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Originally Posted by ecchi

The original idea of religion may be the "product of that carnal, primitive thinking" but that is just the initial thought. The actual writing of the Bible took a longer, planned approach. And if it was done for the reasons you suggested in your first post, it took a lot of Machiavellian thinking.


Wanting women for yourself is "more gut reaction and primitive", doing something instantly (like hitting someone you think is paying too much attention to your wife) is "more gut reaction and primitive" but sitting down and writing a book to ensure you "get the women" takes planning, forethought and is about as far from "more gut reaction and primitive" as you can get. Think about the idea of "a crime of passion" Vs a "premeditated crime". Sitting down and writing a book of the Bible is most defiantly "premeditated", not something you did instinctively.

To use your own example, writing a book of the Bible is not like a dog fucking a bitch, it is like a dog spending it's entire life planning to fuck one particular bitch, tricking it's owner into always taking their walks past her home, spreading rumours in the dog world that she has a venereal disease, getting friendly with her parents, etc, etc. Not "instinctive", but some "serious planning"


Yes, not liking promiscuous women and calling them sluts is instinctive, but if a woman spent years writing a book to keep promiscuous women away that would not be instinctive, it would be planned Machiavellian thinking.

What I'm saying is this, put another way: For one Bible thumper to use the Bible to seek domain over another person is not Machiavellian; They have those primitive impulses to control people around them anyway (and I think the psychology behind it has to do with sex and protecting the family). It's just convenient for them to use God's "divine providence" to satisfy their primitive whims (like keeping things people enjoy banned). As far as the creation of the Bible, I don't know its creator(s) intentions. Machiavellian or not, it's a projection of something more base and primitive. The fact that it's laced with misogyny is enough to convince me of that.

I re-read our posts, and I'm not sure if we're in complete disagreement. We certainly agree on this I think: Man uses religion to seek domain over his fellow man. The reason behind it is where we may disagree.