Why don't more sponsors make free sites???

[Cleo]

Originally posted by Ramster
[b]Here a few hosted free sites as samples:
http://freesites.fetishhitsgallery.c...pps=fhniceporn

I would not list that one with the Enter link going right to the sponsor.

[Kezza]

Originally posted by graphicdude
After talking with a bunch of Link List Owners at a conference, we built up 50+ Hosted Free Sites.

Now they have been available for awhile, I am surprised at how few Link List owners have actually listed any of them...

We know they convert, cause some green person did well enough with them to get a $1,000 Bonus from us
Post

Many of the very Link List owners that advised us to build them, don't link to them?!?!?

http://www.howigotrich.com/hosted_freesites.htm

A free site submitter could do well with these too since they are so underexposed.

Currently, we get a much better ROI on other promotional efforts. But, we are building a second batch of Hosted Free Sites with even more input from Link List owners. Hope they get listed in more places than the current Hosted Free Sites.

Well for me it has been a happy relationship.. no sex... no marriage commitments.. but a jolly nice cheque each month... and golly.....a great bonus...

Cheers guys!!! Nice free sites that work well

[Celine]

Yes, we had several discussions about that these past months...
Following your comments, we did built some free sites...
We decided to implement a zip & a hosted version so that we match at best our affiliate needs...

http://banners.toteme.com/site1/?ids...le=YourWebSite
http://banners.toteme.com/site1/?ids...le=YourWebSite
http://banners.toteme.com/site1/?ids...le=YourWebSite
(Change "YourWebSite" for a name of your choice)

They are done in 3 pages:
- disclaimer
- one main page with all models (by letters)
- one page per model with 2 gallery links on it (either 2 VirtuaGirl2 photo galleries or 1 VirtuaGirl2 photo gallery + 1 OneGirladay Video gallery when available) or a direct link to the site.

Accessible here !

Any suggestions?
Cheers

[Greenguy]

Celine - I'm not sure who built those for you, but they are grossly misinformed as those are NOT what Link Lists define as "free sites"

A Free Site, in it's most basic form, is a warning page followed by a main page that links to 2 galleries with 10 pics in each. Some Free Sites have 3 galleries, some have more then 10 pics per page, but none look like the ones you posted

Here's a couple examples of what I feel are decent Hosted Free Sites:

http://sammy4u.com/tgp/new/freesites...?nats=NDc6NDox - from Sammy Smack
http://sites.smoothkittens.com/hfs/a...shavers/?blamo - from Outback Cash
http://www.bustycafe.net/freesites/c....php?id=100170 - from NS Cash
http://www.katvixen.com/HFS/busty_re...ead.php?256287 - from Kat Cash
http://www.phoenixxxblaque.com/frees...?ccbill=335857 - from How I Got Rich
http://foxy-angel-shemale-promotions...dex.php?657466 - from Foxy Angel
http://www.forthegirls.com/s04/s09/index.html?501671 - from Purple Dollars
http://amateur-facials.com/freesites...ny.html?581222 - from AF Dollars

There's a lot more, but that will give you an idea of what Link List owners are looking for

[Celine]

Thanks Greenguy !
Link lists will not list them, you think?
In fact, we just need to get the warning page link to each model page that has 2 galleries each... so we get warning + main page with link to 2 galleries...

Thanks!

[Greenguy]

Yes, a warning page in front of http://banners.toteme.com/site1/?ids...le=YourWebSite would be good. But make it a unique warning page - one that fits with the pics of the model & the color scheme of the site.

And get rid of the links that open in new windows - most of us don't allow those

[gideon]

I noticed that no one ever mentions Sweet Money. They have new HFS all the time. I know cause I build some of them.

