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2011-07-09, 12:53 AM
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I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pennsylvania
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Questions about Dee Cash Programs
So since I haven't been in the business that long I am not as familiar with Dee Cash as many of you all are. I see so many complaints about this group and I just had a few questions regarding this company. I've searched the forums, but I never really find a good solid answer to some of what I'm wondering.
The first thing I'm curious about is why everyone has a problem with them. I notice a lot of complaints about them buying programs and letting them go to shit. Is this the main problem with them? The other thing I'm wondering is if they are a group to avoid doing business with than I want to know what other programs they bought out so I can be wary of promoting them. I saw they own Mayors Money which I used to promote, but I wasn't happy with it so I quit pushing it. So basically what other programs do they run? |
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2011-07-09, 06:49 AM
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I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vietnam
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They started a new website mediarevenue . com and most of their programs are listed as 'partners'. Why don't they just say they are responsible for those sites?
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2011-07-09, 07:26 AM
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Former pr0n slinger.
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Cross-sales is one of the many reasons people don't like them that much.
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2011-07-09, 11:03 AM
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wtfwjd?
Join Date: May 2007
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When I got started, Dee was in the process of buying up a lot of programs. So many of the programs I promoted early on are now owned by Dee. Probably the best thing to do to get an idea of how the relationship between Dee and webmasters has not been positive is to do a search on this board.
Of course things change...as of right now, things could be better, but I stopped promoting them some time ago to due non-coversion and a couple of other issues. |
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2011-07-09, 03:15 PM
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I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pennsylvania
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Yeah I was on last night when a spammer was on and posted in an old ass thread and I saw some complaints about their programs so when I saw they own Mayors Money I thought I would ask what else they run.
Ill give that site a look that faxxaff mentioned so thanks for the comments guys. |
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2011-07-09, 05:45 PM
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Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip!
Join Date: Apr 2003
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My primary issue with them is that they let their sites rot. They don't add new content, at least not to the sites that used to sell well for me. Nor do they provide webmasters with new promotional content, forcing a person to resuse old old old content, or to try to sell with third party content.
However, they have also been accused of card-banging and other shady practices. Is that true? I do not know. Could be it's mot banging its all just well-concealed cross-selling. But, logic suggests, if you are going to buy a ton of aging sites, and then not refresh the content, your business model is not based on retention. |
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2011-07-11, 10:33 PM
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If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada eh!
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Here is a list of DEE cash affiliate programs I found and there could be others - all are NATS
archivecash.com AdultMobileCash.com BadGirlBucks.com BangMeNowCash bbwdollars.com blingbucks.com BoyfriendBucks.com CamSpotCash.com chubbychecks.com DeeCash.com EbonyPays.com EliteDollars.com EpicCash.com ExtremePaychecks.com gaygravy.com gaypay.com GFKings.com GFProfits HypeTraffic.com incredibledollars.com JasonAndAlex.com JoinRightNow.com legalbait.com MayorsMoney.com MeatCash.com milfcash.com mitzas.com MovieProfits.com nichecastle.com NichedSites.com nichepay.com prideacess.com PureMeds.com pushamateurs.com RageCash.com realteencash.com rehabdollars.com Rude.com skintraffic.com SoloConverts.com STFUCash.com StiffyCash.com studpay.com tastydollars.com teenrevenue.com TrafficCashGold.com trannyexperts.com Trannypay.com triplexbonaza.com TripleXCash.com WildCash.com Its too bad they purchased alot of these programs - in the past I did very well with alot of them and as soon as DEE bought them the conversions turned to crap  |
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2011-07-12, 09:42 AM
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wtfwjd?
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2011-07-13, 07:18 AM
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You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
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Damn that's a big list...
Well they just don't convert for me..
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2011-07-14, 02:30 AM
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If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada eh!
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If DEE would combine all the money we earn from ALL those affiliate sites it wouldn't be so bad - ONE cheque and you would only need a sale from each to make minimum. As it stands now most of those programs owe me money but I am struggling making the minimums this year since sales have dropped. So they have lots of my money which I will never see because I just don't actively promote most of them now.
