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Old 2006-01-11, 09:35 PM   #1
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marketing to the BBW niche

I was told our tour is offensive to BBW lovers: http://www.bigblowjobchicks.com/tour.php

Me personaly, I have no idea how to best market to this niche because I'm not into it myself, its just not my thing. I really do believe we have some good content for this site, that BBW lovers would eat up, but I'm just not sure how to market this stuff. I would tend to talk about how the girl loves eating at mcdonalds or whatever.. making jokes.

can anyone point a guy in the right direction?
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Old 2006-01-11, 09:49 PM   #2
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Oh yeah selling BBW's buy making fun of them is wonderful tactic NOT!!! You do have some good content but to make fun of them is not gonna cut it I have been doing mostly BBW stuff for very long time and I can tell ya first hand putting hamburgers on the tours and poking fun is not gonna make it
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Old 2006-01-11, 09:53 PM   #3
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thanks MML. Thats pretty much what someone else told me.. I need to think like a BBW lover, its tricky
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It's no real rocket science to it just apply the same as you would with any other niche apply the positive and don't be negative.
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i changed some of the text around.. hopefully its a bit better now.
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Old 2006-01-12, 12:41 AM   #6
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Actually, it's not tricky at all. Check it out.

When you look at the women you love to look at, you think they're beautiful

Cut and paste that to BBW and you've got it

If a BBW lover looked at slim models and made a tour saying "Check out our latest bulimic stick figures! They hawk up every meal just so you can damn near see their bones!" You'd probably say WTF?? Thats sick!

Your ads just have to insert themselves into the dialogue that is taking place in the surfers mind. Perspective!
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Hi Bob,

I'm just curious, why did you pick a niche that didn't appeal to you in the first place?
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Old 2006-01-12, 11:45 AM   #8
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Yeah, I gotta come out of the woodwork on this one. I personally know a guy who is a BBW fan who has pretty much given up on porn altogether because he thinks that the webmasters have no respect for what he loves. He truly finds these women to be the morst gorgeous thing on the planet, and has said he feels insulted when he sees the fat jokes...like the webmasters are making fun of HIM...not the models.

And truth be told, none of the girls in your tours are really even close to being that huge...they're just normal, everyday, chubby type girls. Which I think almost everyone finds hot on some level....I'm sure the big-tit guys would love them!

Anyway, I'm not a marketing guru by any stretch, as we are just getting started on our full-time career in this biz and we have a LONG way to go. But I think that just unless you are marketing content that is specifically degrading and disgusting (and don't EVEN get me started on that), you should assume that whomever is going to buy your product is buying it because they LOVE it.

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Hi Bob,

I'm just curious, why did you pick a niche that didn't appeal to you in the first place?
well, we shoot everything ourselves for our sites. and we have a POV Blowjob site, but some girls we've shot are just too big for it. but no use in that content going to waste so now we have a site for thicker girls.
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Yeah, I gotta come out of the woodwork on this one. I personally know a guy who is a BBW fan who has pretty much given up on porn altogether because he thinks that the webmasters have no respect for what he loves. He truly finds these women to be the morst gorgeous thing on the planet, and has said he feels insulted when he sees the fat jokes...like the webmasters are making fun of HIM...not the models.

And truth be told, none of the girls in your tours are really even close to being that huge...they're just normal, everyday, chubby type girls. Which I think almost everyone finds hot on some level....I'm sure the big-tit guys would love them!

Anyway, I'm not a marketing guru by any stretch, as we are just getting started on our full-time career in this biz and we have a LONG way to go. But I think that just unless you are marketing content that is specifically degrading and disgusting (and don't EVEN get me started on that), you should assume that whomever is going to buy your product is buying it because they LOVE it.

Later, peeps!
ya i realize they aren't like fat fat girls, but they wouldn't really fit on our other blowjob site. I appreciate the feedback, no more fat jokes from me!
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Old 2006-01-12, 01:14 PM   #11
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Actually, it's not tricky at all. Check it out.

When you look at the women you love to look at, you think they're beautiful

Cut and paste that to BBW and you've got it

If a BBW lover looked at slim models and made a tour saying "Check out our latest bulimic stick figures! They hawk up every meal just so you can damn near see their bones!" You'd probably say WTF?? Thats sick!