here is a full listing of the ones currently available

http://895.abbraxaporn.com/?r=your-code
http://896.abbraxaporn.com/?r=your-code
http://897.abbraxaporn.com/?r=your-code
http://898.abbraxaporn.com/?r=your-code
http://899.abbraxaporn.com/?r=your-code
http://900.angelsofpornvideo.com/?r=your-code
http://916.angelsofpornvideo.com/?r=your-code
http://930.angelsofpornvideo.com/?r=your-code
http://943.angelsofpornvideo.com/?r=your-code
http://946.angelsofpornvideo.com/?r=your-code
http://901.buttcam.com/?r=your-code
http://917.buttcam.com/?r=your-code
http://931.buttcam.com/?r=your-code
http://933.buttcam.com/?r=your-code
http://947.buttcam.com/?r=your-code
http://903.fistinglessons.com/?r=your-code
http://919.fistinglessons.com/?r=your-code
http://922.fistinglessons.com/?r=your-code
http://935.fistinglessons.com/?r=your-code
http://949.fistinglessons.com/?r=your-code
http://968.IJC.com/?r=your-code
http://904.jakebustsnuts.com/?r=your-code
http://920.jakebustsnuts.com/?r=your-code
http://923.jakebustsnuts.com/?r=your-code
http://936.jakebustsnuts.com/?r=your-code
http://950.jakebustsnuts.com/?r=your-code
http://905.maxhardcoreporn.com/?r=your-code
http://921.maxhardcoreporn.com/?r=your-code
http://924.maxhardcoreporn.com/?r=your-code
http://937.maxhardcoreporn.com/?r=your-code
http://951.maxhardcoreporn.com/?r=your-code
http://906.misspain.com/?r=your-code
http://911.misspain.com/?r=your-code
http://925.misspain.com/?r=your-code
http://938.misspain.com/?r=your-code
http://952.misspain.com/?r=your-code
http://907.peelover.com/?r=your-code
http://912.peelover.com/?r=your-code
http://926.peelover.com/?r=your-code
http://939.peelover.com/?r=your-code
http://953.peelover.com/?r=your-code
http://908.sweetauditions.com/?r=your-code
http://913.sweetauditions.com/?r=your-code
http://927.sweetauditions.com/?r=your-code
http://940.sweetauditions.com/?r=your-code
http://954.sweetauditions.com/?r=your-code
http://909.sweetloads.com/?r=your-code
http://914.sweetloads.com/?r=your-code
http://928.sweetloads.com/?r=your-code
http://941.sweetloads.com/?r=your-code
http://944.sweetloads.com/?r=your-code
http://977.sweetloads.com/?r=your-code
http://910.sadoslaves.com/?r=your-code
http://915.sadoslaves.com/?r=your-code
http://929.sadoslaves.com/?r=your-code
http://942.sadoslaves.com/?r=your-code
http://945.sadoslaves.com/?r=your-code
http://902.thedirtyoldman.com/?r=your-code
http://918.thedirtyoldman.com/?r=your-code
http://932.thedirtyoldman.com/?r=your-code
http://934.thedirtyoldman.com/?r=your-code
http://948.thedirtyoldman.com/?r=your-code
http://975.thedirtyoldman.com/?r=your-code

[Mateusz]

Originally posted by gideon
I noticed that no one ever mentions Sweet Money. They have new HFS all the time. I know cause I build some of them.

Maybe becouse of adult content (in fact another link to your site) on 'leave' link

[gideon]

What are you talking about? I am not affiliated with Sweet Money so there is no "leave" link to my site.. whatever that means. Maybe something was lost in translation..

I just meant they were good sites for link lists... not sure what you are shooting for with your off the wall comment

[Mateusz]

Ok, pardon me.. I mean there is their (adult) page linked to exit button. Don't you really see nothing unnormal in this? So why the hell they placing '*** WARNING ***' there?

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by gideon
I noticed that no one ever mentions Sweet Money.

There's a lot of programs that have HFS that are not mentioned in this thread - so why

& there really was no need to post a list of their sites

[gideon]

Yeah I thought about not posting them all but then I thought I may get even more grief by just posting a link to a page with the list. Sorry about that .. I tried to edit the post to get rid of the list but its past the 60minute limit.

Peace
- Gideon

[gideon]

Mateusz - You are correct my apologies for not understanding. I brought the subject up to Sweet Money and I am awaiting their reply. The "exit" link should never lead to another pron related site in my opion. Sorry for the misunderstanding.



- Gideon

[DangerDave]

Someone needs to tell Sweet Money to drop the "leave" links.... linking them to the promoted site sucks..;(

DD

[maxsweet]

Hey guys - gideon pointed me to this thread. I totally understand what you mean about our free sites.
When they were built the exit link was going to google but it seems our programmer
decided its better this way without knowing the business lol

They will be fixed today. One questions though:

Better to link the exit link to google or to leave it out altogether?

thx for the feedback!

[Porn Meister]

I would leave it out altogether, BUT tell them to press their BACK button NOW if they dont agree to your terms.

2 wee lil cents.

