Epass Replacment

Tommy · 2010-10-13, 09:50 AM

western union has a setup similar to epassport

if sponsors started offering this as payment
it looks like it could be even better then epass

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB...name=HomePage#

ponyman · 2010-10-13, 04:18 PM

What about this Payoneer I keep reading about? Noticed FuckYouCash made an announcement they are going to offer payouts using Payoneer within the next 2 months.

petergg2 · 2010-10-13, 05:56 PM

I saw some offer paxum, I have singup for them on one sponsor, maybe they good to collect small payment's

but that I will know after about few weeks (need get some payment, then apply for ccard and wait they come by post to me

and then check it work

)

pc · 2010-10-13, 08:00 PM

On Payoneer internal pages you can find "Pricing & Fees" page:

Quote:

- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded
- Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded
Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe.
- Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded
- Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month
- Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month
- Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card
- Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
- ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
- ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made
- Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
* For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates.

looks like they charging for every possible action there is.

Tommy that Western Union card looks good
WU prepaid card - pricing & fees
Now we need few sponsors to offer this option and maybe others will follow.

Ms Naughty · 2010-10-13, 11:03 PM

Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it.

Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it?

Ramster · 2010-10-14, 08:28 AM

- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded
- Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded
Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe.
- Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded
- Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month
- Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month
- Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card
- Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
- ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
- ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made
- Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
* For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates.

WOW. That is a LOT of fees. I won' be using them ever!!

Tommy · 2010-10-14, 08:54 AM

the reason i liked western union is that its a huge system .. Millions of people use it

I also know the western union card is used by a lot of escorts

tickler · 2010-10-14, 10:05 AM

O'm curious how any of them handle the $1000 lifetime max load on debit cards with the new Card Act.

terry · 2010-10-14, 10:26 AM

Payoneer should be ashamed of themselves with fees like that.

Charlie · 2010-10-14, 11:18 AM

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't charge two monthly fees for nothing. You could end up owing if you only use them for one fleeting sponsor that rarely converts.

I emailed them to find out if this is true before I activate my card.

Payoneer I'm talking about

ponyman · 2010-10-14, 02:58 PM

Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.

Charlie · 2010-10-14, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyman

Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.

Don't they also charge 2 monthly payments for min maint.? I'm waiting to hear back from them cause the card is in my hand and I'm ready to activate, but payments for doing nothing even the banks don't do any longer.

All the others they can justify so to speak I guess.

Ramster · 2010-10-14, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

Don't they also charge 2 monthly payments for min maint.? I'm waiting to hear back from them cause the card is in my hand and I'm ready to activate, but payments for doing nothing even the banks don't do any longer.

All the others they can justify so to speak I guess.

Justify? I don't think so.
The monthly account maintenance is BS like you said
$3.15 just to do a withdrawal at an ATM? Epassporte was $2.00.
$2.00 per load? I assume that means when you receive money/payments? That blows!
ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined... really?

This is a nice one. "Purchase Transaction Free" 3% above the market rate. So they charge you to make a purchase AND it's above market rate... nice.

They are a rip off.

A sponsor sends me $150 but I only get $148 due to their $2,00 load fee. Then i go to the ATM and take out $140 and they deduct $143.15 from my account. I'm out $5, that'll add it over time.

terry · 2010-10-14, 08:03 PM

Im with Ramster on this one.

pc · 2010-10-14, 08:28 PM

I'm curious if everybody sees the same pricing, or they can change/ them on individual basis. Prices/Fees I see (posted here) are just CRAZY

I also applied for their card , but now I don't think it's such a good idea.

dunc · 2010-10-14, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it.

Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it?

Westpac now do 4 cheques for $20 (same country)

Ms Naughty · 2010-10-14, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunc

Westpac now do 4 cheques for $20 (same country)

Really? Will have to look into that. Is it standard for them or do I need to do something to wrangle it?

Looked at Paxum, fees are better:
https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.p...iews/fees.xsl&

Vivaldi · 2010-10-15, 06:27 AM

With low fees that epass had I'm not sure anyone else would become dear to us :-)
It's good to have an alternative though that can (maybe) replace epass but the only thing that matters here is will the sponsors use it and witch one will it be!?
I mean what good are paxum's better fees if a fewer sponsors than payoneer use them?! Same with WesternUnion I'd love to use them but they need to jump in the game ... till them nothing.

RedCherry · 2010-10-15, 01:02 PM

I signed up for Payoneer through adult-empire, and my Card activation fee is less, only U.S. $9.95

And yea, they charge a load fee still, and monthly maintenance, but the cost is zero for purchases, what is what I plan to do with it.

Western Union would be cool, I'll drop a note on the AE board, and see if the owners will consider it.

RedCherry · 2010-10-15, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

western union has a setup similar to epassport

if sponsors started offering this as payment
it looks like it could be even better then epass

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB...name=HomePage#

I went to their fee page, to see how much they cost, and the only two countries they let you check on the cost to send money was US and Canada. Do they allow sponsors in other countries to send money?

Toby · 2010-10-15, 01:59 PM

I haven't yet looked at the fees, but I've seen a few large sponsors adding I-Payout as a payment option, and the available features seem to exceed what Payoneer, Paxum, et al are offering.

