Traffic building

[LD]

I would like to learn methods of building mainstream traffic. Writing articles has been mentioned, but what other methods are available?

In adult, I was able to build a good amount of traffic when I started building freesites, and this is still one of the best ways to get targeted traffic IMO.

So what about mainstream?

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by LD

In adult, I was able to build a good amount of traffic when I started building freesites, and this is still one of the best ways to get targeted traffic IMO.

That is what has me stumped too. It's not like I can build free sites to promote mainstream products.

Does mainstream do some form of link trades like is done in Linkspun?

[hashbury]

There are many ways to build traffic in mainstream. The best is good ole organic SE traffic. Buying traffic is my second favorite traffic method followed by article traffic. Youtube traffic is also very good followed by other video sites and forums that are related to your niche.

From what I have learned in the past 6 months or so, to do very good keyword research before promoting something. Exact match domains are very good for targeting SE traffic.

Heres a video I made a while back about doing some keyword research. http://pronichefinder.com/Expired_Domains/ Not very good but it will give you an idea on how to research keywords.

The way I drive traffic is by doing my research, Lets say I want to promote an anti virus program. I would use market samurai or googles keyword tool to get some keyword ideas on anti virus software. I would look for something with at least 1000 exact monthly searches or more. I would also look for lower competition, by putting quotes around the keyword in google. If the results are less than 20000 it would be a go for me. I would also look at the top three sites listed for that keyword and hope they are something I could outrank. Thne I would register an exact match domain as the keyword either .org .net or .com.

I would write a nice long presell type of article (500+ words) for the landing page of the site. Its important to have a very good presell article on the landing page of the site. You want it to mention the keywords of your site several times with a 2 to 3% keyword density. Most of the traffic is going to go to this landing page.

I would then do keyword research for articles. I make sure that the article would be closely related to anti virus and have a min of 100 or 200 exact monthly searches. I will also make sure the competition is below 20000. I try to write around ten articles when starting a new site out. I use wordpress for most my sites so I sticky the presell article to the homepage and list the articles below it.

Once all of the articles are indexed by google, I start the article marketing part. I have a program called article marketing robot that will submit my articles to hundreds of directories, but to start I just used a handful of article directories. I would create an author sig for my articles at the bottom and put the links back to my site using the keyword I want to rank my site for. Sometimes if my site is already ranking for a keyword I would put something like see the original article here using the article title as a backlink to the article page.

This will drive some traffic to your site, but not tons. The next step is to turn your articles into videos. You can simply read your article and throw some pretty background stuff in it and submit it to youtube or any other video sites.

This will get the traffic to start trickling in, but another advantage of article marketing is syndication. When you submit your article to the directories a lot of blog owners will come there looking for articles to put on thier blog. They will see yours and list it on their site hopefully. What I like to do is search the web for my articles monthly to see who is syndicating them. When I find someone syndicating them, I will contact them and ask if they would let me be a guest blogger for them. I tell them I will give them my new articles before any article directories will have them. For me, this has been one of my best sources of traffic besides google.

After going through all of this work you should get a decent placement in google for your keyword(s) and have some organic traffic along with article and video traffic. For me its all in the keyword research. You find that right buying keyword that has traffic and is easy to rank for.

[plateman]

Originally Posted by Cleo

That is what has me stumped too. It's not like I can build free sites to promote mainstream products.

Does mainstream do some form of link trades like is done in Linkspun?

well for the mainstream stuff you want to promote se traffic should be your main goal IMO - well some may say I dont know any so I can not make this work - Wrong everyone still posting has it built into them and some dont even know it...

you just buy a domain, pick 4 words relevant with what your gonna start in and build a site on the root, 1 to whatever pages and just try and stay relevant and give your own unique opinion and then try and find sites that are again relevant to hard link trade with...and se traffic will come give it some time, and if it shows some promise then work the niches like in all the stuff that goes toghter with what your promoting and branch out and build a hub of good se traffic

In automotive I have found that porn is so very the same its nuts

[plateman]

Originally Posted by hashbury

There are many ways to build traffic in mainstream. The best is good ole organic SE traffic. Buying traffic is my second favorite traffic method followed by article traffic. Youtube traffic is also very good followed by other video sites and forums that are related to your niche.