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2011-07-12, 05:06 AM
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You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
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2011-07-12, 05:27 AM
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Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip!
Join Date: Apr 2003
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So, maybe they are updating inside the sites. No, wait, there are two at east where I have ID/pass to go inside, and I have, looking fo rnew content to use for promotion. The members area was exactly the same as it was two years ago. So at least two I KNOW have not updated inside the members area since the sale. And I have checked the old extremepaychecks affiliate areas a number of times since the sale, and movieprofuts too as I recall, tho not as regularly, and they were dead inside the affiliate areas. I used ot make a lot of money off extreme paychecks and decent money off movieprofits, so I wanted them to continue and grow. On the plus side, I do still see signups from my old links that go to dee sites, and have gotten paid for those sales. |
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2011-07-12, 06:53 AM
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Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it?
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Check out the tour pages for Movie Profits sites like Teen DVD Club. All the dates are 2007-2009. My conversion ratio at Movie Profits plummeted last year. Why would anyone join if the site hasn't been updated in years? On a positive note, I've never had a problem getting paid from Dee. And their affiliate reps are very nice, always answer my emails and help me with anything I need. Which is more than I can say for some other programs. |
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2011-07-12, 07:20 PM
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Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip!
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I have no reason to think that, no evidence. And like you say, movie profits tours are dead. Lol, as dead as the DVD model of paysite - so we can't necessarily blame dee for that. I think future paysites will be based on the story model - much more expensive to shoot tho. |
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2011-07-12, 10:01 AM
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You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Hmm, this all seems like an easy click machine. It would be definitely better to say exactly what product I actually selling instead of pathetic marketing bullshit...
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2011-07-12, 04:48 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I didn't know they had that many programs
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DiamondGays.com - fresh twinks and best ratio! Highly recommended! |
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2011-07-14, 12:58 PM
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Along for the ride and loving it.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Canada
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Hi Tam, is there any possibility that Dee will ever combine the sites and our payments so we can manage everything from one account?
I used to promote ragecash heavily but since 2008 after sending 37060 unique's I have made a paltry $230 and my last sale was back in 09. That's a good example of why I don't promote you anywhere near as much as I used to. It would also help if you actually put content back on the ragecash site. Nothing has been available since Dee took it over. |
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2011-07-14, 01:33 PM
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Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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We do combine payouts, although the minimum payout still needs to be met per program.. please bare with us as this will be solved and cleaned up very soon! Combining sites? Soon to be announced  Rest your mind assured that we are working hard on: - Lowering Minimum Payouts - Lowering holding times on payouts The minimum payouts are a result of an intense amount of fraudulent webmasters hitting programs since late 2009 and ongoing... Currently we still get 100-200 fraud webmasters applying to our programs.. Now, affiliate programs are still in great shape... the reason why a lot of programs went belly up is because they: - Paid out on fraud - Got hit by chargebacks Imagine programX did 100 fraud joins a day for 2 weeks and paid out 100x14=1400x35$PPS = - 49,000$ Than, get hit by chargebacks (cost 40$) 100x14=1400x40 = - 56000$ making the total of - 105,000$ = out of business.. We already accomplished: - Weekly payouts - Moved from 30-day hold to 15-day hold About ragecash.com - The top converting sites from 2009 lost processing due to competition messing with the niches.. - We noticed a big market in GF sites and added them to the program which are currently converting extremely well Please drop me an email with your username and I will dig in and come up with suggestions for you on ragecash asap Thank you
