts which is plastered all over the banners and ads but the url is Code: http://maximumcash.com/tour1.php?site=HTS&affiliateid=15437 people do look at where the link is going and i think you are doing yourself a disservice if you dont use mouseovers (especially the correct "onfocus" mouseovers cleo has on that page she posted) __________________ <a href="http://www.linkalotapuss.com/home.php" target="_blank"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Linkalotapuss.com</a> - Submit your sites</font>

2004-02-14, 10:51 AM	#3
Arturwol If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 35	JavaScript of course Tnx for quick answer !

2004-02-14, 11:29 AM	#5
Arturwol If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 35	But surfer don't know what's on pay site - when url is simply - he click the link - when paysite is great - he maybe will buy something...

2004-02-14, 05:05 PM	#6
abe Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 99	I agree with finnbear. And when the surfer is 'afraid' of a long url, then probably he will be even more afraid to pull his cc. I prefer him to leave my bandwith as soon as possible.

2004-02-14, 05:50 PM	#7
Arturwol If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 35	I can't agree with you ... if he don't wanna pay for porn - he will go to galleries on free sites and burn your BW ! If he go out from FS to sponsor (from index or main) you dont have to pay for more BW... huh... anybody understand my 'great' english and my idea ?

2004-02-14, 06:08 PM	#9
abe Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 99	Probabely in the freesite I would put something like: Get your portion of Beauties with Straw Colored Hair and Exotic Asian Skins at YOUNGBLONDEASIANS

2004-02-14, 06:15 PM	#10
abe Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 99	Pushed submit too fast. If he don't want to pay for porn, then the mouseover won't make him change his mind like finnbear says. And I'm aware that guys like that suck our bandwith with no return. There's not a lot we can do about that. The little thing I do is hope that they will get tired of clicking my links and start hotlinking. And then ... they are off my domain. I really don't think that mouseovers is worth the effort. But I might very well be wrong

2004-02-15, 04:28 AM	#12
finnbear You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 534	Well, that long URL shows in the bottom of browser. Surfer who is hot for blonde Asian teens won't even see it, as he is staring your text link that promise barely legal blonde Asian teens and the banner which has a pic of one. He has work enough to put his mouse on them and click, he don't have time to check the URL from bottom of browser. __________________ My free porn sites