Define a quality post

[walrus]

I'd like to hear what others think would make up a quality post. We all feel that sponsors feeds suck for the most part but I would counter that most bloggers suck.

As a group, if we can't define what it is we're looking for then sponsors that do want to provide quality feeds are left with a moving target to try and shoot at because I can tell you, what I am really looking for in a blog or a feed is going to be different than the next guy.

[T Pat]

1, catchy title
2, relevant paragraph of 250 words or more with some good sales text
3, one photo

[DistantD]

I agree with T Pat. I think catchy title and some good personable text are most important.

[Ms Naughty]

Depends on who your audience is, of course, and what your goals are.

If the point of your blog is only to sell memberships via posts, then what T Pat describes is probably fine.

My initial thoughts on a quality post is a bit different. I was thinking it's one that catches the surfer's interest, induces them to stay around for a while (and perhaps click on your ads), but it's also one that will be linked to by other blogs, one that can take on a life of its own and help build up your traffic.

But my blogs aren't just splogs so my goals are a bit different. I still do promo posts, but I also do a lot of plain bloggy posts designed to get traffic and/or loyal readers.

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by walrus

I'd like to hear what others think would make up a quality post. We all feel that sponsors feeds suck for the most part but I would counter that most bloggers suck.

As a group, if we can't define what it is we're looking for then sponsors that do want to provide quality feeds are left with a moving target to try and shoot at because I can tell you, what I am really looking for in a blog or a feed is going to be different than the next guy.

I can tell already the opinions here will vary widely. If you are a splogger (nothing at all wrong with that) then I bet Tpat's would fit perfectly.
If on the other hand you blog then your needs might vary wildly. I will tell you what I do find unusable, however.
Solo girl personality sites with long descriptions of sexual escapades, or fashion descriptions, with no personality in it. I don't care that the girl just took on a 20 man train, because I don't have anything personal about her. Just the sex, and there are 1000 of them out there just like her. How can I write a post on her if I have nothing to work with, besides the 250 word description of how she took on a 20 guy train, or double anal, or whatever, and a huge pic that I must resize?
I mean..."Ooo! I had to put cute little bootsy the cat out on the patio because she really hates it when I have these orgies. Last orgy she ate my gerbils out of spite". Would be something to work with!
So if you are selling a personality feed, a personality would be nice. I always lean toward anything that has a personality, even an abrasive one.
I would like to see feeds that had material I could work with to give the site or the girl a distinctive feel. Right now I am scouring tours for any hint of distinctiveness to blog on, and to use as sidebar features.
In conclusion I would like to emphasize, I am prepared to do my own writing. I just need the raw material.
Sorry Walrus, that I could not give you exact requirements, but my voice is only one among many.

[walrus]

No need to apologize Chimera, it's opinions I'm looking for and I am intentionally holding back my opinion so as not to influence the responses in any way. Eventually, I'll post them. Like I sort of started out...how can we as a community bitch about sponsor feeds if we really do no better.

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by walrus

No need to apologize Chimera, it's opinions I'm looking for and I am intentionally holding back my opinion so as not to influence the responses in any way. Eventually, I'll post them. Like I sort of started out...how can we as a community bitch about sponsor feeds if we really do no better.

...and I suspect a few might be holding back their opinions, waiting on yours. Sad to say, but even comma challenged as I am, my feeds are better than most sponsors.

[walrus]

Originally Posted by Chimera

...and I suspect a few might be holding back their opinions, waiting on yours. Sad to say, but even comma challenged as I am, my feeds are better than most sponsors.

Ahhh don't worry about the comma's, I've been told UW's boxers have commas on them so it was actually an off-color comment.

[johnnybg]

Originally Posted by walrus

how can we as a community bitch about sponsor feeds if we really do no better.

Exactly!

There are some things that don't need to be automated, and blog posts are one of those.

I'm amazed how much affiliates expect from sponsors. First, there was free promo content. OK, that's fine. It's like a preview of what's inside sponsors membership areas. Then pre-made banners. That's ok too... Then pre-made text links! Then hosted galleries, then hosted sites... The list goes on. Now pre-made blog posts are here and they are "of low quality".

