Is it me or does TGP traffic suck?

mariah · 2004-05-22, 11:44 AM

I have 2 listings on the hun, several on thumbzilla and other big tgps sites, and yes, I get pounded with traffic but it converts like shit.

I do better than 1 in 100 from every other traffic source so I know it isn't that the site is terrible.

I even stopped using galleries to promote my own site and have galleries now only promoting maxcahs sites, barely legal, iteens, ARS sites and still the same #'s.

Is this a HUGE waste of time? I know tgp surfers are the cheap fucks online looking for free peeks, but is the # of them without credit cards or the willingness to use them multiplying like fucking crazy or what?

Thanks for any feed back or answers to my issues

Cleo · 2004-05-22, 11:48 AM

Yes TGP traffic sucks.

I find myself doing less and less of it each month.

kristian · 2004-05-22, 12:34 PM

Traffic is traffic. It's what you offer and how you offer it that makes a difference. The same surfers who use search engines also use tgps; you just have to wade through more shit to find them. Over the past six months I've averaged 1:179 with tgp traffic. You either have to figure out how to make it work for you, or how to make it work again for you.

Opti · 2004-05-22, 12:49 PM

I don't think TGP surfers are always "cheap" or non-buyers... I think they buy less often mostly because of the way the content is presented.

Also, for any TGP or links style site... the easier it is to surf, the lower the $$ return per listed gallery/site will always be. A clean site will find it easier to send more traffic volume to offset this of course.

1:100 (or at least good $ returns per gallery) might be achievable from the primo TGP spots.... But regular submitters can't really expect to see great ratios selling the same ARS site a surfer has seen on 5 other galleries before seeing yours... no matter how good your sites are or how many clicks they attract... the top listed sites will still get the majority of all the sales per day.

I imagine the biggest reason for diminishing returns is more people working TGPs than ever before... and more TGPs having hosted galleries and private deals filling all of their most productive link positions.

Lunatic · 2004-05-22, 03:17 PM

I've found the quality of TGP traffic varies. For me, traffic from indexed and even searchable TGP's converts better than when all the categories are mixed together in a big list.
|pcwins|

stuveltje · 2004-05-22, 05:25 PM

I think it all depends on what your promoting at your galleries, have something they have never seen will convert better then something they see all day. i had last week 3 galleries at the hun they did good but i dont promoot the normal niches.

Lunatic · 2004-05-22, 05:39 PM

I agree. Tight niches like shemales, hairy, etc. convert alot better at any of the TGP's including the Hun or similar ones.

kristian · 2004-05-22, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Lunatic
I agree. Tight niches like shemales, hairy, etc. convert alot better at any of the TGP's including the Hun or similar ones.

Funny you should mention shemales. I get about 200 shemale galleries a day. Quite a few hairy as well. Scary a fuck!!

It doesn't matter what niche you push though. It's how you package the niche and how you sell it.

Cleo · 2004-05-22, 06:35 PM

I don't get a lot of hairy shemales, but I do get a lot of the shaven ones.

I'm am drowning in mature versus young and pantyhose.

KCat · 2004-05-22, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Cleo
I'm am drowning in mature versus young and pantyhose.

That's interesting. I wonder if LL & TGP owners can shift the tide of submissions by posting a few "Busty Asians Convert Best!" threads.

kristian · 2004-05-22, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Cleo
I don't get a lot of hairy shemales, but I do get a lot of the shaven ones.

I'm am drowning in mature versus young and pantyhose.

LOL Thing is, it's even worse reviewing this shit when you're a guy. I'm looking at chicks with baby arms clutching ripe apples all day. I don't care who you are, that totally screws your ego. I keep telling myself, well it's only the first 4 inches inside that are supposed to be sensitive...then I get worried wondering how the fuck I'm gonna get those last 2 inches |conehead|

stuveltje · 2004-05-23, 08:57 AM

Yep mature and guy in pantyhose i see most of the days submitted at my lls, where are the babes, the asians, ebony etc etc.

kristian · 2004-05-23, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by stuveltje
Yep mature and guy in pantyhose i see most of the days submitted at my lls, where are the babes, the asians, ebony etc etc.

asians . . . humana humana sexiest women on earth

Cleo · 2004-05-23, 09:08 AM

A long time friend of mine who happens to be a shemale bought a house just 3 miles north of where I live so now after a long day of building web sites and reviewing nasty galleries I can go relax at her pool and interact with a whole herd of trannies.

What is normal… Anyone who is decent to hang out with and is a nice person, but I still have a hard time getting use to see a beautiful woman in a bikini who's bottom half has a large package that keeps on popping out of her bikini.

Cams are being installed in her house and affiliate program is forth coming.

kristian · 2004-05-23, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
A long time friend of mine who happens to be a shemale bought a house just 3 miles north of where I live so now after a long day of building web sites and reviewing nasty galleries I can go relax at her pool and interact with a whole herd of trannies.