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2011-07-14, 01:42 PM
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The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo)
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I like where this thread is heading
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2011-07-14, 02:22 PM
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I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In your face
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Lists of Programs Updating With Ratios:
Archive Cash Top Converting Sites: Asses on the Job Real Celeb Hunters Chubby Cheaters Real Hooker Pickups Celebrity Mixup Redneck Confessions Boyfriend Bucks Top converting sites: GangstaBfs: 1:183! RippedBfs: 1:217 HungBlackBfs: 1:243 DaddyBfs: 1:268 HungBFs: 1:292 BearBfs: 1:304 Barebackedbfs: 1:316 BlackTwinkBfs: 1:330 Elite Dollars Top Sites By Ratios Ass Licking Club 1:209 All Elite Pass 1:220 Banned Celebs 1:269 GoGoCeleb 1:314 Sistas in The Hood 1:572 GFKings Top converting sites: NNexGfs: 1/283 TeenieBlackGirls: 1/319 BlackLesbianGfs: 1/344 RealEmoGirls: 1/375 CumCoveredGfs: 1/389 InterracialTeenGfs: 1/407 CollegeTrueLife: 1/431 GFProfits Top converting sites: RealTeenieGFs.com, 1/301!!! BlackTeenGirlFriends.com, 1/337!!! DaddysLittleGf.com, 1/392!!! RealGfAss.com, 1/419!!! Gay Gravy Our Top Converting Sites Bears Fuck Boys - 1:254 Gay Gravy - 1:304 Real Male Sex Scandals - 1:366 Asian Boys In Pain - 1:401 Thugs On White Boys - 1:449 Thugs on Twinks - 1:462 Brazil Bus 1:235 Gay Pay Top converting sites: Twink Access, 1/173!!! Cum Into My Ass, 1/219! Twink Fuck Fest, 1/276! Licking Boys, 1/311! Pop Boys, 1/345 Milk Squirting Boys, 1/388! Twinks Filled With Cum, 1/394 Meat Cash Top converting sites: MeatMembers.com, 1/291 FuckdUpFantasy.com, 1/320 TeaseItOut.com, 1/338 FuckedUpHentai.com, 1/391 MidNightProwl.com, 1/411 SquirtBukkake.com, 1/417 CatFightGangBang.com, 1/436 AnalLickFest.com, 1/442 FuckedUpFacials.com, 1/473 AllCelebPass.com, 1/501 Rage Cash Top converting sites: RileyRebel.com (Non Nude) - 1/91!!!! CamWithAstarte.com - 1/117!! ExposedTeenTube.com - 1/185! PervNetwork.com - 1/223 TeenieBlackGirlfriends.com - 1/279 CamWithAngel.com 1/296 EmoTeenSluts.com - 1/327 GFPass.com - 1/388 MegaTrannyPass.com - 1/466 Rehab Dollars Top converting sites: BlackCelebsOnly.com 1:200! CelebsOnly.com 1:382 TwinkCelebsOnly.com 1:404 Tranny Pay Top converting sites: AllTrannyPass.com, 1/187! ShemaleGulpers.com, 1/223 TrannySports.com, 1/242 YoungAsianTrannies.com, 1/266 TrannyOffice.com, 1/325 ShemaleJobs.com, 1/388 BangedByTrannies.com, 1/403 RealTrannyPickUps.com, 1/417 TripleXCash Top converting sites: CollegeFuckFest.com 1:325! Radgasm.com: 1:369 Nipporn.com 1:401 That is what I believe to be an accurate list - Nick can come and correct me if I am wrong..  |
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2011-07-14, 01:47 PM
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Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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Now about ratio's and such... for anyone on greenguysboard.. or off please contact me and lets make it all work...
Tam will post shortly our top converting programs and retaining programs for the revshare promotors..
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2011-07-14, 03:25 PM
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The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Can I go one step deeper & ask about retention? If the site isn't being updated, we may make a sale off a good tour, but then they cancel before they rebill.
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2011-07-14, 04:31 PM
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Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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Some sites are just not worth updating with exclusive scenes based on the amount of fresh daily joins coming in... Yet, if a new member signs up to any site we give them access to a membersarea with 40-50+ exclusive sites Based on your traffic/sites I will be able to recommend you either to use PPS or revshare on any of our products At the end of the day I want affiliates to make more money this way we will be able to gain more of your business & long term relationships
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2011-07-16, 01:40 PM
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I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me
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Didn't you notice 2 pre-checked x-sales (check signup form)? |
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2011-07-14, 04:14 PM
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I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pennsylvania
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Hey thanks to Tam and Nick for responding to a few problems that people have mentioned.
I have been a member of Mayors Money since I started in the biz about a year ago and I was just wondering if you have any plans for expanding this program or adding content to some other of your programs. Really looking forward to seeing a list of your most updated promo tools for your programs. |
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