Cmon! What's wrong with actually doing some work? Why don't we all sit back and receive checks, let the sponsors do all the work? It doesn't make sense to me.

[Halfdeck]

Signs of a quality post:

- Clicks from the post converts consistently at 1:100 or below
- People quote you
- Authority blogs link to your post
- Many people leave comments

We all feel that sponsors feeds suck for the most part but I would counter that most bloggers suck.

Most people aren't bloggers; they take advantage of the blogging platform to generate sales. Blogging is something completely different.

[Greenguy]

I don't know much about blogging (and my blog is gonna be personal & not adult) but I'd think that posts based on (or at least pretending) personal experiences/preferences would be best.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's the text that make blogs what they are & since the surfer is (hopefully) there to read about the site your promoting before they see a sample gallery/freesite or tour, your text should have a personal feel to it.

(you guys & gals are gonna love me, because I know nothing aobut blogs - lol)

[Fonz]

Blogging IMO is like keeping a diary, I don't know many blogs that do the diary thing, most of them, including mine , are just ad after ad after ad. A good example of how a blog is supposed to be is Cleo's blog.

Blogging is a hobby, not a business

[redglow]

I would say, as Walrus is talking about sponsors feeds for blogs, that my normal standard for a quality post is different than my answer to this post.
Noone could, or should, ask for any sponsor to write them the long personal
blog entries, would not be a feed if they did lol... but I agree, sponsor feeds are bad for most parts.
How much can you expect from a sponsor? In my opinion the sponsors giving away the blog feeds on top of all other promotion stuff are feeding webmasters almost oo much, soon noone have to do "anything" to get a domain filled, it be galleries, freesites (though they suck as bad as the blog feeds lol) and the feeds... yeah and of course the banners and promotion pics, video clips and so on.

But, IF sponsors are offering feeds, they should be offering feeds webmasters can and will use... If not, it's just money down the drain. Putting down a lot of time and money to offer feeds they should at least make feeds that
a: webmasters want to use
b: have enough text for the spiders
c: have text that catches the surfer, and keeping him at your site
d: have text and pics that makes the surfer want to see more, maybe
even pay to get access to the content.

Linking single words (a lot of guys would click on the word "pussy" if it was linked to something, it's human nature to be curious) could be a smart move.
Having text that actually fits the picture AND the site the links leads to would be nice. (I don't give a damn if the girl on the pic got the hawtest ass on this side of the milkyway if the paysite the surfer will see shows no hot asses on the first page......)
A better variety of words used in the different feeds, as it is now, you can have sponsor feeds making your blog sound almost the same in each post. A blog feed is not the same as 8 long descriptions for a gallery put together....... That makes no sense to me, and will not make any sense to the surfer visiting my site.

So, guess T Pats description fits well in my eyes for a sponsor feed, all though that don't come close to what I would call a quality post in any way..... But guess we are talking about FEEDS not POSTS here, in my eyes that's two different things... If you're looking for quality, personal, unique (fill in any other words you can think of), then write your own stuff

Guess my point is, nothing comes for free in this world, and even though
sponsors could and should do a lot better on this than they are, we can't ask for any miracles.......

Sorry for the long answer, probably not making any sense to anyone but myself lol |badidea|


Edit: damn k-key on my keyboard gets stuck lol

[DistantD]

Chimera,
you make a great point about the girls personality. There are many days I spend an hour or more looking at a photo I want to include in my post, and try to think of what I could write about it.
The hardest thing is to envision a personality of the girl or girls in the photo and say more than "wow, she is a hot little nymph".
Sometimes I find I start searching multiple sponsors for the same girl just so I can get a variety of photos of her. Which leads me to another thought... I wish sponsors allowed you to search for galleries by "actress name"... would make it simpler for these types of projects.

[johnnybg]

Originally Posted by redglow

But guess we are talking about FEEDS not POSTS here, in my eyes that's two different things... I

Walrus asked this:"I'd like to hear what others think would make up a quality POST" and stated that sponsor feeds are bad.

This is what I believe - to make a sale off an adult blog post you need to have proper sales text. Pre-sales text, to be more precise.