From what I have learned in the past 6 months or so, to do very good keyword research before promoting something. Exact match domains are very good for targeting SE traffic.

Heres a video I made a while back about doing some keyword research. http://pronichefinder.com/Expired_Domains/ Not very good but it will give you an idea on how to research keywords.

The way I drive traffic is by doing my research, Lets say I want to promote an anti virus program. I would use market samurai or googles keyword tool to get some keyword ideas on anti virus software. I would look for something with at least 1000 exact monthly searches or more. I would also look for lower competition, by putting quotes around the keyword in google. If the results are less than 20000 it would be a go for me. I would also look at the top three sites listed for that keyword and hope they are something I could outrank. Thne I would register an exact match domain as the keyword either .org .net or .com.

I would write a nice long presell type of article (500+ words) for the landing page of the site. Its important to have a very good presell article on the landing page of the site. You want it to mention the keywords of your site several times with a 2 to 3% keyword density. Most of the traffic is going to go to this landing page.

I would then do keyword research for articles. I make sure that the article would be closely related to anti virus and have a min of 100 or 200 exact monthly searches. I will also make sure the competition is below 20000. I try to write around ten articles when starting a new site out. I use wordpress for most my sites so I sticky the presell article to the homepage and list the articles below it.

Once all of the articles are indexed by google, I start the article marketing part. I have a program called article marketing robot that will submit my articles to hundreds of directories, but to start I just used a handful of article directories. I would create an author sig for my articles at the bottom and put the links back to my site using the keyword I want to rank my site for. Sometimes if my site is already ranking for a keyword I would put something like see the original article here using the article title as a backlink to the article page.

This will drive some traffic to your site, but not tons. The next step is to turn your articles into videos. You can simply read your article and throw some pretty background stuff in it and submit it to youtube or any other video sites.

This will get the traffic to start trickling in, but another advantage of article marketing is syndication. When you submit your article to the directories a lot of blog owners will come there looking for articles to put on thier blog. They will see yours and list it on their site hopefully. What I like to do is search the web for my articles monthly to see who is syndicating them. When I find someone syndicating them, I will contact them and ask if they would let me be a guest blogger for them. I tell them I will give them my new articles before any article directories will have them. For me, this has been one of my best sources of traffic besides google.

After going through all of this work you should get a decent placement in google for your keyword(s) and have some organic traffic along with article and video traffic. For me its all in the keyword research. You find that right buying keyword that has traffic and is easy to rank for.

hash we gonna kick some ass thats 1 reason why I started all this to see where our friends are going in order to network and seo reasons

[Maj. Stress]

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[Lemmy]

Originally Posted by hashbury

There are many ways to build traffic in mainstream. (...)You find that right buying keyword that has traffic and is easy to rank for.

That is one of the most helpful and informative posts I have ever read. Great info for someone who only knows how to build FS and LL to generate traffic and wants to give mainstream a try. I'm bookmarking that post. Thanks bro!

[HowlingWulf]

That's good info hash. Here's my initial thoughts.

Damn that sounds like work. Not mindless grunt work like adult, where I can whip up a site for anything whether I like the topic or not.

In mainstream, I'd have to think of and research the articles to write for topics like teeth whitening, 6 pack abs, designer shoes, acai berry, whatever it is. Right?

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

Damn that sounds like work. Not mindless grunt work like adult, where I can whip up a site for anything whether I like the topic or not.

In mainstream, I'd have to think of and research the articles to write for topics like teeth whitening, 6 pack abs, designer shoes, acai berry, whatever it is. Right?

That's what I was thinking.