RedCherry · 2010-10-15, 02:58 PM

What sucks is everyone used epass, now we are going to end up with a bunch of different payout methods. I have a few out of country sponsors that have to do something other than check, and unless they all choose the same thing, it will be a bitch. And I don't make enough to get wires or ACH.

spookyx · 2010-10-15, 04:51 PM

The adult company I work for uses this to pay with https://www.ikobo.com/

-efreet- · 2010-10-15, 10:45 PM

http://wmtransfer.com/

15-10-2010: 307943 transactions, lol

http://ecoin.cc

looks like http://ecoin.cc is a cheapest fees in the net. Free internal transfers, 1.5$ ATM withdraw, and awesome limits! (4000$ daily)

So, why to not use this systems, why you need paxum, payoneer etc..
There is a tons of alternatives

dunc · 2010-10-16, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

Really? Will have to look into that. Is it standard for them or do I need to do something to wrangle it?

We just moved to Westpac - I went in and the bloke said $10 per cheque, I told him that was shit because St George do 3 for $16 and he said, hold on I'll check and came back with 4 for $20 - so maybe try that line and see how it goes

2010-10-13, 09:50 AM	#1
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	Epass Replacment western union has a setup similar to epassport if sponsors started offering this as payment it looks like it could be even better then epass http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB...name=HomePage# __________________ Accepting New partners

2010-10-13, 11:03 PM	#5
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it. Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it? __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2010-10-14, 08:28 AM	#6
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,680	- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded - Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe. - Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded - Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month - Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month - Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card - Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested - ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined - ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made - Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases * For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates. WOW. That is a LOT of fees. I won' be using them ever!! __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2010-10-14, 08:54 AM	#7
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	the reason i liked western union is that its a huge system .. Millions of people use it I also know the western union card is used by a lot of escorts __________________ Accepting New partners

2010-10-14, 10:05 AM	#8
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	O'm curious how any of them handle the $1000 lifetime max load on debit cards with the new Card Act. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2010-10-13, 04:18 PM	#2
ponyman Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 422	What about this Payoneer I keep reading about? Noticed FuckYouCash made an announcement they are going to offer payouts using Payoneer within the next 2 months.

2010-10-13, 05:56 PM	#3
petergg2 Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 63	I saw some offer paxum, I have singup for them on one sponsor, maybe they good to collect small payment's but that I will know after about few weeks (need get some payment, then apply for ccard and wait they come by post to me and then check it work )

2010-10-14, 10:26 AM	#9
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	Payoneer should be ashamed of themselves with fees like that. __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store

2010-10-14, 11:18 AM	#10
Charlie Oh! I haven't changed since high school and suddenly I am uncool Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 251	It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't charge two monthly fees for nothing. You could end up owing if you only use them for one fleeting sponsor that rarely converts. I emailed them to find out if this is true before I activate my card. Payoneer I'm talking about __________________ Trade Some Links/Swap Some Traffic thanks

2010-10-14, 02:58 PM	#11
ponyman Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 422	Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.

2010-10-14, 08:03 PM	#14
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	Im with Ramster on this one. __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store

2010-10-14, 08:28 PM	#15
pc Shift Out / X-On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: unknown Posts: 2,298	I'm curious if everybody sees the same pricing, or they can change/ them on individual basis. Prices/Fees I see (posted here) are just CRAZY I also applied for their card , but now I don't think it's such a good idea.

2010-10-15, 06:27 AM	#18
Vivaldi I don't have to be careful. I got a gun Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 367	With low fees that epass had I'm not sure anyone else would become dear to us :-) It's good to have an alternative though that can (maybe) replace epass but the only thing that matters here is will the sponsors use it and witch one will it be!? I mean what good are paxum's better fees if a fewer sponsors than payoneer use them?! Same with WesternUnion I'd love to use them but they need to jump in the game ... till them nothing. __________________ Quality Adult Sex ~ Net Sex Places ~ Naughty Free Porn

2010-10-15, 01:02 PM	#19
RedCherry Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Desert, Pahrump, NV Posts: 3,187	I signed up for Payoneer through adult-empire, and my Card activation fee is less, only U.S. $9.95 And yea, they charge a load fee still, and monthly maintenance, but the cost is zero for purchases, what is what I plan to do with it. Western Union would be cool, I'll drop a note on the AE board, and see if the owners will consider it. __________________ Our 3D Comics and Props on Renderotica

2010-10-15, 01:59 PM	#21
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	I haven't yet looked at the fees, but I've seen a few large sponsors adding I-Payout as a payment option, and the available features seem to exceed what Payoneer, Paxum, et al are offering. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2010-10-15, 02:58 PM	#22
RedCherry Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Desert, Pahrump, NV Posts: 3,187	What sucks is everyone used epass, now we are going to end up with a bunch of different payout methods. I have a few out of country sponsors that have to do something other than check, and unless they all choose the same thing, it will be a bitch. And I don't make enough to get wires or ACH. __________________ Our 3D Comics and Props on Renderotica

2010-10-15, 04:51 PM	#23
spookyx Kodak Ghosts Run Amok Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hobbs End Posts: 1,718	The adult company I work for uses this to pay with https://www.ikobo.com/

2010-10-15, 10:45 PM	#24
-efreet- Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 28	http://wmtransfer.com/ 15-10-2010: 307943 transactions, lol http://ecoin.cc looks like http://ecoin.cc is a cheapest fees in the net. Free internal transfers, 1.5$ ATM withdraw, and awesome limits! (4000$ daily) So, why to not use this systems, why you need paxum, payoneer etc.. There is a tons of alternatives Last edited by -efreet-; 2010-10-15 at 10:53 PM..