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Old 2004-12-18, 03:19 PM   #1
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To link list owners

To owners of http://debauchery.com/, http://www.explorexxx.com/, http://fetishbank.net/, http://www.linkforsex.com, http://schnaggle.com/, http://www.sexgrace.com/, http://www.sex-library.com/

You do not approve my sites... Why?
Can you explain that please?
Thank you

Here are my sites with

linkforsex.com recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...xxx/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/black-grou...sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...ain/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/main/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/psycho-slu...sex/index.html

debauchery.com recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/files/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/hot/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...ain/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/hot/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/black-grou...les/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...rny/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/free/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/psycho-slu...les/index.html

explorexxx.com recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/page/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/page/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...tml/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/page/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/black-grou...age/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...ost/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/fuck/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/psycho-slu...age/index.html

fetishbank.net recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/fuck/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/porn/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...xxx/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/home/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...ain/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/web/index.html

schnaggle.com recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/post/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...ter/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/black-grou...ost/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...tml/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/hot/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/psycho-slu...ost/index.html

sexgrace.com recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...rea/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/black-grou...sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...ics/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/hot/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/psycho-slu...sex/index.html

sex-library.com recips:
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/sex-bombs/files/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...rea/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/cock_therapy/files/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/black-grou...sex/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/anal-deflo...ics/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/asadaisy/files/index.html
http://pornheap.net/sites/psycho-slu...sex/index.html
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Old 2004-12-18, 06:22 PM   #2
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i just checked http://pornheap.net/sites/group-sex-...xxx/index.html and i could tell you that the text "Click here to see more" could be mistaken for an enter link and that is why it could have gotten rejected.. hope that helps, i didnt check the others but i assume it would be a similar problem..
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Old 2004-12-18, 06:40 PM   #3
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well, the problem is that these link lists do not list my sites even with minimum amount of outgoing links and the most inoffensive descriptions
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Old 2004-12-18, 11:17 PM   #4
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well, the problem is that these link lists do not list my sites even with minimum amount of outgoing links and the most inoffensive descriptions
well its not really the fact that its an outbound link, its the fact that its kinda deceptive and people that want to see the galleries might click that thinking it will take them to the galleries...
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Old 2004-12-19, 11:25 AM   #5
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Thank you FTS, but I'd like also to hear some words from the owners of link lists mentioned above
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Old 2004-12-19, 12:41 PM   #6
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Hi Carlos,
Jeff, from debauchery.com, is on vacation right now. I will email him this thread, and I am sure he will get back to you when he gets back. It will be after Christmas.
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Old 2004-12-19, 02:20 PM   #7
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I didn't look at the others....but
http://pornheap.net/sites/3someblack/files/index.html

looks OK to me.....I think you have in the past, but if you are not currently submitting to FreeSiteXXX.com....those would be OKed by us..

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Old 2004-12-19, 03:38 PM   #8
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XPorn: I am your regular poster and never got any reject messages from you... all of my sites have been successfully approved

jennym: thanks a lot for your help

i'd like to give a little explanation for my post:
i have listing troubles only with link lists listed above... other great link sites like link-o-rama, penisbot, smutgremlins etc.
always list my sites...

so I have two ways to go: to ask the owners of that link lists or to pull them out from my database... the second way is simple but unreasonable

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Old 2004-12-19, 04:56 PM   #9
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Hey, I'll accept ya...those galleries seem pretty decent to me.
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Old 2004-12-19, 09:59 PM   #10
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i must say they do look really good
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Old 2004-12-20, 12:25 AM   #11
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Carlos - I'll list those sites for you - even though they technically break my rules - no need to resub them

#9 No click counters - I must be able to see the link code on your page - I am jack of having to click your links to see what bullshit your sponsors are pulling

I don't want to be an arsehole... I reluctantly brought in that rule when a sponsor installed an unremoveable toolbar on my IE - which took me over 4 hours to uninstall... |raygun|
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Old 2004-12-20, 04:58 AM   #12
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Nice sites.

If you're looking for more places to submit to, please add me.
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Old 2004-12-20, 05:16 AM   #13
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Nice sites Carlos,
Add me to your submit list if you want - see sig
up to 5 sites a day in different categories at the moment
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Old 2004-12-20, 10:07 AM   #14
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You were banned here a long time ago - I was getting multisubmits from Serge Head under many differrent names and emails and still will not list sites that have domains registered to that name and all the aliases

That and some of the domains and sites you were submitting were things like :

Meta Description: older and mature woman, young boy fuck mature woman, sex picture and movie galleries that are updated every day. Mature, Older, Grannies and Young pictures gallery and sex video
Meta Keywords: mature woman, older moms, grannies sex, young boys, mature sex, thumbnail, gallery, tgp, links, adult, entertainment, post, picture, thumbs, porn, sex, free, galleries, thumbnails
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Old 2004-12-20, 01:45 PM   #15
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Wazza: I don't use click counters. I use htaccess file to send surfers to sponsor sites, it looks like:

RewriteEngine On

RewriteRule ^sugarmamas/ http://click.silvercash.com/?a=1004075&s=943&r=5&p=8

RewriteRule ^naughty_therapy/ http://click.silvercash.com/?a=1004075&s=941&r=5&p=8

.....