(Picturing myself sending hours learning about male sports enhancing whatever as my eyes are glazing over)

[hashbury]

It is work but the thing is with mainstream you can pick almost any niche. If you pick something you like or atleast know about, it makes it real easy to pop out articles. Even if you dont know about something, you can spend a half day learning about it and then be able to spit out articles real easy.

Another thing is that you can outsource most of the work. If you dont want to write articles outsource it to someone or some company. However, I really feel that you should write your own articles to begin with so that you know what is going to bring in the money and what is not going to. Dragon natuarally speaking is great for article writing if you a slow typer.

You can outsource almost every aspect of mainstream stuff, and this should be your end goal. You can get article writers, article submitters, video makers and submitters.

[LD]

So it sounds like keywords are the 'seeds', or the core so to speak. A thread on keywords would be cool.

But one nagging question....why don't we just do this in adult? I guess adult is overly saturated with certain keywords...(?)

Oh, and one other nagging question: regarding keywords, is market samurai any good?

[hashbury]

For me the keyword part was the holy grail. Once I was able to do proper keyword research I was able to make money.

Market samurai is great, however I would not buy it because it has a free trial that will let you get used to it. After the free trial you can also still retreive the amount of searches per month and the competition of the keywords. Thats really all you need to start. You should always do a check and see what sites are ranking for your keyword.

I plan on starting a keyword thread, but Im am just waiting till I get some more time.

[Cleo]

Ok.. seems like I would do best doing something that I know a little bit about and have some interest in, at least in the beginning.

So say I decide to try to sell ocean kayaking supples.

I guess I would start a kayaking blog where I talk about the sport and review kayaking products and maybe talk about my own kayaking adventures. Does this sound correct?

I guess the first step would be to find kayaking equipment that I can link to using affiliate codes. I know I could do this using Amazon links but I have no idea where to start looking for other places that have affiliate programs for kayaking gear. Is Amazon even a good choice to use?

Do I need to just start looking at what other sites are using s sponsors or is there a list of mainstream sponsors someplace?

[Maj. Stress]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Ok.. seems like I would do best doing something that I know a little bit about and have some interest in, at least in the beginning.

So say I decide to try to sell ocean kayaking supples.

I guess I would start a kayaking blog where I talk about the sport and review kayaking products and maybe talk about my own kayaking adventures. Does this sound correct? That's the best way to start. Just write about your own experiences and what products you like, etc.

I guess the first step would be to find kayaking equipment that I can link to using affiliate codes. I know I could do this using Amazon links but I have no idea where to start looking for other places that have affiliate programs for kayaking gear. Is Amazon even a good choice to use? Amazon doesn't pay very well but you can always start with adsense until you find a product to promote.

Do I need to just start looking at what other sites are using s sponsors or is there a list of mainstream sponsors someplace? Let me look around and see what I can find for you. I might have a place or two that has something in that area.

pm coming your way

[Lemmy]

I've had this link in my bookmarks forever. I don't know if it's a good or a bad place, but they have tons of affiliate programs and many other mainstream marketing resources.

[LD]

On blogs, do you use something like random post generator for the articles? I am just wondering about the blog setup. Is it 'set and forget' where you write 20 articles and rotate them? Or do you keep fresh articles coming indefinitely?

[hashbury]

The only blogs I set and forget are the ones that dont do well. What I do is write ten post and put them all up at once. Once everything is indexed I will submit to the artcle directories. Then I will drip feed the other 10 post over the next 3 to 4 weeks.

Submitting them all to article directories after they have been indexed on my site. Within about 90 days of starting the site I will know if it is worth it to keep adding new articles every week or to move on. I dont rotate any of the articles, but I do make sure I sticky a nice presell post. This way anyone that comes to the main page will see it first.

[LD]

Great info!

[Fonz]

Not sure if it has been brought up but there's a mainstream version of linkspun -> www.tradespun.com

It looks like there aren't that many sites in the system yet but it's a start...