What is normal… Anyone who is decent to hang out with and is a nice person, but I still have a hard time getting use to see a beautiful woman in a bikini who's bottom half has a large package that keeps on popping out of her bikini.

Cams are being installed in her house and affiliate program is forth coming.

You're the only webmaster I know who's life offline is crazier than on! LOL No offence, I've just never been to a shemale pool party before

FYI...these are available :

www.cleostrannys.com
www.cleoknowsachickwithadick.com
www.cleosshemales.com
and my personals favorite,
www.cleosfriend.tv

Cleo · 2004-05-23, 09:28 AM

How about just www.foxyangel.com Don't join the affiliate program that is there now as something better will be online in a few weeks.

kristian · 2004-05-23, 09:42 AM

WTF! I thought you were kidding about the aff! She's hotttttttttttt. God does that mean I'm gay? Bi? I wouldn't suck her dick, but no tellin what I else I might do

Let us know when the aff proggy is ready. I like the personal sites, they always convert best.

Cleo · 2004-05-23, 09:47 AM

I would do her, but after all these years she still says that she doesn't like fish.

Luna is going to start doing her web work and Urb is designing a new tour for her. I'm going biking this afternoon so maybe I'll bike over to her place and shoot some teaser pics…

kristian · 2004-05-23, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by Cleo
I would do her

I'm just adding that picture to the active desktop in my brain . . .

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
maybe I'll bike over to her place and shoot some teaser pics…

Tell her Kristian says hi and that he'll send 100 signups a week if she gets it on with you and Luna! . . . and it's properly documented of course!

I;ve got to get some new friends. All your friends are hot...well, except urb

SomeCreep · 2004-05-23, 03:44 PM

TGP traffic sucks if you're using oversaturated sponsors.

mariah · 2004-05-23, 03:59 PM

I don't use their galleries at all. I use my own content or bought content from people whom I know don't sell much of. I just use their banners or my own text links.

I am not using saturated content at all.

I am converting hun traffic to barely legal at 1 in 900 which isn't bad but it was 1 in 30,000 until i got a flurry of joins last night and this morning.

Thanks for the feedback and I am planning on making some niche galleries.

again, thanks

http://mariahxxx.net

MARIAH

kristian · 2004-05-23, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep
TGP traffic sucks if you're using oversaturated sponsors.

what like nasty dollars?

kristian · 2004-05-23, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mariah
I don't use their galleries at all. I use my own content or bought content from people whom I know don't sell much of. I just use their banners or my own text links.

I am not using saturated content at all.

I am converting hun traffic to barely legal at 1 in 900 which isn't bad but it was 1 in 30,000 until i got a flurry of joins last night and this morning.

Thanks for the feedback and I am planning on making some niche galleries.

again, thanks

http://mariahxxx.net

MARIAH

I notice you got some good advice on gfy with this question as well. Yeah niche galleries are good

Surfn · 2004-05-23, 05:35 PM

Yes, they suk. Leave them for me.

Ramster · 2004-05-23, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mariah
I have 2 listings on the hun, several on thumbzilla and other big tgps sites, and yes, I get pounded with traffic but it converts like shit.

I do better than 1 in 100 from every other traffic source so I know it isn't that the site is terrible.

I even stopped using galleries to promote my own site and have galleries now only promoting maxcahs sites, barely legal, iteens, ARS sites and still the same #'s.

Is this a HUGE waste of time? I know tgp surfers are the cheap fucks online looking for free peeks, but is the # of them without credit cards or the willingness to use them multiplying like fucking crazy or what?

Thanks for any feed back or answers to my issues

1 in 100? Good results. But in almost all cases you will see close to 10x the short term traffic to your galleries then you will to your free sites. If you have the server/bw you should be able to see good results without it costing you much more.

If you submit to a large number of tgps, say 50 using a mix of big and medium sites plus the niche sites too which is important I'd bet if you made 30 galleries and you made 30 free sites they would be failrly close in sales with TGP sales being higher but using more bandwidth. Of course the ratios wouldn't even be close but isn't making money the bottom line and not ratios?

Of course there are so many variables nowadays with TGPs too on saturation of the paysite you promote and the gallery design.

2004-05-22, 11:44 AM	#1
mariah Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 155	Is it me or does TGP traffic suck? I have 2 listings on the hun, several on thumbzilla and other big tgps sites, and yes, I get pounded with traffic but it converts like shit. I do better than 1 in 100 from every other traffic source so I know it isn't that the site is terrible. I even stopped using galleries to promote my own site and have galleries now only promoting maxcahs sites, barely legal, iteens, ARS sites and still the same #'s. Is this a HUGE waste of time? I know tgp surfers are the cheap fucks online looking for free peeks, but is the # of them without credit cards or the willingness to use them multiplying like fucking crazy or what? Thanks for any feed back or answers to my issues __________________ 100% PornStar Owned & Operated-60% Recurring & 10% Referral!

