Tommy(tommys-bookmarks.com)!! Did you cheat me?

[pornrex]

Originally Posted by Linkster

I agree with you proofhouse - and especially in the case of this type of injustice where a slime ball WM tries to cheat a well known respected WM like Tommy - I think it should be posted everywhere to show the injustice that some cheaters try to bring to the biz

Amen to that Linkster

[Boogie]

My favorite part is how this guy keeps trying to manipulate us into thinking tommy's an idiot or something and was wrong.

I mean lets face facts. Tommys been in this game a long fucking time and if he thinks you're a cheater, if he thinks you dont deserve an affiliate account... you dont.

Tommy is the guy with nine million partner accounts, seventy bazillion hits a day, and has made us all quite a chunk of change.

then you've got this guy with his accusations and broken english.

you'd have to have a lot more than just a random "oh snap you keeps my money i am full of sad" line to convince just about anyone here.

[Theproofhouse]

Originally Posted by Boogie

My favorite part is how this guy keeps trying to manipulate us into thinking tommy's an idiot or something and was wrong.

I mean lets face facts. Tommys been in this game a long fucking time and if he thinks you're a cheater, if he thinks you dont deserve an affiliate account... you dont.

Tommy is the guy with nine million partner accounts, seventy bazillion hits a day, and has made us all quite a chunk of change.

then you've got this guy with his accusations and broken english.

you'd have to have a lot more than just a random "oh snap you keeps my money i am full of sad" line to convince just about anyone here.

I'd like to know what he did, apart from making two applications for an account at Tommys. Maybe Tommy can tell us.

"Accusations in broken english"

Well if you were in the middle of Moscow, could you speak perfect Russian?

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Theproofhouse

I'd like to know what he did, apart from making two applications for an account at Tommys. Maybe Tommy can tell us.

"Accusations in broken english"

Well if you were in the middle of Moscow, could you speak perfect Russian?

The fact remains that Tommy refused this guy an account and refunded the first $50. Now any reasonably intelligent person wouldn't submit again for an account...especially only 1 week after the first rejection.

You seem to criticize Tommy's actions, but why don't you criticize the actions of a person that purposely tried to get an account after he knew the first time he would be rejected.

If every person that Tommy rejected just kept on resubmitting and getting a refund, how would that effect his business model? Maybe he would just stop offering new partner accounts and go with the stable of partners he already has...now should 1 person that tried to cheat the system ruin it for all the other webmasters that want an account at Tommy's?

Tommy's always been an upstanding webmaster...when people ask me what partner accounts they should buy I always say buy one at Tommy's. He's always dealt straight with people just as he dealt straight with this guy. Abuse the system though, get punished, deal with it.

[Theproofhouse]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

The fact remains that Tommy refused this guy an account and refunded the first $50. Now any reasonably intelligent person wouldn't submit again for an account...especially only 1 week after the first rejection.

You seem to criticize Tommy's actions, but why don't you criticize the actions of a person that purposely tried to get an account after he knew the first time he would be rejected.

If every person that Tommy rejected just kept on resubmitting and getting a refund, how would that effect his business model? Maybe he would just stop offering new partner accounts and go with the stable of partners he already has...now should 1 person that tried to cheat the system ruin it for all the other webmasters that want an account at Tommy's?

Tommy's always been an upstanding webmaster...when people ask me what partner accounts they should buy I always say buy one at Tommy's. He's always dealt straight with people just as he dealt straight with this guy. Abuse the system though, get punished, deal with it.

Hmmm, Tommy was ok till he started charging $100 to list your work

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Theproofhouse

Hmmm, Tommy was ok till he started charging $100 to list your work

Are you Confucy's brother? She always was in search of a conspiracy. Pardon me Im new here and not very frequent. What is it you do in the business again?

I know Tommy.

[Theproofhouse]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Are you Confucy's brother? She always was in search of a conspiracy. Pardon me Im new here and not very frequent. What is it you do in the business again?

I know Tommy.

And who rattled your cage?
I know the Queen Of Fucking England
Get the fuck

[Toby]

|duff|

[Prawnie]

Tommy has always been good to me. He even went out his way to do an alternative method of payment for me when I applied.

Whatever Tommys reasons for rejecting this guy is, he has done the right thing and kept it between the two parties concerned. He hasn't, even after being referred to as "a cheat" disclosed any infomation as to the reason for the rejection.

Apply once.. you get rejected. Apply twice and do the same thing is asking for trouble. For too long, cheaters (and this does not apply to anyone particular) have made our jobs that little bit harder. An inconvenience is an understatment. |shocking|

For $50 Tommys partner account was a steal. For $100 its still a fantastic offer.

For once its nice to see an owner bite back and actually get one over a cheater.
This should be standard for all TGP's.
Its like any business deal.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Theproofhouse

Hmmm, Tommy was ok till he started charging $100 to list your work

You're obviously too obtuse to understand the fact that Tommy did give a refund the first time. The person should have never applied a second time as he knew what the results would be. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp.

Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion, but don't be surprised if people think you're a dink for it. I personally think you're a little drama queen who feeds on this type of attention.

[Theproofhouse]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

You're obviously too obtuse to understand the fact that Tommy did give a refund the first time. The person should have never applied a second time as he knew what the results would be. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp.

Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion, but don't be surprised if people think you're a dink for it. I personally think you're a little drama queen who feeds on this type of attention.

Mr Blues,
I know all about the 50 dollars he sent the "first time". Please don't patronise me.
He sent further money,100 dollars, rightly or wrongly. The other party has decided to keep it.
To me, it sounds like the guy has been screwed. And he would like his money back.
$100 Dollars is $100 Dollars. Simple.

