Not fully nude teens goes ?

[grzepa]

Hi

I have a problem . I have this sponsor that have a site with a teen girl (19 y/o) and she's undressing and all but dont show tits and pussy - category teens will be ok ?

[kristian]

Sure, teens is cool for it. You could add non nude in your description. FRom experience non nude teen gals always do extremely well, much better than hardcore or masterbation.

[kristian]

Opps, I think I misread. She is nude! Sorry! Still good and if she doesn't show tits and puss, I reckon it will still convert as well as non nude.

[grzepa]

thanks for the answer Kristian... well I think she is what you consider non nude

[Feynman]

Originally posted by kristian
Sure, teens is cool for it. You could add non nude in your description. FRom experience non nude teen gals always do extremely well, much better than hardcore or masterbation.

In what context do they do well? As paysite models? As TGP fodder? Where exactly ?

I have more teens model wannabe that want to model for me than I can handle.

Dozens of them and potentially hundred of them actually.

Only, I've choosen not to use them for fear of legal problems...

Most of the time, they lie about themselves, claim to be over 18 but also tell you that they've lost their ID, have to replace it, forgot it home, etc.

[kristian]

Originally posted by Feynman
In what context do they do well? As paysite models? As TGP fodder? Where exactly ?

I have more teens model wannabe that want to model for me than I can handle.

Dozens of them and potentially hundred of them actually.

Only, I've choosen not to use them for fear of legal problems...

Most of the time, they lie about themselves, claim to be over 18 but also tell you that they've lost their ID, have to replace it, forgot it home, etc.

Well, to answer your question on where such content does well, I can only suggest tgp and free site traffic, since I don't run paysites. I find that the market is oversaturated with teen content. Doesn't matter what niche, most of the models appear to be 18 or 19 (or so they would have us believe). So the lesser-used non nude models - teen in this case - elicit more impact due to their relative rarity. I've noticed there is now also a niche for fully clothed models; which, I guess, will see strong conversions for the above reasons.

As to your dilemma with shooting teen models, I can't really comment from experience. With the availability of fake ids, and the ability girls possess to make-up beyond their years, it would be a professional occupation I would shy away from.

[Feynman]

OK. So what do you sell on the TGPs, memberships to teen paysites?

IIRC, the new VISA policy at Verotel forbids teen sites, even fully clothed, even with no sexual innuendos.

Another question: would male teen sell ?

Mind you, I couldn't make the difference between a cute male teen and an ugly male teen if my life depended on it...


Also, do you know about sites like Domai.com ? Do they convert well?

They used to have only super babes, but I've been told that nowadays, they're featuring quasi-dogs ...

[kristian]

Originally posted by Feynman
OK. So what do you sell on the TGPs, memberships to teen paysites?

Yes, I upsell to sponsors with teen sites, using free trials and trials (trials work better for me than full memberships with this traffic.

Originally posted by Feynman

Another question: would male teen sell ?

Mind you, I couldn't make the difference between a cute male teen and an ugly male teen if my life depended on it...

I've never tried but I see no reason why not. Everything sells; the more obscure the better (not that male teens are rare). The gay market is something I haven't tried but, on line with above theories, I would imagine it covnerts well. At a guess, I would say a mixture of unblemished, blue-eyed baby-faced guys; and trendy, toned hungry-looking youths (how I'm NOT gay, I will never know! LOL).

Originally posted by Feynman

Also, do you know about sites like Domai.com ? Do they convert well?

They used to have only super babes, but I've been told that nowadays, they're featuring quasi-dogs ...

I've never promoted them, so I shouldn't really comment. I see a lot of them around though, so they must do well for many webmasters.

I have a thing about promiting reality. Glossy models just never convert well for me.

If I had a studio like you and all the equipment, I'd tell the girls to come to their audition as if they were going to visit their mom. I wouldnt want makeup or fancy clothes. I'd want to shoot real teenage girls doing real things. Those shots would sell more than any playboy shoot, guaranteed.

I'm probably not very helpful, but I hope I've shed some light from a webmaster's point of view.

[Feynman]

Originally posted by kristian
If I had a studio like you and all the equipment, I'd tell the girls to come to their audition as if they were going to visit their mom. I wouldnt want makeup or fancy clothes. I'd want to shoot real teenage girls doing real things. Those shots would sell more than any playboy shoot, guaranteed.
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Studio audition shoots tend to look all the same. It is intimidating to the girl (often their first time) and produces un-natural looks. Outdoor shoots are much better. They are more complicated though, usually requiring an assistant to hold the reflectors.


For makeup, I tell the girl to bring a makeup kit but not to apply any. Ditto for hairdo. Then, after a good look at them, I instruct them how to do it. I like minimal makeup. Most of the time, all I do is apply some eyeliner and transparent blot powder.

The blot powder is to cut the glossy oil of the skin and that't the only items of makeup I personally carry in my photokit; blot powder and a top quality application brush.

[Kezza]

We dont accept "non-nude" sites. We list porn

I think you need to look at the bigger picture if you are promoting "non-nude teens" and have another think

[kristian]

Originally posted by Kezza
We dont accept "non-nude" sites. We list porn

I think you need to look at the bigger picture if you are promoting "non-nude teens" and have another think

By that rationale, you would suggest that pornography is defined by complete nakedness. This is untrue. Pornography is sexually explicit pictures (or writing) whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal. Some men (and women) are more aroused by a model in bra and panties (or even fully clothed) than by all-out naked fuckfests. If you choose not to list non-nude models, that is obviously your choice, but your understanding of it's definition is wrong.

I hope you understand, I'm not trying to offend you, just to correct your misunderstanding of the term "porn". That's all

[Greenguy]

"panties" or "lingerie" if you're submitting to me

[Kezza]

Tis OK

Good luck with it.

[Kezza]

Sorry... I have always really liked you Kristian and I was just flippant.... I am sorry for that.

From what I know, I believe "Non-nude teen" is a strong term used in the search for child porn... just didnt want to say that on the boards I guess... and while I do list sites that have lingerie and sexiness.,.. I would certainly never promote any site as being "non-nude" It just goes against the grain. I may be wrong and shoot me if I am

[kristian]

Originally posted by Kezza
Sorry... I have always really liked you Kristian and I was just flippant.... I am sorry for that.

From what I know, I believe "Non-nude teen" is a strong term used in the search for child porn... just didnt want to say that on the boards I guess... and while I do list sites that have lingerie and sexiness.,.. I would certainly never promote any site as being "non-nude" It just goes against the grain. I may be wrong and shoot me if I am

That's okay, Kezza. I think you're wonderful, so no worries, my aussie buddy

Okay . . . if that's the case about the CP keywording, then yes, maybe non-nude is not the best term to use! I see what you mean now. I think lingerie or clothed models are fine to use - and even to submit to teen specific sites. But the wording has to be spot on or innocent webmasters can get into serious trouble. Easy thing to do is just promote mature! LOL

[Nickname]

yea, something like softcpre teens......

[dareutwo]

Agree with GG - Panties, Lingerie, Fetish, or Softcore.