There are several things I also believe are true:
1. Personal touch, unique language and copywriting skills are essential for good pre-sales pitch.
2. Personal touch and unique language makes people bookmark and return.
3. If people wanted to see bunch of pictures without words they'd go to TGP
4. RSS feeds are meant to be read by RSS readers and not to make other blogs
5. With everyone and their mothers blogging, people can tell a BS blog from a "good" one
6. When you work hard on your blog, it shows. When you don't - it shows even more
7. If you want to make a splog - do it the right way. Don't just redisplay sponsors posts and pretend they are yours. Customize them by adding your words and pitch. Some of the biggest blogs around the Net do that

[Special "Ed"]

Originally Posted by walrus

I'd like to hear what others think would make up a quality post. We all feel that sponsors feeds suck for the most part but I would counter that most bloggers suck.

As a group, if we can't define what it is we're looking for then sponsors that do want to provide quality feeds are left with a moving target to try and shoot at because I can tell you, what I am really looking for in a blog or a feed is going to be different than the next guy.

When we put our blogs together, we wanted to avoid the fake looking short story aspect. Its easy to do a blog with a "personality" site. Its much easier even when that person is actually writing it! Obviously, when there isn't a "real person" behind the blog, then it becomes a real task to develop the blog into something that is worth viewing but it can be done. Check out some of our blogs and how we handled them.


These are personality based blogs with real people behind them.

http://www.my-sex-life.com/blogs/feed/?id=555555
http://www.wackmymeat.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.realtampaswingers.com/blo...rss2&id=555555
http://www.watchourwives.com/blogs/feed/?id=555555
http://www.sweetcumgirl.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.sweetcamgirl.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.wam-girls.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555

These are blogs where there is NOT someone real behind them. We try to do the best we can for the surfer without sounding to "dry"

http://www.fuckmegrandpa.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.petiteblondewife.com/blog...rss2&id=555555
http://www.ilovesmalltits.com/blogs/...rss2&id=555555
http://www.hotbitchhigh.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.pureabuse.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555

[sue-fl]

I like personal blogs and tend to click out of sponsor feed blogs. The only thing with my blog is keeping it interesting which with my life isn't easy to do.

When surfing for blogs to read I like
a personal touch
catchy story/text
one pic or movie that goes with the post

My blog doesn't have decent traffic or many comments yet. I'm thinking of a way of mixing up it some without loosing the somewhat personal aspect of it. It's easy to slap a sponsor blog up but maintaining a personal one is a lot harder.

Just my two cents

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by Fonz

Blogging IMO is like keeping a diary, I don't know many blogs that do the diary thing, most of them, including mine , are just ad after ad after ad. A good example of how a blog is supposed to be is Cleo's blog.

Blogging is a hobby, not a business

I've stayed out of this conversation because I really don't know what would go into a good sponsor feed, my opinion is much like Fonz's - my blog is more of a hobby than anything I will make money from right now.

Originally Posted by sue-fl

My blog doesn't have decent traffic or many comments yet. I'm thinking of a way of mixing up it some without loosing the somewhat personal aspect of it. It's easy to slap a sponsor blog up but maintaining a personal one is a lot harder.

I totally agree with you here, Sue. I've been trying to make my blog more 'commercial' but it just ends up looking spammy when I do, just because of the nature of the blog. I'm just keeping it personal for now, as I really don't have too much time to spend looking for things to go into it.

I did use some blog feeds for another site & I really liked it, the best thing I can come up with is the same as everyone else - lots of good text and a nice pic. Also it would have to be regularly updated too.

[walrus]

Not as many different answers as I thought there would be. For a blog, I think it is important to develop what I call a voice or a persona. A consistency that creates trust and gains bookmarks. I believe in using "soft sell" techniques in a blog.

Rather than a post being full of sales text, it should generate an interest in the topic. The title, text and visuals should draw the surfer to his final destination....the sponsor.

It can be done with a few short sentences so I'd never look at word count as a defining element in quality.

The title....grabs the surfers attention

text....works in conjunction with the title to further raise the surfers curiosity

the visual...the picture compliments the two above and acts as a tease.