it's just more convenient for me... if you can see I use links with disabled popups only... and I always do so... From this time I will use direct links. Thank you for your comments.
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Old 2004-12-20, 02:23 PM   #16
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Linkster:

First of all thank you for your reply... I tried to contact you many times but you ignored all of my messages

And I'd like to give some explanations:
1. I NEVER submit more than 1 site per 1-3 days. I always follow the rules.
2. My name is not Serge Head. I've just looked at my domain info and found that it is wrong... My domain name was registered by third party company and as I understand they used information of their representative in spite of the fact that I provided my personal data... In the near future I will try to contact them and correct domain name holder information, otherwise I'll transfer my domain to another registrar.
3. I do not use such shitty descriptions and keywords that you've cited as an example! Besides that keywords contain illegal phrases like young boys etc... Maybe I am not so lucky to get listed at your link list but I'm not an idiot to play such tricks. The sites you're talking about are not mine. As I understand there are a lot of domain names with Serge Head info which have different owners who submit their sites to your link list...
The sites I have submited to you are listed above. And I always
use just a one email mail[at]pornheap.net
I like your link list site and I'm interested in long-term cooperation with you... I hope you'll give me a chance. Thank you.

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Old 2004-12-20, 05:41 PM   #17
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hmm

it sounds like hes tellin the truth to me personally... ive heard of places that register domains for you and they end up putting THEIR info in it instead of yours.

but im not the one to make any decisions, just my 2 cents that it seems as though carlos is really trying to being honest.
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Old 2004-12-20, 06:13 PM   #18
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I guess I really have one more question - as I checked some old databases and it seems that I have been getting submits from that domain (and your .com of the same name) for some time (a lot longer than what your whois shows as you owning it)
This domain has been banned for a long time - as well as the other domains like virginshardcore.com, mature-young.com, Dissolute-teen.com, Young-girls-porn.com etc. that all are on the same IPs and all have similar or connected email addresses and mailing addresses.
I guess Im having trouble understanding what type of hosting you are on that you have a cheaters whois info on your domain info? And share the same fake nameservers with them?
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Old 2004-12-20, 06:53 PM   #19
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hmm

my guess, that is, if he is telling the truth, is that he used some other program to get into the adult industry (there are a few, that claim to help you get started making 1k a week lol)

These companies will then register your domain for you, and end up putting in their info (so they can later claim they own the domain name)

by doing this, and having control of the nameservers also, these so called programs can end up being a breeding ground for cheaters, but then at some points there are honest webmasters that sign up into the cheater infested "program".

im by no means saying this is the case, but lately ive got alot of spam from these places claiming if i sign up with them they can help me make a shit ton in the adult industry ( and then proceed to pull the above shit i mentioned )

Just a thought! All i know is it sucks to be an honest webmaster and get accused of things that you dont do, however i know, more often then not the people being accused ARE cheaters.

just my 2 cents
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Old 2004-12-20, 07:22 PM   #20
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I run explorexxx.com

Serge Head has been on my shit list for a long time. You need to deal with a new company I guess. Or register your own domain(s).

Anything associated with Serge Head will never get listed with me.
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Old 2004-12-20, 07:28 PM   #21
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yeah

it seems like thats your best bet carlos, if you are truly an honest webmaster then ditch whatever place this is that has put that whois on your domain, and geta new one with a personal dedicated server from one of the trusted places listed all over this board.
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Old 2004-12-20, 07:42 PM   #22
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I also guess I really missed the big point other than the problem with the domains
and that is that I normally dont accept sponsor content - should be on my rules page
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Old 2004-12-20, 07:59 PM   #23
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Quite right Carlos - that rule is ambiguous. The method you're employing is one which I hadn't considered - I'll rewrite it now |rasta|
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Old 2004-12-25, 11:18 AM   #24
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Hi Carlos,

I'm Jeff with Debauchery.com

Your sites are fine and will be listed at Debauchery.

It's not that I did not approve your sites (I send an e-mail when I don't approve a site), it's just that I have not worked submissions from the weeks that you submitted them yet. There is a lag time between when you submit a site and when I review it. I'm usually a number of weeks behind, but because of the holidays I'm a bit further behind right now.

Even if you had you not posted this, you would've started receiving acceptance e-mails from me for your first submissions somewhere around the end of next week.

Thanks for submitting!

Happy Holidays!

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Old 2004-12-26, 09:12 AM   #25
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Thank you all guys for your replies!!!

special thanks to CaptainJSparrow, Wazza, XPorn, jennym, Dylan, cfnmparty, anteyes...

to Linkster:
1. your rule 17 is not strict: If You use sponsor content you probably wont get listed***New 09/25/04, so this rule can not be the cause for domain ban if I understand it right...

2. I never had the domain names you're talking about!!! I don't have my own server and have to use virtual hosting... And I can not be responsible for the actions of my hosting provider as well as for neighbor sites (domain names) and the actions of their owners. Be sure I have never submited more than 1 (one) site per day (usually I submit 1 site per 2 or 3 days) to your link list and have no concern with that crappy sites...

I've successfully changed whois info for my domains (I was right: Serge Head is the representative of third party registration service provider... they use that info for the most of domains they register)...

Linkster and Ramster: could you please remove me from your black lists? I always use mail[at]pornheap.net email and name Carlos for all of my submissions so you can monitor my activity

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