Your ads just have to insert themselves into the dialogue that is taking place in the surfers mind. Perspective!
LOL thats a good perspective. Thank you very much for your advice.
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Old 2006-01-12, 05:14 PM   #12
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Quote:
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If a BBW lover looked at slim models and made a tour saying "Check out our latest bulimic stick figures! They hawk up every meal just so you can damn near see their bones!" You'd probably say WTF?? Thats sick!
Great explanation!!!
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Old 2006-01-12, 06:05 PM   #13
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I've always made good money with bbw's. It's all in how you market them and who you market them to. Like most any niche.
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Old 2006-01-12, 06:42 PM   #14
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Heres some tips for you from experience..

BBW lovers although of course they love to look at boobs, ass and pussy there are some that love looking at womens curves, belly overhang, love handles and some even as far as stretch marks and cellulite depending on how big they like their women.

As MrMaryLou said, never ever ever use food in tours, its degrading to the women which in turn is degrading to the men who love them. Not every fat chick eats crap

Your top line "Big girls suck better cock because they are always hungry" is funny. Do skinny chicks eat cock to put on weight? lol. Again its not really appealing to the lovers out there.

If you'd like any more advice, hit me up. We run 2 bbw sites at present (one is my own paysite).
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well, we shoot everything ourselves for our sites. and we have a POV Blowjob site, but some girls we've shot are just too big for it. but no use in that content going to waste so now we have a site for thicker girls.
See.. it's the attitude you have.. it's like saying, you want some of this meat loaf, I'm going to throw it away anyway.

Not putting you down at all Bob, just trying to make you see that your attitude is carrying over into your site text and presentation. What I'd suggest is for you to get someone who understands the niche to help you with the site, maybe hire a text writer or something along that line.
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Old 2006-01-13, 02:53 AM   #16
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Making a niche work for you is all about research. Just because it's not your own personal kink doesn't mean it's impossible to make it sell. Take a look at what the other sites in your niche are doing. Check out the yahoo or msn groups, see what the bbw lovers are saying. You have to get into their heads.
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Heres some tips for you from experience..

BBW lovers although of course they love to look at boobs, ass and pussy there are some that love looking at womens curves, belly overhang, love handles and some even as far as stretch marks and cellulite depending on how big they like their women.

As MrMaryLou said, never ever ever use food in tours, its degrading to the women which in turn is degrading to the men who love them. Not every fat chick eats crap

Your top line "Big girls suck better cock because they are always hungry" is funny. Do skinny chicks eat cock to put on weight? lol. Again its not really appealing to the lovers out there.

If you'd like any more advice, hit me up. We run 2 bbw sites at present (one is my own paysite).
thank you very much, I will be in touch

and thanks to everyone else for your feedback

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Old 2006-01-15, 08:16 PM   #18
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Your leaving money on the table.
I just looked at the overview stats for Sexycitycash and the BBW site there is the TOP selling and recurring site in the program.

Looks like Spaz took some of MML's suggestions to heart.
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I am a webmaster of solo girl BBW sites and a BBW network... I think the site looks ghood enough to convert the closet BBW lover and a few fans of the Plus size girl...
if you have an affiliate program I would be more than willing to give you some one on one marketing and promo tips I have as a lover of my labor... shot me an email info@bringitoncash.com
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I am a webmaster of solo girl BBW sites and a BBW network... I think the site looks ghood enough to convert the closet BBW lover and a few fans of the Plus size girl...
if you have an affiliate program I would be more than willing to give you some one on one marketing and promo tips I have as a lover of my labor... shot me an email info@bringitoncash.com
the site is converting MUCH better since i took MML's and others advice. email sent thanks.

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Old 2006-02-05, 11:25 PM   #21
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Nice site bro i love BBW sites..It all depends on how you market your
site i know you are trying to keep it clean and not offensive to others.

My site is offensive and it is ment to be offensive,offensive can be profitable...
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Nice site bro i love BBW sites..It all depends on how you market your
site i know you are trying to keep it clean and not offensive to others.

My site is offensive and it is ment to be offensive,offensive can be profitable...
Thanks for the compliments.

I supppose it could be.. but after I took out the fast food jokes and that 'big girls suck better cock because they are always hungry' bit in the header, our converstions went way up.
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