2004-05-22, 11:48 AM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Yes TGP traffic sucks. I find myself doing less and less of it each month. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-22, 12:34 PM	#3
kristian Porn Movie Peddler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malta (France In Nov) Posts: 1,631	Traffic is traffic. It's what you offer and how you offer it that makes a difference. The same surfers who use search engines also use tgps; you just have to wade through more shit to find them. Over the past six months I've averaged 1:179 with tgp traffic. You either have to figure out how to make it work for you, or how to make it work again for you. __________________ Promote Dating \| Popular Post : Get Free Dating Traffic - 5 Tips

2004-05-22, 03:17 PM	#5
Lunatic Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 200	Depends on type of TGP too I've found the quality of TGP traffic varies. For me, traffic from indexed and even searchable TGP's converts better than when all the categories are mixed together in a big list. \|pcwins\|

2004-05-22, 05:25 PM	#6
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	I think it all depends on what your promoting at your galleries, have something they have never seen will convert better then something they see all day. i had last week 3 galleries at the hun they did good but i dont promoot the normal niches. __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2004-05-22, 12:49 PM	#4
Opti I Didn't Do It Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: au Posts: 795	I don't think TGP surfers are always "cheap" or non-buyers... I think they buy less often mostly because of the way the content is presented. Also, for any TGP or links style site... the easier it is to surf, the lower the $$ return per listed gallery/site will always be. A clean site will find it easier to send more traffic volume to offset this of course. 1:100 (or at least good $ returns per gallery) might be achievable from the primo TGP spots.... But regular submitters can't really expect to see great ratios selling the same ARS site a surfer has seen on 5 other galleries before seeing yours... no matter how good your sites are or how many clicks they attract... the top listed sites will still get the majority of all the sales per day. I imagine the biggest reason for diminishing returns is more people working TGPs than ever before... and more TGPs having hosted galleries and private deals filling all of their most productive link positions.

2004-05-22, 05:39 PM	#7
Lunatic Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 200	I agree. Tight niches like shemales, hairy, etc. convert alot better at any of the TGP's including the Hun or similar ones.

2004-05-22, 06:35 PM	#9
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I don't get a lot of hairy shemales, but I do get a lot of the shaven ones. I'm am drowning in mature versus young and pantyhose. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-23, 08:57 AM	#12
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	Yep mature and guy in pantyhose i see most of the days submitted at my lls, where are the babes, the asians, ebony etc etc. __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2004-05-23, 09:08 AM	#14
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	A long time friend of mine who happens to be a shemale bought a house just 3 miles north of where I live so now after a long day of building web sites and reviewing nasty galleries I can go relax at her pool and interact with a whole herd of trannies. What is normal… Anyone who is decent to hang out with and is a nice person, but I still have a hard time getting use to see a beautiful woman in a bikini who's bottom half has a large package that keeps on popping out of her bikini. Cams are being installed in her house and affiliate program is forth coming. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-23, 09:28 AM	#16
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	How about just www.foxyangel.com Don't join the affiliate program that is there now as something better will be online in a few weeks. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-23, 09:42 AM	#17
kristian Porn Movie Peddler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malta (France In Nov) Posts: 1,631	WTF! I thought you were kidding about the aff! She's hotttttttttttt. God does that mean I'm gay? Bi? I wouldn't suck her dick, but no tellin what I else I might do Let us know when the aff proggy is ready. I like the personal sites, they always convert best. __________________ Promote Dating \| Popular Post : Get Free Dating Traffic - 5 Tips

2004-05-23, 09:47 AM	#18
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I would do her, but after all these years she still says that she doesn't like fish. Luna is going to start doing her web work and Urb is designing a new tour for her. I'm going biking this afternoon so maybe I'll bike over to her place and shoot some teaser pics… __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-23, 03:44 PM	#20
SomeCreep Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 139	TGP traffic sucks if you're using oversaturated sponsors. __________________ Are you promoting <a href="http://www.realitycash.com/track/MjM1MDoxNDo4/"> Reality Cash</a> yet? They convert very well.

2004-05-23, 03:59 PM	#21
mariah Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 155	Just to be clear.... I don't use their galleries at all. I use my own content or bought content from people whom I know don't sell much of. I just use their banners or my own text links. I am not using saturated content at all. I am converting hun traffic to barely legal at 1 in 900 which isn't bad but it was 1 in 30,000 until i got a flurry of joins last night and this morning. Thanks for the feedback and I am planning on making some niche galleries. again, thanks http://mariahxxx.net MARIAH __________________ 100% PornStar Owned & Operated-60% Recurring & 10% Referral!

2004-05-23, 05:35 PM	#24
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Yes, they suk. Leave them for me.