[LeeNoga]

We have them [see sig] , free hosted sites and I do not know if they suck or not they were around before Q and I were employed a month ago...but new ones are coming..

If they do suck, where did we error, so we can do next lot CORRECTLY from this point forward.

GG, are you using our free hosted sites? Your conversions are nice, BTW...considering...

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by LeeNoga
If they do suck, where did we error, so we can do next lot CORRECTLY from this point forward.

Too many graphics ( I saw 71 images load on one of the pages)

Not enough sales text (actualy, there's basicaly no sales text)

Only 8 pics per page & 16 for the site (most Link Lists require 10/20)

No title's or theme's for the sites (they help a lot on the Free Site game)

Vid caps (most suck as far as quality)

No, I'm not using them

[LeeNoga]

GG, thank-you DO much for the feedback because I needed an expert to go over the problems.

XBang just hired a Chief Designer inhouse who stats Feb 2nd who has alot of experience in adult to manage the design team.

The promo tools were done way before they hired Q and myself on board.

What is wonderful about XBang, is they have heavily resourced and can correct things once identified...they spare NO expense.

Your punchlist was exactly what we needed ! XBang wants things done 110% the way webmasters want them..and they want to oveload the webmaster with promo tools...

THANK-YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Hee Hee*, once XBang gets a couple of months under the feet, we will all giggle about this convo...there is no question XBang is gonna be a Top 5 preferred sponsor once they work out their launch kinks.

I am sorry you had to make your own promo tools for us but your converting nicely.

Is there a good place I can get a sample to submit to the design dept?

[Greenguy]

You know, I was a little scared about ripping the HFS's apart like that, but I knew you'd want to know why they sucked

I posted some examples of what I think are good HFS's above, but here they are again

Originally posted by Greenguy
Here's a couple examples of what I feel are decent Hosted Free Sites:

http://sammy4u.com/tgp/new/freesites...?nats=NDc6NDox - from Sammy Smack
http://sites.smoothkittens.com/hfs/a...shavers/?blamo - from Outback Cash
http://www.bustycafe.net/freesites/c....php?id=100170 - from NS Cash
http://www.katvixen.com/HFS/busty_re...ead.php?256287 - from Kat Cash
http://www.phoenixxxblaque.com/frees...?ccbill=335857 - from How I Got Rich
http://foxy-angel-shemale-promotions...dex.php?657466 - from Foxy Angel
http://www.forthegirls.com/s04/s09/index.html?501671 - from Purple Dollars
http://amateur-facials.com/freesites...ny.html?581222 - from AF Dollars

[docholly]

Chop has some nice ones too:

http://chopsmiths.com/rosetara01/index.php?865141

Well organized by dates and good layouts easy navigation..

plus his content isn't overused.. so there is great variety.

|rasta|

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Greenguy
You know, I was a little scared about ripping the HFS's apart like that, but I knew you'd want to know why they sucked

Oh GG, heaven no do not ever be scared to tell it how it is. I took the whole thing as very valuable information and already got a response from our design team and the owner of XBang. They REALLY appreciated this feedback and thank-you so very much.

This is what they needed, I have NO idea who advised them on how to do the ones they did but clearly the advice left alot to be desired.

XBang, is gonna jump on this feedback and come back with promo tools that will get your nod!

If we do not work together what kind of relationship would we have? If you are not given the promo tools that work, we have let you down, and thats not the business we are in.

We can fix our promo tools but we cannot fix broken relationships, and we value everyones business and will always fulfill requests if it makes a webmaster's job easier and more profitable.

I guarantee XBang gonna jump on the new free hosted site issues, ASAP now that they have excellent guidance from the board full of Masters!

THANK-YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank-you to all those that showed us more examples. The investment in us will be worth it to you :-)

[Greenguy]

If you want us to review a few test sites, just post'em & the Link List owners around here will be quick to make snide comments

[LeeNoga]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

If you want us to review a few test sites, just post'em & the Link List owners around here will be quick to make snide comments

Our company is still buzzing with all the great feedback on the free sites.

Now, we need somebody to tear apart our Hosted Galleries in the same fashion .

Any TGP or MGP webmasters around??

[MrMaryLou]

Originally Posted by LeeNoga

Our company is still buzzing with all the great feedback on the free sites.

Now, we need somebody to tear apart our Hosted Galleries in the same fashion .

Any TGP or MGP webmasters around??

Just taking a peek at them they all are off center and have a weak if any sales text