White space is your friend. I don't use it enough myself but many people wont read big paragraphs. They skim over them. But break it up and it becomes much more readable

[walrus]

Originally Posted by Special "Ed"

When we put our blogs together, we wanted to avoid the fake looking short story aspect. Its easy to do a blog with a "personality" site. Its much easier even when that person is actually writing it! Obviously, when there isn't a "real person" behind the blog, then it becomes a real task to develop the blog into something that is worth viewing but it can be done. Check out some of our blogs and how we handled them.


These are personality based blogs with real people behind them.

http://www.my-sex-life.com/blogs/feed/?id=555555
http://www.wackmymeat.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.realtampaswingers.com/blo...rss2&id=555555
http://www.watchourwives.com/blogs/feed/?id=555555
http://www.sweetcumgirl.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.sweetcamgirl.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.wam-girls.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555

These are blogs where there is NOT someone real behind them. We try to do the best we can for the surfer without sounding to "dry"

http://www.fuckmegrandpa.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.petiteblondewife.com/blog...rss2&id=555555
http://www.ilovesmalltits.com/blogs/...rss2&id=555555
http://www.hotbitchhigh.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555
http://www.pureabuse.com/blogs/?feed=rss2&id=555555

Since you asked....Lets look at the first post in the My Sex Life feed.

I'd probably title it Dinner with Dessert.

I'd pick a picture showing more of the sexy lingerie on. The picture you used is hot but I'd make the surfer click a link to see something like that.

For the text something along the lines of:

You've had a hard day at the office. I want to give you something special.

A little candlelight, some nice wine and a nice juicy steak. Let me wait on you while you enjoy yourself.

Do you like the lingerie I picked just for you? After you finish, I want to do strip out of these for you and let you devour me for dessert.

Now I know I suck when trying to write in a female voice so I hope you get the drift of where I was trying to go.

[Special "Ed"]

Lori writes all her own. I think she does a pretty good job. She's not saying "join" on every post. But I do think that she's posted something along the lines of what you're talking about here already. I understand about the "teasing" photo, maybe this one would've been a better choice eh? She's got her work cut out for her that's for sure!

[walrus]

Originally Posted by Special "Ed"

Lori writes all her own. I think she does a pretty good job. She's not saying "join" on every post. But I do think that she's posted something along the lines of what you're talking about here already. I understand about the "teasing" photo, maybe this one would've been a better choice eh? She's got her work cut out for her that's for sure!

It's not that the post is bad. Just my opinion on what might have made it a little better and to kind of highlight what I was saying in the previous post.

I like the pic.

[Lori_Anderson]

Thanks for the comment Walrus.. I do all the writing and picking out my pictures myself for all my blogs... I will remember what you said on picking out pics and writing good keywords before I publish them thx for your input...

[tigermom]

Good thread. I agree with what has been said. I think us porn webmasters may be over exposed to porn though, to judge what pleases the average user. Sure, I like the personal blogs, the one that are actually interesting, and would skip a splog in a second. I have one like that for fun, as a hobby, and it doesn't make any money either (hence why I'm taking long breaks every now and again, when pressed for work).

I do splogs, pretty much like T Pat outlined there. Here's the interesting thing though, when I show them to guys in chat rooms (not spamming, just chatting to horny blokes in the background and asking for opinions), they love the splogs as much as anything. They thing it's hot to have blogs with short posts, teasing text and pics. They may or may not buy, but they actually return to these blogs to see what's new. See, many of them still appreciate a constant stream of pictures with some story/text, something which they can't find elsewhere but on your blog. If you hit their niche and bring them the right kind of sexy text, they'll think your blog is fantastic, sploggy as it may be.

[hony]

Having a real person write a blog is always going to give better personality, but that doesn't mean it has to be yourself. If you have/want more blogs than you can write then you can hire writers. But what I'm find is that the NON-professional writers produce the best blogs, in terms of being interesting and full of personality.

The people who write for a living tend to turn out things that look like newspaper reports.

There is a problem with hiring writers though, this has happened to me twice already: I hire someone with a good personality and some writing skills (once was a gay guy, another was a camgirl) -- they write interesting blogs, it goes great -- the traffic boomed, the comments flowed. But then they get tired of it and leave. And the thing is I can't really replace it -- I've tried hiring other people to continue but just doesn't work, they can't match the style.