[Jel]

Surely you can see that after the second $100 was refunded, there would have been a third payment, after that was refunded, a fourth, and so on? Time = money, and this guy would be taking up Tommy's time with the continual back-and-forth of money for an account he isn't going to get.

Don't forget, he failed Tommy's cheater test. Now, Tommy could probably have cheated him right back and just made sure none of the guy's work was listed. Nope, he took the time to reund the guy. and tell him he was not going to get an account. Anyone who has dealt with Tommy would not be surprised by that. Why the hell would the guy then send another request a week later, and not mention he already got declined? Only one possible reason he would do so - to try and catch Tommy unawares and hope he'd forgotten about the first instance.

To me, it sounds like he done that wrongly. To me, it sounds like he was trying to screw Tommy.

No doubt he would like his money back. No doubt Tommy wanted this guy to stop sending him money and trying to screw him. No doubt this guy will send another $100 from another alias.

I applaud the people who screw the screwers.

[GunnCat]

Originally Posted by Theproofhouse

Mr Blues,
I know all about the 50 dollars he sent the "first time". Please don't patronise me.
He sent further money,100 dollars, rightly or wrongly. The other party has decided to keep it.
To me, it sounds like the guy has been screwed. And he would like his money back.
$100 Dollars is $100 Dollars. Simple.

$100 is nothing compared to bashing someones reputation without merit, the way this thread started off. I am inclined to believe someone who has a great reputation and has been around for a long time versus someone who comes here starting a thread named:
Tommy(tommys-bookmarks.com)!! Did you cheat me?
Honestly when I first saw the thread I thought it was some joke.
Point is, we know Tommy, we have made money with Tommy we trust Tommy. Ultimately if he decides to refund the guy is comletely up to him.
I don't think arguing with the community is going to help the guy with his case, just likely to have more people come stand by Tommy.

Hmmm, Tommy was ok till he started charging $100 to list your work

Tommy charges $50 for a lifetime membership for subs, 5 galleries/links per day.

These are some of the going prices of other sites:
Jizzhut: Monthly Submit Pass: $59usd
Timsmovies: Monthly Submit Pass: $25usd
Richard's Realm: Monthly Submit Pass: $35usd
Video Post: Montly Submit Pass: $39usd
FreeFuckingMovies: Monthly Submit Pass: $39usd
XNXX: $75/month to submit 1 gallery per day
$99/month to submit 2 galleries per day
$149/month to submit 4 galleries per day
ChubbyLand: Montly Submit Pass: $60usd
MaturePost: Montly Submit Pass: $39usd
PinkWorld: Monthly Submit Pass: $49usd
Elephant's List: Monthly Submit Pass: $59usd
TS List: Montly Submit Pass: $60usd
AL4A/WS: Monthly pass: $85usd
Easypic: 6 Months 10 submissions a day $100

I don't mean to sound insulting, but to make statements like that makes me believe that you don't understand the nuances of this business nor the trends that make this a business, not a playground.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Theproofhouse

To me, it sounds like the guy has been screwed. And he would like his money back.
$100 Dollars is $100 Dollars. Simple.

Let me ask you a question:

If the guy didn't submit a second time, would he have lost his money? That's the point really. The man gambled and lost...The wager was $100...The bet was if he could fool Tommy...the result...he lost.

Next time you go to Vegas or Atlantic City, place a wager, lose, and then ask the house to return your bet. It is the same thing...no different...well, one difference, in Vegas no one would feel the urge to support his lunacy...that is, unless you were there

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Theproofhouse

And who rattled your cage?
I know the Queen Of Fucking England
Get the fuck

Good maybe she will give you a cookie so you can shut the fuck up. Im big enough to rattle my own cage.

[Tommy]

I think they just want the reason they got denied

so next time they wont make the same mistake again

all the rest of it is just bullshit

[GunnCat]

Tommy, you been fishing yet this summer?

[sue-fl]

Well this sure has been a very intresting thread. I knew that Tommy must send a lot of traffic has he seems to be very respected. Even a newbie (like myself) would pick up on that soon enough. But I had no real idea on just how good it would be to be able to submit at Tommys. Well thanks to some idiot who decided to be really rude. I have learned that I would like to apply there. I had no idea how much traffic he sends, but do now. So this thread turned out to be a bad thing for the person who started it. But maybe a good thing for me......

[Jel]

Hiya Sue
If you go for a pass with Tommy, it will definitely be a good thing for you

[Tommy]

Hi Gunn
no Fishing this year, I know ......


sue-fl.. I am sure you will be happy :-)

[sue-fl]

Thanks Jel and Tommy! I'm hoping my free sites are good enough. The thought of a test is a bit scary! I consider myself an honest WM but haven't taken a test in about 20 years......yikes!!

[Prawnie]

Originally Posted by sue-fl

Thanks Jel and Tommy! I'm hoping my free sites are good enough. The thought of a test is a bit scary! I consider myself an honest WM but haven't taken a test in about 20 years......yikes!!

Sue.. you have nothing to worry about. Tommy is fair. Its only cheaters that need worry

[Tommy]

Sue.... your all setup :-)

[Chop Smith]

That has be record speed to prove everyone is not a cheat. Money well spend, Sue.

[sue-fl]

Originally Posted by Tommy

Sue.... your all setup :-)

Thanks so much Tommy!

Heck ya Chop Smith, that was the fastest approval I've ever gotten for a partner account.

Some great people at this board, when it comes to helping a newbie out..